In what other franchises can the Scrin become a faction?

I've been thinking about this for a while now, and that is what other sci-fi franchises can the Scrin become a faction without lolstomping everyone or getting stomped by even the weakest faction?

If you don't know who the Scrin are they are a faction from the RTS franchise Command and Conquer, they are an alien species who where responsible for seeding the Earth with Tiberium in the first place.

They where first hinted at in Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun and finally made their official appearance in Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars as a playable faction.

From their appearance they are kind of like the Eldar from WH40K, Arachnids from Starship Troopers, Protoss from StarCraft and Geth from Mass Effect all rolled into one alien species.

One interesting thing to point out is the forces we saw in Tiberium Wars wasn't a real invasion force but a farming force coming to Earth to harvest the Tiberium as they use Tiberium as something like food source and other things.

Here are some videos to gain some knowledge on what the Scrin farming force is like:

And here is some of here background:

And apparently it looks like the Scrin control more than one Galaxy:

Traveler-59 - Origins

Background on the Scrin Traveler Sect

If Reaper-17 embody the darkest impulses of the Scrin, the benignly named Traveler sect represent something more insidious. Trained from birth in the art of subterfuge, Traveler cells specialise in nothing less than the infiltration, destabilisation and eventual enslavement of entire rival species. The centuries and milleniums of conquests, harvests and seizures of countless galaxies and planets can be the proof of their deeds .Where the Cult of Reaper seek to dominate through brute force, making bloody examples of those who oppose them, Traveler instead attempt to draw as little attention to themselves as possible. Traveler pods will blink- teleport into hostile territory and deploy Prodigy units - Tiberium-mutated Masterminds with significantly enhanced mental faculties - bringing the entire population under Scrin control within days.

Traveler-59 is the most recent cell raised to full active duty, and has yet to be verified as combat-ready on the battlefield. Recently attached to the Scrin mining fleet on the far side of Pluto, the cell has activated far-reaching scanning technology to locate its first host planet. In addition, the cell has been outfitted with a new, more efficient form of enslavement - twisted offspring of the Prodigy capable of being implanted directly into the cerebral cortex of an abducted life form. The victims gain limited mind control abilities ... at the cost of complete subservience.

The Earth shall be their proving ground ...

Here is some more:

So what sci-fi franchises do you think the Scrin would work well in as a faction other than C&C? and how would they react to the factions of those other franchises and what would the factions think of the Scrin?

they would fare well on the starcraft universe.

@killerwasp@wut@conduitreaper@aressword@tularianroman

Opinions?

@kyrees said:

What do you think they would think of the StarCraft factions (i.e. Terrans, Zerg & Protos)? and what would the factions think of the Scrin?

zerg = a potential gene pool enhancer or a resource hog

terrans = same with how they look with the zerg

protoss = impurities that need to be removed.

scrin = everyone is an enemy, tiberium must be harvested.

the fallen one faction = just another agent that can be killed later.

^ again starcraft, Star wars they'd be interesting in, and possibly 40k.

They could do well in any universe, as long as they are written well.

@aressword: @killerwasp: Yea I was thinking Star Wars as well as Star Trek & WH40K.

I would love to see how the Jedi & Sith would react to the Scrin and I would love to see the Yuuzhan Vong and Scrin duke it out :)

@jwwprod: It'd be interesting that's for sure, but we will never know how strong the Scrin actual army is. XD

@killerwasp: I also wonder what the Scrin would think of the WH40K factions and what would they think of the Scrin.

Lord of the Rings.

@hatemalingsia said:

@jwwprod: world would never know XD

As an expert on RTS games, especially in Starcraft and Command and Conquer (I even played Sole Survivor).

I will provide more info on Scrin.

Pwprod just only posted the one section of the Scrin, while there are more sects within the Scrin empire. There are sects in the Scrin farmer force invasion on Earth: Reapers-17, Travelers-59, Messenger-8 (Primary Scrin force).

Reapers-17 is the most threatening cruel military force that the universe has even known, who was responsible for unspeakable atrocities across galaxies. They are also a bunch of "drug" addicts as well, I mean Tib-addicts. They practiced self-multilation and had a religious pastor about Tiberium. They infuse aka consume Tib everyday, so they are extremely violent and brutal (they are high).

Traveler-59 is just an ordinary force, not in military force. They focus more on defense, harvest, and domination. Just one Prodigy of them can control an entire civilization! Just imagine if you drop one Prodigy on the Terran Dominion, GG. (Because they do not have the awesome baldy prophet, Kane).

Messenger-8 is the primary force of the Scrin who sent to oversee the operation of harvesting and reaping Tiberiums on Earth...who controls and gives order to two both above factions.

Scrin can compare into War40k, if given more or larger background info (Command and Conquer 5, please Westwood comes back!) it can compare to Doctor Who.

@jwwprod: Starcraft is not instellar and weak to C&C verse (EA screwed up the franchise), War40k is the only faction that Scrin would love to join in.

@tularianroman said:

What about other sci-fi franchises like Star Wars, Star Trek, etc?

@jwwprod: Star Wars is weaker than Starcraft, because those Protoss had high psionic tech while some of the force in Star Wars is limited. Star Trek had some OP techs, but the Scrin can compete with them.

Tiberium after CnC 3 is overpowered to most known fictional universes except Phazon in Metroids, and I have tried to explain it to Killerwasp for days now. It is impossible to get into that guy's mind because he is lazy to look for his own evidences rather than someone else. I actually checked all Halo's stuffs and played all the installments except 4. You should probably avoid inviting him in C&C thread in the future, this guy is a rustler.

@tularianroman said:

Um?...... what? Star Wars is weaker than StarCraft? LOL!

But anyways I do agree with @killerwasp's posts about the Scrin being below the Forerunners from Halo, I do believe that the Scrin could potentially be above (Or at least on par with) the likes of the Borg, Imperium of Man, Galactic Empire, Protoss, Post-Fall Eldar, United Federation of Planets, etc.

However I doubt there above the likes of the Forerunners, Necrons, Pre-Fall Eldar, Xel'Naga, Culture, etc.

@jwwprod: Don't bother he literally wanks to C&C, and has zero knowledge about anything and everything im so done with him honestly.

@killerwasp: Everything I have posted to you is what I collected from play C&C!

I have played from Dune 2000 to even the disgrace C&C 4.

I played Halo Combat Evolved all the way to Halo 4.

What I am telling is true, believe me. Blame EA if you do not find any book detailed like Command and Conquer Primordium or any novel about it. Westwood and C&C studios are working solely on gameplay, while not wasting money on creating extra additional contents (a good developer does). So, everything is in-game data. So deal with it!

@jwwprod: You should check out this thread to change your mind.

Scrin really had some possibilities, and I am not exaggerating!

@tularianroman: Whatever man, what your telling is silly, and stop saying its true, because its not. I'm done with you.

@tularianroman said:

Yea I've seen that thread before and it was quite interesting though to be honest I don't really tend to listen to most of the stuff they say on Spacebattles, don't get me wrong it's a decent site but people their do talk nonsense sometimes, though then again we all talk some nonsense occasionally, hell even I occasionally talk some nonsense.

@jwwprod: I am not considering that spacebattle thread not to be an argument thread. Consider it more to a resourceful consideration.

Those contributors of that thread provided almost everything for you need to know about C&C. I am posting that thread, because I have actually clarified all of those things through my playing experience.

It is up to Killerwasp to believe that Scrin will stomp Haloverse or not, because the victor is not decided through a debate but the will of the developers.

For now, just consider with new resource that I have composed earlier in C&C vs Star Wars thread.

@aressword: @kyrees: @tularianroman: @hatemalingsia:

What about franchises like Transformers, Gundam, Supreme Commander & Babylon 5?

Would the Scrin be able to work well in those franchise if written and done well?

@jwwprod:

In my opinion if it is written and done well, it should work in any Sci-Fi fictions with the basic premise of forgotten/unknown advanced civilisations. Like Stargate, Babylon, Mass Effect, ect.

@jwwprod: no idea.

@jwwprod: Sorry for taking this long to reply, I am busy on my final.

I believe Scrin is equally matching up to make into a faction in Star Trek at its max, maybe Warhammer 40k if the game mechanic is developed by Westwood (I mean Westwood will help to create new War40k RTS).

@hatemalingsia: Actually, it was chaotically organized by EA. In which, I feel Scrin can stomp many universes at some points. Scrin is not well written, chaotically overpoweredly provided by Dark Lord EA.

If Scrin is given this technology, it can match with Whoverse.

@tularianroman said:

That would have been really interesting and awesome if Westwood made a WH40K game and I wonder what it would be like.

@jwwprod: Damn right.

I wish that if Westwood returned, they could combine C&C verse and Red Alert verse to create a chrono-trolling empire.

C&C mechanics is superior to Starcraft in most ways possible, because I feel to spend more times in Red Alert 2 rather than Starcraft Brood War (RA had more mods, thanks to Russian and Germans fans).

If War40k crosses over with C&C, I think it will be more like Scrin invasion of the War40k verse to reap everything like the Armarggedon in Bible. Otherword, Scrin would be a temporal empire of somekind since they demonstrated the ability to freeze time, move objects out of space-time continuum, and teleportation.

Bump.

Bump

@wut opinion?

@jwwprod: Jesus that Roman guy had an inflated opinion on C&C.

Mm, I wouldn't like them in 40k, 40k already has a race akin to the Scrin in the Nids, and it would be come redundant. (Personally, I think a race inspired by the Quarians would be amazing in 40k and would work amazingly well, a race of wandering gypsies in a massive fleet who lost their world to a race of sentient 'machine' ai *cough* Necrons *cough* who go around the galaxy scrounging whatever they can so, as a race, they could have looted armor, weaporny, vehicles, etc, along with their own, would have very neat diplomatic avenues with the Imperium, especially with Rogue Traders, the Tau, Eldar, etc. Just... they are one of the few sci-fi races that would bring something neat to the 40k universe without silliness going on and would add a lot of depth. @merulezall makes me want to write a Quarian Codex)

Anyways, Halo, Star Wars, Starcraft, Dune could be neat, FarScape, ehhhhh in smaller numbers they could make a neat Stargate addition. Their design is a bit too close to Rachni for me to do Mass Effect.. but.. I suppose.... they could mess with it and have the Rachni be their offshoot relations they created and seeded, akin to Tiberium, they are an exterior race coming in to mine crap, really work in any universe so long as you scale down or up as needed.

@wut: IDK about the Tyrinid comparison man... The scrin have an oldschool sci-fy alien vibe and is a tech faction over a bio faction, they give off a different feel.

I mean I personally would like to unleash a replicator from stargate on the 40k verse, but that is beside the point.

@thekillerklok: Lol that was more from an aesthetic point. Very 'insect' like appearance. The only difference is ones biomechanical and one is purely bio. (And I'll tell you what, 40k ripping off the Xenomoprh aesthetic was one of the best decisions they ever made because old Tyranids were hilariously awful looking.)

See, the problem with Replicators is that, just like most inserts, it either is there to get beaten up to show how Super Awesome 40k Races are, or is thrown in to stomp said 40k races cause Lawls. Neither acutally bring anything interesting to the setting nor help it evolve, its just a poorly written wish fulfillment exercise. A race based on the Quarians doesn't mess with the 'balance' and it fills in a very, very, very interesting faction and slot that hasn't really been explored in 40k and opens up so many avenues for good story telling, it improves the setting, which, for me, is the biggest decision in adding any outside faction into another.

@wut:

Ah, replicators themselves would have a natural enemy, that being orks, and I don't think they would be able to quickly smurf any one faction. (Except Tau but must I seriously count them as a faction?)

They would Force the necron, elder, dark elder, and the IOM to get creative,

@wut: If you thought his post here was bad you should look at some of the other stuff about his wank of C&C.

Like he made this thread about how he thinks Composite C&C Commando can solo Marvel and DC! He was also jugging the factions of the WH40K factions based on gameplay from the Dawn of War games in this thread. Though he did make one interesting thread about the Scrin invading StarCraft, Click here to see it.

As for Scrin in WH40K? I think they would be interesting but to be honest I would rather see the Scrin in the Star Wars universe to be honest, I think they could be like in Star Wars what the White Walkers are in Game of Thrones, and maybe have it that the Yuuzhan Vong were actually on the run from the Scrin, very slimier to how the Free Folk were on the run from the White Walkers.

Andromeda maybe.