#1 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

II heard he is as strong as Superman, faster than Supergirl, Superboy, and Superman combined (without teleportation), has teleportation, telekinesis, a pretty powerful telepath etc...

I also have a question is he faster than new 52 Flash?

#2 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio

So... this H'el guys is like a Super -Superman?

#3 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Timandm: Yeah he's actually one my favorite Superman villains now.

#4 Posted by Dayvid3 (807 posts) - - Show Bio

I still don't quite understand why he's got the extra abilities, is my only problem with him. Maybe I missed something, is he some sort of altered kyprtonian?

#5 Posted by Dernman (14611 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not really a fan of his or the story.

#6 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe H'el is a fake kryptonian and was actually born in Hawai'i ? Mahalo.

#7 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells said:

Maybe H'el is a fake kryptonian and was actually born in Hawai'i ? Mahalo.

I LIKE IT!!!

Hey! Maybe... He's a " Hybrid " Kryptonian/Hawaiian! That would explain him being so much more powerful... LOL!!! Are you a local boy? and "Colony of cells" ? Are you a biologist?

#8 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not from Hawai'i but I know they like to use apostrophe on words. I have tried poi (fermented taro). I only study biology as a hobby. H'el has so many powers that he is beginning to look more like Duplicate Boy, Mimic, Super Adaptoid. When the Martian Manhunter started in Detective Comics in the silver age, he was reputed to have 100 super powers.

#9 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dayvid3: Well my theory since he actually grew up on krypton until his late teens he knows the full potential of a kryptonian, personally I love his extra abilities.

@Dernman: Hmmm I like it it's one of the best stories right now with death of the family, and thrown of Atlantis.

#10 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: I like H'els alternate abilities.

#11 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (15900 posts) - - Show Bio

The is the Legendary Hyper krypto-jin (LHKJ)

:)

#12 Posted by ColonelRunAway (369 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, he had the power to literally break Superboy''s DNA in half.

'Course, Kon just passed out in pain as opposed to, y'know... F***ing dying on the spot, and Superman's suit somehow had the medical technology to treat him. So unless we've just thrown all logic out the window, I'm thinking H'el just shot him with a severe appendicitis ray and bulls****ed about the DNA part to make himself look cool.

#13 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@ColonelRunAway: Well my theory since he actually grew up on krypton until his late teens he knows the full potential of a kryptonian, personally I love his extra abilities.

#14 Posted by lightsout (1819 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the character, but I'm growing impatient waiting to find out how his abilities are more advanced (and perhaps a clear outline of what they are). I don't think we have to wait until a "final battle" to find out his full-background. Given the feats he's shown with his telekinesis & ability to teleport others seemingly anywhere - I'm just imagining it's going to take some plot-trick to take him down.

#15 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@lightsout: don't forget matter manipulation :)

I just think he got his alternate abilities naturally I'm probably wrong though.

#16 Posted by JonSmith (3980 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dayvid3 said:

I still don't quite understand why he's got the extra abilities, is my only problem with him. Maybe I missed something, is he some sort of altered kyprtonian?

As I understand it, he, like all, kryptonians, absorbs all solar radiation beyond red sunlight. Out among the stars, where he traveled in that first rocket, he passed through all kinds of stars and energy fields Superman and the gang can't even imagine. H'el absorbed the energy from those, and got a metric crapload more power than Superman has, since Superman and Supergirl both have only spent time around our yellow sun.

#17 Posted by TheCannon (17839 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dayvid3 said:

I still don't quite understand why he's got the extra abilities, is my only problem with him. Maybe I missed something, is he some sort of altered kyprtonian?

This.

#18 Edited by lightsout (1819 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL said:

@lightsout: don't forget matter manipulation :)

I just think he got his alternate abilities naturally I'm probably wrong though.

.....I'm too lazy to check..when was that? :D (if you're referencing the DNA stuff, IMO that'd just be very advanced TK - moving all the tiny molecules around "with your mind" (though I guess it's splitting hairs since I guess you could classify all matter manip. as hyper-strong/advanced TK).

I'd like it if it were like that too. It could be the pinnacle of Kryptonian (under yellow sun) potential. An explanation for large objects not crumbling when Supes holds them was some sort of tactile-kinesis (when he grabs crap his energy flows around it, holding it in place), so I always thought of Superboy's tactile-telekinesis/pure-telekinesis was a "higher potential unlocked" version of that (since he's a hybrid, and typically when you create a hybrid if inherits the best qualities of both halves - and thus Superboy could perhaps tap into a higher level of these abilities (though Supes is the Godfather & so he'll always be written as the best). So if Supes unconsciously uses this ability to manipulate large objects, and Superboy can consciously manipulate both objects he has contact with and far ones (in some incarnations), I wouldn't put it past for someone of their physiology to take the psionic aspects of their powers even further.

#19 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@lightsout: Yeah I totally agree`...the kryptonian hybrid thing reminds me of Gohan (half sayian half human)....anyways He can shrink objects but not himself.

#20 Edited by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: Good theory...Blue suns would probably increase his power by a lot

#21 Posted by lightsout (1819 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea, he was part of what drives that theory in my mind - including the "he should be stronger but he's not the main character (Goku) so in the end he won't be the big savior" part (but I fear mixing DBZ with traditional-comics, given the reactions many people have here, lol). Oh yea. I remember that part now. For real.....we need an explanation of how H'el got this advanced, haha.

#22 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@lightsout: Yeah I'm really fine with almost any reason they give him is powers. I'm not really a DBZ fan not anymore.

#23 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone else...

#24 Posted by NeonGameWave (7685 posts) - - Show Bio

He`s very powerful but I find him to be overrated in some aspects just like New 52 Superman, what makes him unique is his versatility.

#25 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe H'el is the dc version of Goku.

#26 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

H'El is DC's Broly

Legendary Super Kryptonian and shizzle.

could he be a kryptonian kherubim hybrid?? it could be a way to introduce Majestic and it would explain him being so much more powerful.

that or the travelling he made, he must have experienced and passed through lots of crap, who knows what effect that had on his abilities

EITHER WAY

H'El is the Broly of DC. I called it. it's the final truth now and no one can say otherwise

#27 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

I reckon that H'el is a normal Kryptonian and has gained these different powers from different suns while on his travels through space.

#28 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL: i think his power comes from that black star he passed throw.

#29 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180: Maybe, that would be a good explanation.

#30 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL: maybe or he probely like a mutant kryptonian

#31 Posted by tomlikesfries (4624 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith said:

@Dayvid3 said:

I still don't quite understand why he's got the extra abilities, is my only problem with him. Maybe I missed something, is he some sort of altered kyprtonian?

As I understand it, he, like all, kryptonians, absorbs all solar radiation beyond red sunlight. Out among the stars, where he traveled in that first rocket, he passed through all kinds of stars and energy fields Superman and the gang can't even imagine. H'el absorbed the energy from those, and got a metric crapload more power than Superman has, since Superman and Supergirl both have only spent time around our yellow sun.

Good thinking... But wouldn't he need to recharge the energy by, for example, sun dipping just like Superman?

#32 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180: I hope not

#33 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_EL: probely not i really dout that lobdel would woud do that hes probley just asorbed some funky enery

#34 Posted by Clark_EL (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180: yep