Is a super sayian caused by Genetics and emotions ?

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I had a theroy that all super sayians have a gene that is passed down to there children. For Example Bardock to Goku to Gohan and Goten this also applies to Vegeta and Trunks. Even though Bardock wasn't a super sayian when he had Goku, the gene could be there but he couldn't unlock it because he didn't have the need to unlock it as Goku states in the hyperbolic time chamber.

I personally belive it's a mixture of both the Emotional need and the genes

what do you think?

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Its a break in the gene. Most peple are too lazy to relies this but if you push yourself hard enough you can break the limits of your genetics. Example being born with skinny calves, and having a predisposition towards it. Most lazy F. would say that hey that's genetics. Hard willed person like Arnold S. would push to their limits until their calves develope.

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#3  Edited By TheComicPro
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Emotion. When Goku is teaching Gohan to become a super sayian he tells him to use his emotions to transform not push him self

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#4  Edited By Fallschirmjager

bardock's parents were SS

neither was King Vegeta

neither were Broly parents.

it can't be genetic. evolution doesn't happen in 1 generation.

its emotion. the reason its rare is because the saiyans were/are an inherently shallow race. they fought and they f**cked. that's about it.

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it's mostly emotion given that it requires an extreme emotion to unlock it and on small account genes because trunks and goten were able to access SSJ forms easily. note that goku was born before bardock achieved SSJ form and gohan was born before goku reached SSJ form. the only chink in this theory is that it doesn't account on is whether trunks was conceived before or after vegeta achieved SSJ form and future trunks had difficulty reaching his SSJ form.

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#6  Edited By Chibi_cute

its caused by plot.

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#7 juiceboks  Moderator

its caused by plot.

Pretty much. Goten and Trunks can/have powered up on a dime without much emotion in it.

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#8  Edited By Chibi_cute

@chibi_cute said:

its caused by plot.

Pretty much. Goten and Trunks can/have powered up on a dime without much emotion in it.

Back in the day when having a super saiyan status was legendary..

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@juiceboks said:

@chibi_cute said:

its caused by plot.

Pretty much. Goten and Trunks can/have powered up on a dime without much emotion in it.

Back in the day when having a super saiyan status was legendary..

At that point I wouldn't have been surprised if they made Krillin go Super Saiyan..

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bardock's parents were SS

neither was King Vegeta

neither were Broly parents.

it can't be genetic. evolution doesn't happen in 1 generation.

its emotion. the reason its rare is because the saiyans were/are an inherently shallow race. they fought and they f**cked. that's about it.

Of course its genetic. They had legends of Super Sayains before Goku which means they had the possibility to transform before him. Just because these people didn't become super sayains doesn't mean they didn't have the genetic code for it, it means they just weren't able to realize their full potential. Not to mention its implied ALL sayains have the potential to become super sayains, meaning its a genetic trait of the species.

its caused by plot.

Also this.

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#11  Edited By Chibi_cute

@chibi_cute said:

@juiceboks said:

@chibi_cute said:

its caused by plot.

Pretty much. Goten and Trunks can/have powered up on a dime without much emotion in it.

Back in the day when having a super saiyan status was legendary..

At that point I wouldn't have been surprised if they made Krillin go Super Saiyan..

LOL nobody would have noticed.. since the guy is bald. except for the golden aura

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The Super Saiyan transformation became obsolete unless it was a fusion transformation and even then Gotenks became fodder too.Only SSJ Vegito was relevant as a SSJ and it was to witness a humiliation of the most powerful DBZ Villian(not counting BoG)

Also as said emotion,drive,and plot

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No genetics, if it was genetics, Goku shouldn't be able to. His father was the lowest level foot solider.

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No genetics, if it was genetics, Goku shouldn't be able to. His father was the lowest level foot solider.

That's not how genetics work.

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they fought and they f**cked. that's about it.

If that's not the most beautiful explanation of the Saiyans, I'm not sure what is xD

But, yeah, tremendous emotional upheaval combined with enough power to actually make the jump. The reason Gohan transformed so early is that his Super Saiyan father trained him (and he had serious potential lawlz). Same reason why Trunks transformed so early. Goten though....it was kinda random.

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@mchotcakes: Elaborate.

It is implied that the entire race of sayains has the ability to transform into a super sayain. Meaning that there is a genetic trait in the entire race that gives them the power to transform. Just because one sayain doesn't become a super sayain doesn't mean that the gene to become a super sayain wouldn't be passed down to his children.

The best real world example I can think of right now would be baldness. Your dad could have a full head of hair and his dad could have a full head of hair but you could just as easily go bald. Now just because your family traditional doesn't go bald doesn't mean they didn't have the possibility to go bald in their genes. The fact that it manifests itself at some point shows that the potential was always there it just wasn't dominate in your family's specific genetic code.

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@superguy1591: go watch "An episode of Bardock" he became a Super Sayian.

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I always assumed it was emotional. But I think a child from a saiyan that has already ascended will have a easier time transforming

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@superguy1591 said:

@mchotcakes: Elaborate.

It is implied that the entire race of sayains has the ability to transform into a super sayain. Meaning that there is a genetic trait in the entire race that gives them the power to transform. Just because one sayain doesn't become a super sayain doesn't mean that the gene to become a super sayain wouldn't be passed down to his children.

The best real world example I can think of right now would be baldness. Your dad could have a full head of hair and his dad could have a full head of hair but you could just as easily go bald. Now just because your family traditional doesn't go bald doesn't mean they didn't have the possibility to go bald in their genes. The fact that it manifests itself at some point shows that the potential was always there it just wasn't dominate in your family's specific genetic code.

I hate how everyone on Comicvine is like a f*cking scientist.

It makes me feel dumb lol

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#23  Edited By Hyperlight

the power to become a super saiyan is in every saiyan but a lot of them didnt know and/or didnt have the emotion to make that jump.. goku and company did. there is probably a little more to it but i dont feel like typing it

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it is mainly training and emotions but genetics helps a lot like gotten and trunks was all genetics

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More of an emotion. Its when you snap, and at your most vulnerable it comes to life.

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@superguy1591: Bardock did go Super Saiyan. It might have been non canon though. Can't remember

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Plot Powers.

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@thevivas: non canon fan service crap that can't be canon to the manga

Anyways goten and trunks most likely got their ssj forms from genetics

Goten was conceived after goku became an ssj

Trunks was conceived possibly after vegeta became one (we don't know exactly when he unlocked ssj just that it was unlocked during the. 3 years)

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@dbzk1999: I already said it's probably non canon.

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@thevivas: yeah like I didn't see that

I only confirmed it

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@dbzk1999: Fact remains, Bardock went Siper Saiyan.

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Both. It has to be genetics because you need to be a saiyan in order to SSJ. And every saiyan that went SSJ was pissed at the time of their transformation. And I am pretty sure that Akira siad that Bardock was a cannon character. So him going SSJ would be cannon.

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@cptmerc: The character is canon, the movie was not.

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@superguy1591: Didnt Akira say Bardock was a cannon character in an interview. The first time the name Bardock was ever said was in the Bardock movie. Never in the anime series are the manga. That should make the movie cannon.

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@cptmerc: yeah he said bardock the father of goku was canon this was WAY before episode of bardock came out

EoB can't be canon because of the way time travel works in dbz

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@dbzk1999: You are right. What I meant to say that the first Bardock movie would be cannon.

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