I thought it was impossible,but Whedon has failed.

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Or is it too early to say because Agents is only 6 episodes in?

P.S. Agent Ward and Fitz- Simmons are written well enough.

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#2  Edited By deactivated-5c901e667a76c  Moderator

He didn't have a spotless record to begin with.

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#3  Edited By Fallschirmjager

I actually wouldn't blame Whedon too much. He only directed and wrote the pilot.

His involvement with the series is actually very little. He serves as the EP, but he isn't involved as much as he was on previous shows like Firefly or Buffy.

He's too busy making movies.

Show is pretty bad though, imo.

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The show is terrible, but Whedon only wrote the pilot. The only thing he's involved in with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is overlooking the Marvel Cinematic Universe (he get's to see things early, scripts, cuts, etc).

The only thing I blame him for - which pretty much plays into most of the show, is how he let these castings get out of hand. Everyone besides Clark Gregg and MAYBE Ming-Na Wen are just terrible. Chloe Bennett isn't even hot. She's the "Thea" of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

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Not his fault

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#6  Edited By cameron83

Agreed,the show is awful.

I don't know why my friend worships it AND Whedon.....then again,she praises the MCU and everything about it,so......

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@cameron83: Whedon gets too much credit. Feige is the mastermind behind the MCU.

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#8  Edited By Dabee

JeanRalphio on ComicVine doesn't like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. so Whedon has failed?

Personally I love the show, but since you don't like it, he's failed? Maybe it's just the way you wrote it, but your word choice comes off a little weird is all.

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I don't think the show is bad. It's just not that good yet. The first two or three eps were ok, but the last three were just passable tv. The show right now is too heartless and by the numbers. I'm still going to keep watching, I'm sure it will find its stride soon enough.

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The shows not even terrible it's good but it's never going to be Avengers good

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Whedon had nothing to do with the show after the pilot.

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@xwraith said:

He didn't have a spotless record to begin with.

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Still better than ailen 3

Which isn't saying much

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Whenever Feige is asked about AOS he get's really twitchy... I hope he knows this show is terrible. I really hope he was the mastermind behind Daredevil and the other Netflix shows.

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Its his fault!!!!!!!!!!

He's the one you want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's not great yet, but it isn't terrible. They want to do a "non-superhero" show in the superhero universe, but there's enough spy action/dramas out there. They should bring in some easy to adapt to TV heroes and I think it'd get a lot better.

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#17  Edited By Toa_Manaia

@tyrus said:

The show is terrible, but Whedon only wrote the pilot. The only thing he's involved in with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is overlooking the Marvel Cinematic Universe (he get's to see things early, scripts, cuts, etc).

The only thing I blame him for - which pretty much plays into most of the show, is how he let these castings get out of hand. Everyone besides Clark Gregg and MAYBE Ming-Na Wen are just terrible. Chloe Bennett isn't even hot. She's the "Thea" of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Amen mate, The show is frustrating as it seems to be purposely avoiding the many supers that inhabit the Marvel Universe, It is playing uber safe with itself and is looking VERY VANILLA BLAND because of it. IT is a Marvel show but with no...Marvel.

  1. Clark Gregg is the only shred of watchability the show has.
  2. Chloe Bennett's character is obnoxious and is not genuine (I can't take her activist character serious at all, I believe her link could be weakest of all),
  3. Agent Slab is well a slab of spam, I guess as he is so nondescript to the point where an actual slab of spam may be more emotive than him.
  4. Fitz and Simmons ohhhhh cripes, they are all sorts of horrible, similar to somebody running their fingernails down a chalk board.
  5. Ming Na Wen is borderline for me, but she exudes more of the air of a recalcitrant child as opposed to the dark mysterious type she is supposed to be.

I am honestly happy that I jumped off at episode 3, but I am frustrated by the shows unwillingness to embrace the world that is is set in, the vibrant world that is the Marvel Universe...

P.S - For the record I am still annoyed that the black guy in the pilot episode was not Luke Cage

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Whedon is over rated to begin with.

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I think Whedon is more focused on Avengers 2 and his own stuff to worry about AOS. I figured the studios goarded him into it to cash in on their individual films.

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@xwraith said:

He didn't have a spotless record to begin with.

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I thought it stumbled out of the gate but the last few episodes have been good. I think this is a show that will grow and get better week after week.

Also I think many people had unrealistic expectations for the show.

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@br_havoc said:

I thought it stumbled out of the gate but the last few episodes have been good. I think this is a show that will grow and get better week after week.

Also I think many people had unrealistic expectations for the show.

This and also Joss only wrote the pilot his brother Jed is the one you guys should be bashing but its whatever Defenders package is coming in 2015 so who cares

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#23  Edited By JeanRalphio

Joss Whedon failed because he continued to let the shitfest go on and he supervises the show. I just watched the last episode, it's decent, shitty effects and all.

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I don't blame Whedon. I blame all the Disney Producers.... Making a Marvel TV show with no Marvel characters.... They didn't make this show for Marvel Comic fans. They made it for all the millions of people who don't read comics, and saw the Avengers. I might start watching it once Victoria Hand shows up.

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I'm actually liking this show. I will admit that the first few episodes were a little slow, but the last two episodes were pretty good. I hope that we do see more Marvel characters appear in this show.

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I still don't understand how ABC could let a MARVEL show be so terrible considering that they have produced a lot of great shows in the past, yet CW- one of the shittest and cheesiest networks has been producing one of the best superhero shows...

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#28 JediXMan  Moderator

I don't think Whedon is the one to blame.

That said... yeah, the show sucks.

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Jed controls most of the show

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Nah it's not.

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#31  Edited By Rabbitearsblog

@rabbitearsblog: Everyone is a Marvel character.

Oh I meant the Marvel characters out of the comics (even though Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Gravitron showed up in this show so far).

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@jeanralphio: impossible? I knew he failed the moment he and Fiege were ok with not giving Pym credit for creating Ultron

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#33  Edited By InnerVenom123

@dabee said:

JeanRalphio on ComicVine doesn't like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. so Whedon has failed?

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I'm really enjoying the show myself :)

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Where's your show? Where's your vision for a televised Marvel Universe that links into Marvel movies? Nowhere!

If you don't like it, fine!

But saying "he failed!" well, maybe you should stop sitting on your head, as you seem to have wedged it into your buttocks!

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@jeanralphio: impossible? I knew he failed the moment he and Fiege were ok with not giving Pym credit for creating Ultron

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I lost interest halfway through the second episode. Didn't like Arrow or Smallville either. Overall, I don't think mainstream comics translate well on tv.

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Honestly if Alien Resurection and Agents of Shield are the only thing most people notice wrong with what Joss Whedon creates I don't know what to say.

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@dngn4774 said:

I lost interest halfway through the second episode. Didn't like Arrow or Smallville either. Overall, I don't think mainstream comics translate well on tv.

I agree with this. Smallville was stupid and Arrow is REALLY cheesy. I see people calling it "dark", and im like what episodes have they watched? The first Deathstroke reminds me of Bane from Batman and Robin.

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I stopped watching recently, just lost interest in the show.

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I'd much rather just watch Buffy and Angel over and over again, honestly. My favorite shows ever. Nothing's gonna recapture that magic for me. Not even the next Avengers flick.

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I haven't even watched this show because the previews were so annoying.

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Yup he failed.

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Yep its pretty poor. I had it on last Sunday night and was blogging on here and before I knew it the episode had finished. Just nothing much goes on apart from a few fist fights and Coulson giving tough love to his agents!