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#1 Edited by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

What some ideas and alternative routes you guys think Nolan should've used to finish off his Batman trilogy instead of what we got in 2012?

#2 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

That at the end of DR you hear an unknown voice narrating the end then a newspaper drops and its headlined by Clark Kent

#3 Posted by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725 said:

That at the end of DR you hear an unknown voice narrating the end then a newspaper drops and its headlined by Clark Kent

Lol. Never thought about that!

#4 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16736 posts) - - Show Bio

it should have ended at 2 like Nolan wanted but money makes the world go round

#5 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33050 posts) - - Show Bio

he should of died

#6 Posted by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

it should have ended at 2 like Nolan wanted but money makes the world go round

Agreed.

#7 Posted by sagejonathan (1936 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was awesome regardless of the ending. I still believe Superman saved Batman in the end. Batman doesn't die.

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#8 Posted by RustyRoy (12012 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm perfectly happy with how it ended.

#9 Edited by RBT (4138 posts) - - Show Bio

Perfect ending for a perfect trilogy.

#10 Posted by HumanRocket (7809 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't complain how it ended

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#11 Posted by Kairan1979 (16728 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not happy with the ending.

1) Batman faking his death and abandoning his fight? That's the insult to everything he stands for. In Batman Beyond he at least had an excuse - his body couldn't take the strain anymore.

2) 'Robin' isn't ready to replace Batman. He had no special training.

#13 Posted by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not happy with the ending.

1) Batman faking his death and abandoning his fight? That's the insult to everything he stands for. In Batman Beyond he at least had an excuse - his body couldn't take the strain anymore.

2) 'Robin' isn't ready to replace Batman. He had no special training.

Finally, a disagreement.

#14 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

it should have ended at 2 like Nolan wanted but money makes the world go round

What the heck does this even mean? If its implying that Nolan didn't want to make a third film but was lured by money than I disagree. He wanted to finish the story he already started telling.

#15 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16736 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve said:

@fallschirmjager said:

it should have ended at 2 like Nolan wanted but money makes the world go round

What the heck does this even mean? If its implying that Nolan didn't want to make a third film but was lured by money than I disagree. He wanted to finish the story he already started telling.

No he didn't. He had no plans to continue after TDK and instead wanted to move on and do his own projects. Hence why he did Inception first.

#16 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

No he didn't. He had no plans to continue after TDK and instead wanted to move on and do his own projects. Hence why he did Inception first.

I don't remember reading anything like that. I have never read anything that said he wanted to stop after Dar Knight, if anything, he had always wanted to finish the movie series with an actual ending and somewhat intended do at least one more.

Him making Inception in between means nothing, he made the Prestige between Begins and the Dark Knight, he just liked to take breaks between the films.

#17 Edited by Fallschirmjager (16736 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve said:

@fallschirmjager said:

No he didn't. He had no plans to continue after TDK and instead wanted to move on and do his own projects. Hence why he did Inception first.

I don't remember reading anything like that. I have never read anything that said he wanted to stop after Dar Knight, if anything, he had always wanted to finish the movie series with an actual ending and somewhat intended do at least one more.

Him making Inception in between means nothing, he made the Prestige between Begins and the Dark Knight, he just liked to take breaks between the films.

He mentioned not ever planning for a 3rd movie and used terms like "I'd probably become bored by then" (not exact text, but I specifically remember the term bored) in one of his books.

And that's hardly the only source. You must not have read anything if you never heard of it.

He had no plans to continue. They only came back because they wanted another movie, because money. Its what motivates everyone. WB/Nolan might have said it was story after the fact, but if that was true he would have had a 3rd movie planned all along and he didn't.

Its not like they were wrong in the end, as the 3rd one got them another billion. Though I personally didn't think it was great.

#18 Posted by Emequious_Swerve (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

He mentioned not ever planning for a 3rd movie and used terms like "I'd probably become bored by then" (not exact text, but I specifically remember the term bored) in one of his books.

And that's hardly the only source. You must not have read anything if you never heard of it.

He had no plans to continue. They only came back because they wanted another movie, because money. Its what motivates everyone. WB/Nolan might have said it was story after the fact, but if that was true he would have had a 3rd movie planned all along and he didn't.

I haven't. I am not trying to be a know-it-all, or out-right you or anything. I have honestly never read about him saying that, and find it weird being almost every super hero movie franchise very has had at least a trilogy.

I am aware they didn't start writing Rises until after Inception, but he also didn't really have a script for the Dark Knight until after The Prestige, so, I just never really thought anything of it.

I any regard, I would find it hard to believe anything Nolan says, yes he is a good, and creative and professional director, but he always seems a bit pretentious.

#19 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16736 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve: The specific text I was quoting was in his book about the movie trilogy. I forget what its was called :3

If I was successful as him, I might be a bit pretentious too lol

No joke..the dude is in his 40's and has pretty much made quality film after quality film after quality film. You know you're a good director when TDKR is your "worst movie"

#20 Posted by G_leno (990 posts) - - Show Bio

It should have ended when Gordon Shows him the Joker card.

#21 Posted by JetiiMitra (8521 posts) - - Show Bio

It shouldn't have ended.

#22 Posted by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_leno said:

It should have ended when Gordon Shows him the Joker card.

lol

#24 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (7820 posts) - - Show Bio

This is how it should have ended.

#26 Edited by Experio (15375 posts) - - Show Bio

Didnt have a problem with the way it ended.

#27 Edited by Guardiandevil83 (5520 posts) - - Show Bio

I would have liked if at the end, Joker is transported via truck to a new holding facility for his kind of sociopathic criminal, called Arkham. Then we see Joker walked inside and placed in a cell with a very large man, standing in the shadows. Viewer pov, back of Joker's head. Joker ask him, "And what's your name, big guy?" Camera then pans up, (after moving to guys feet) and the man steps into the light. And he is kinda scaly, his skin looks deformed but mot over the top. His eyes are red, from having ruptured vessels, but he see's perfectly. Dude say's "Croc."

Credit's.

#28 Posted by SilverPool (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

I was really satisfied with how it ended, the end of that movie is one of best experiences in a movie theater in memory.... but... If it were me I wouldn't have made it ambiguous with what happened to "John Blake" I would have just made it pretty straight forward that Batman was retired, but he was going to commit his time to train John to be the protector of Gotham after saying his goodbyes to his close friends. John Blake's name would be revealed as Dick Grayson (NOT Robin, that was BS), and he would become Nightwing. None of that "well maybe he came back and trained him, maybe he didn't get murdered on his first night out..."

I'm not happy with the ending.

1) Batman faking his death and abandoning his fight? That's the insult to everything he stands for. In Batman Beyond he at least had an excuse - his body couldn't take the strain anymore.

2) 'Robin' isn't ready to replace Batman. He had no special training.

That wasn't the reason he quit in Batman Beyond, the reason in Batman Beyond was better than his body being strained, he used a gun on a criminal for the first time.

It wasn't even confirmed that Robin was replacing Batman, and if he did he would have all of Batman's equipment at his disposal. They also didn't say if Bruce would ever return to Gotham. They make it clear that Batman is done but they don't say Bruce will never return to train Blake. So him having no special training is a complete unknown.

#29 Posted by RetconCrisis (3735 posts) - - Show Bio

Either give Talia more screen time or take her out completely and make Bane the mastermind he was in the comics.

#30 Edited by VoodooPenguin (974 posts) - - Show Bio

Bruce Wayne is taking off his cowl and he sets it in a high display on a table. When he walks away you can see the center of the table, on it lays a spinning top.

#31 Posted by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

I was really satisfied with how it ended, the end of that movie is one of best experiences in a movie theater in memory.... but... If it were me I wouldn't have made it ambiguous with what happened to "John Blake" I would have just made it pretty straight forward that Batman was retired, but he was going to commit his time to train John to be the protector of Gotham after saying his goodbyes to his close friends. John Blake's name would be revealed as Dick Grayson (NOT Robin, that was BS), and he would become Nightwing. None of that "well maybe he came back and trained him, maybe he didn't get murdered on his first night out..."

@kairan1979 said:

I'm not happy with the ending.

1) Batman faking his death and abandoning his fight? That's the insult to everything he stands for. In Batman Beyond he at least had an excuse - his body couldn't take the strain anymore.

2) 'Robin' isn't ready to replace Batman. He had no special training.

That wasn't the reason he quit in Batman Beyond, the reason in Batman Beyond was better than his body being strained, he used a gun on a criminal for the first time.

It wasn't even confirmed that Robin was replacing Batman, and if he did he would have all of Batman's equipment at his disposal. They also didn't say if Bruce would ever return to Gotham. They make it clear that Batman is done but they don't say Bruce will never return to train Blake. So him having no special training is a complete unknown.

I forget, did he shoot the criminal?

#32 Posted by _Gaff_ (3349 posts) - - Show Bio

This, but without Scarface

#33 Posted by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

I never could take the cookie-monster-impression Bale voice seriously

#34 Posted by Jayc1324 (11600 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it ended perfectly. Bruce went from being a young man that just wanted vengeance to a man willing to sacrifice his life for his city. And somehow still survive, which just makes him more bad*as

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#35 Posted by SilverPool (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

@modernww2fare: Nope, but he aimed it at the criminal out of desperation. He was being beaten with a crowbar IIRC.

#36 Posted by DoctorXander (1079 posts) - - Show Bio

I had no problem with the ending, loved it. People who Dark Knight rises need to stop complaining

#37 Posted by DoctorXander (1079 posts) - - Show Bio

I never could take the cookie-monster-impression Bale voice seriously

I love the movies, but its almost offensive when compared to Kevin Conroy's Batman voice

#39 Posted by waezi2 (7166 posts) - - Show Bio

I kinda dig the way Demo Reel made it end.

#40 Posted by ganon15 (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

it should have ended at 2 like Nolan wanted but money makes the world go round

^so much truth in this statement

#41 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16744 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

Perfect ending for a perfect trilogy.

#42 Posted by lesterlawton (736 posts) - - Show Bio

It should have ended with an apology from Nolan.

#43 Posted by PapiNacho (2377 posts) - - Show Bio

Loved the ending, you can't make a more epic ending for Batman and at the same time keep Nolan's tone.

#44 Edited by modernww2fare (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Loved the ending, you can't make a more epic ending for Batman and at the same time keep Nolan's tone.

you mean Batman faking his death and quitting?

#45 Posted by Outside_85 (8709 posts) - - Show Bio

It ended in a way that made sense for this movie trilogy. Batman had already retired 8 years before DK Rises, he was pretty wrecked because of the time he spent being Batman (like any normal human would be) and only got back into the gig because someone dragged him out of the manor.

In that sense, Bruce faking his own death and going away with Selina gave us the one thing the comics cant/wont: a happy ending for Bruce Wayne. And it closed the door for later directors to come in and ruin Nolans work the same way Burtons was and gives us a clean slate.

#46 Edited by ganon15 (1448 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#47 Posted by Jayc1324 (11600 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked the ending.

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#48 Posted by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

bruce dying..ultimate sacrifice, who he was even in Nolanverse doesn't have the ability to walk away

#49 Posted by fil123 (516 posts) - - Show Bio

@emequious_swerve said:

@fallschirmjager said:

it should have ended at 2 like Nolan wanted but money makes the world go round

What the heck does this even mean? If its implying that Nolan didn't want to make a third film but was lured by money than I disagree. He wanted to finish the story he already started telling.

No he didn't. He had no plans to continue after TDK and instead wanted to move on and do his own projects. Hence why he did Inception first.

actually he said he had knew how he wanted to end the series (tdkr ending) since he started writing BB... but they did reshoot the ending of TDK so who knows

#50 Posted by _Atomikill_ (4110 posts) - - Show Bio

@_gaff_ said:

This, but without Scarface

Eh, I think Scarface could've worked on a bigger budget.