#1 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

The justice league so far has beaten Darkseid and his parademons, David Graves, Amazo, have fought martian manhunter (didn't beat him though), and the cheetah. I just want to see how powerful they are in pre 52 standards.

Also how many white martians could they take on? If any? I hope they can beat at least one.

#2 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone?

#3 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe the Justice League can fight 6 white martians ? Wonder Woman is good in fighting skills so she can probably beat 1 white martian.

#4 Posted by TheVoiceOfReason (747 posts) - - Show Bio

In all of the New 52 Superman's feats have put him on a level beyond Pre 52 Superman

I'd also say Barry has the same power but less experience as his Pre 52 counterpart

Batman is the same

Wonder Woman has less feats but with her revised origin and Zeus power she could be stronger than her Pre 52 counterpart also

I'd say Aquaman is a bit weaker because he hasn't shown his TP like he before the reboot.

#5 Edited by RedQueen (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL said:

The justice league so far has beaten Darkseid and his parademons, David Graves, Amazo, have fought martian manhunter (didn't beat him though), and the cheetah. I just want to see how powerful they are in pre 52 standards.

Also how many white martians could they take on? If any? I hope they can beat at least one.

I feel like such an idiot for asking this, but when did they beat Amazo.....have I missed an issue ? :p I've yet to read issue 15.....

Superman, for one, seems to be more powerful than his pre-52 counterpart (bench-pressing the Earth - which I kinda hated, but anyway-), as does Wonder Woman (although with less feats, its hard to tell- though we can assume that being essentially a demigod now grants her some extra possibilities in terms of powers).

@TheVoiceOfReason said:

I'd also say Barry has the same power but less experience as his Pre 52 counterpart

Batman is the same

I'd say Aquaman is a bit weaker because he hasn't shown his TP like he before the reboot.

And this.

As for the White Martians, I'd say they could take a few, like 3 maybe 4. Perhaps.

#6 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@RedQueen: In JL 8 in the beginning they don't actually show fighting action you just see him on the ground rebuilding his cells.

#7 Posted by TheVoiceOfReason (747 posts) - - Show Bio

Also in Red Hood and the Outlaws #14 Red Hood and his team are teleported form their ship to Earth and they said it took them around 1 minute to get from Pluto to Earth and Superman was already there. It would take light either 240-330 minutes to get to Pluto depending on its point in its orbit. So since it took Superman only around 1 minute to get there it makes Superman 240-330 times the speed of light. Which is way beyond his Pre 52 counterpart.

#8 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Superman is actually using space warps ?

#9 Posted by dondave (34706 posts) - - Show Bio

They could probably take them

#10 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheVoiceOfReason: Woah that's one feat.

#11 Posted by TheVoiceOfReason (747 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells said:

Maybe Superman is actually using space warps ?

He was beside their ship in space and I think following their like red pinkish teleportation trail so I'm pretty sure he flew.

#12 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Still weaker than the JLD.

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#13 Posted by The Stegman (23236 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheVoiceOfReason said:

Also in Red Hood and the Outlaws #14 Red Hood and his team are teleported form their ship to Earth and they said it took them around 1 minute to get from Pluto to Earth and Superman was already there. It would take light either 240-330 minutes to get to Pluto depending on its point in its orbit. So since it took Superman only around 1 minute to get there it makes Superman 240-330 times the speed of light. Which is way beyond his Pre 52 counterpart.

Also keep in mind that he not only made it to Earth in under a minute, but found the Outlaw's island hideout as well, meaning he went from Pluto to Earth, THEN searched the Earth to find them, although it's possible he just used super hearing to listen for them.
#14 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Lunact_And_Manic: But still stronger than The Avengers.

#15 Posted by TheVoiceOfReason (747 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

@TheVoiceOfReason said:

Also in Red Hood and the Outlaws #14 Red Hood and his team are teleported form their ship to Earth and they said it took them around 1 minute to get from Pluto to Earth and Superman was already there. It would take light either 240-330 minutes to get to Pluto depending on its point in its orbit. So since it took Superman only around 1 minute to get there it makes Superman 240-330 times the speed of light. Which is way beyond his Pre 52 counterpart.

Also keep in mind that he not only made it to Earth in under a minute, but found the Outlaw's island hideout as well, meaning he went from Pluto to Earth, THEN searched the Earth to find them, although it's possible he just used super hearing to listen for them.

Ya that is possible. Not entirely sure but I think he followed their teleportation trail because if you look back at the panel where they began teleporting and Superman is floating outside their ship theres the pinkish light trail they turned into outside of the ship moving,

#16 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

Does anyone know Flash's best feat?

#17 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Flash already had sex with Wonder Woman and nobody even noticed ?

#18 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: What gives you that idea?

#19 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheVoiceOfReason said:

In all of the New 52 Superman's feats have put him on a level beyond Pre 52 Superman

I'd also say Barry has the same power but less experience as his Pre 52 counterpart

Batman is the same

Wonder Woman has less feats but with her revised origin and Zeus power she could be stronger than her Pre 52 counterpart also

I'd say Aquaman is a bit weaker because he hasn't shown his TP like he before the reboot.

Pretty much this. I'd also add that Hal is the same, too.

#20 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: Yep

#21 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL said:

Does anyone know Flash's best feat?

Flash's best feat is creating the New 52.

Hah! Ultimate feat! He's a universe creator!

#22 Posted by chalkshark (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

They'd be too busy fighting each other to take on any White Martians.

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#23 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123: :) but seriously do you know.@chalkshark: They haven't fought each other and every team has their problems at first.

#24 Edited by chalkshark (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate to be contrary, Clark-EL, but... yeah they have. The current incarnation of the Justice League has spent more time in pointless brawls with one another, than they have taking down super-villains. You're right, every team does have it's growing pains, but the constant internal throw downs within the membership is absurd.

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#25 Posted by minigunman123 (3116 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL said:

@minigunman123: :) but seriously do you know.@chalkshark: They haven't fought each other and every team has their problems at first.

Time traveling.

#26 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@chalkshark: yeah i guess

#27 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

With Trinity War coming up, it does seem like there will be more fighting among 3 groups of super heroes. I do hope to see stories where the Justice League will fight powerful groups like Phantom zone villains, Daxamites, martians, saturnians, khera, circle of eternity, various color lanterns, etc.

#28 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: Me too. White martians are on my top ten villain list :)

#29 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

For the justice league origin, i would've preferred the Steve Englehart white martian origin which was sort of followed by the justice league cartoon, but the dc architects wanted to get rid of Martian Manhunter for the post flashpoint reboot to make the reboot lineup look different compared to pre-flashpoint.

#30 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: I could see that, but I kinda like cyborg

#31 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

For the post-flashpoint reboot, I would've preferred they made Superman weaker so cyborg has a chance to beat up Superman. Right now, cyborg is just a 2nd class super hero or a 3rd class super hero or a 4th class super hero compared to the all powerful Superman god. I also prefer Hal Jordan or John Stewart not be powerful enough to go around blowing up planets so we can all sleep better at night.

#32 Posted by SUNMAN (7141 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman- Seems about the same as he has been for the last decade or so

Superman- Hard to say. He is still one of the strongest characters around, but his showings across Superman, Action Comics an dJustice League have been a little inconsistant. He's nowhere as powerful as he was pre-crisis though.

Wonder Woman - Hard to say how much stronger or weaker she is. Still an incredibly warrior with a lot of strength regardless

Flash- In the Flash title he seems crazy fast. In Justice League he is speedy but nothing mind boggling for comic speedster standards

Cyborg- Huge power up. He's a lot stronger and more durable and packs a lot more firepower. Not to mention he can create boomtubes and is an elite Cyberpath

Aquaman- probably about the same strength as he has always had. He is just written like a bad@$$ now that is the only difference

Green Lantern- Depends on the lantern

#33 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@SUNMAN: How about Hal Jordan?

#34 Posted by SUNMAN (7141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL said:

@SUNMAN: How about Hal Jordan?

I'm not sure. Going by his showings in Justice League I'd say he looked less impressive than previous incarnations. However, he seems much more competent and formidable in the Green Lantern title. All in all I can't say for sure and I'm really not the best person to ask about Hal, but imo his constructs seemed weaker than usual in Justice League

#35 Posted by Clark_EL (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

@SUNMAN: I'm upset Hal left though, I hope he comes back.