How did Captain America cause the Infinity Gems to shatter?

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#1  Edited By xxxddd

The Living Tribunal's decree was overturned, so how did Cap do it?

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What title/issue is this?

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In theory, the Illuminate was going to use the gems in that half-world where they could see the other Earth. So maybe the gems tore themselves appart when they couldn't figure out if they were in their own universe or not. Why that last gem didn't break along with them, I dunno.

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The gems only work in the reality they are from. He was using it to close a breach between two realities. (And didn't really know how to use it the way someone like Thanos or Warlock would.)

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#5  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Because the power of 'Murica.

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Cause hes weak

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@tyger: I'm aware they only in work in their native reality....but he did use the gems in his native reality, and the gems worked...so why did the gems shatter from Cap using it and not all the other times the gems were used?

@acer51 said:

What title/issue is this?

New Avengers Vol. 3 #3.

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#8  Edited By xxxddd

@god_spawn: So did the gems shatter simply because Hickman wanted them to shatter?

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@xxxddd said:

@tyger: I'm aware they only in work in their native reality....but he did use the gems in his native reality, and the gems worked...so why did the gems shatter from Cap using it and not all the other times the gems were used?

From my understanding that is only true for other realities and not from 616. I think it has to do with their connection to Nemesis..

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There is no clear answer to why the gems broke. You can say that because two different dimensions were in range of the gems, that it caused the gems to break which is the best theory. But as far as the time gem goes, you can read Avengers 29 and the upcoming issue 30 to find out what happened to the time and to get a better answer to why the gems broke.

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#14  Edited By xxxddd

@god_spawn: @mr_ingenuity: Not related to this topic but oh well...

How did Thanos lose the power of this Cosmic Cube?

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#17  Edited By InnerVenom123

I was pretty sure it was because of how they only work in their native reality, but I dunno.

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Too much patriotism in his veins.

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@mr_ingenuity: Does that mean that the one that Star-Lord later had was also fake?

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#21  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@xxxddd said:

Does that mean that the one that Star-Lord later had was also fake?

Not sure of the instance you're referring to.

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#23  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@xxxddd: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 19 Kang gives it to Star-Lord & had it set for a specific use. There isn't any to suggest it was fake from their dialog.

Magus admits that the cosmic cube would have killed him.

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@mr_ingenuity: Last question for you, there was an instance of Red Skull getting hold of a Cosmic Cube from A.I.M., only to have the cube dissolved by a "Catholite Block" by A.I.M. scientists, from Captain America #115–120 (July–Dec. 1969). Is this still canon, and if so, do you have scans for it?

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#25 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@xxxddd: 2006 bio, last paragraph first page.

I'll post the Captain America scans later.

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#26  Edited By xxxddd

@mr_ingenuity: Thanks for the help. I've decided to read all of the canon appearances of a Cosmic Cube(or Cubes) in Marvel's entire history and I just needed clarification on a few things.

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@xxxddd said:

@mr_ingenuity: Thanks for the help. I've decided to read all of the canon appearances of a Cosmic Cube(or Cube) in Marvel's entire history and I just needed clarification on a few things.

that is a very solid decision. get ready for some awesome story lines and appearances.

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Hickman sometimes leaves plot/canon holes, it comes with the territory of the elaborate stories he writes.

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#29  Edited By xxxddd

@maccyd: Yeah, I understand that the gems breaking was stupid writing, considering that it was established that the gems are indestructible, and immutable.

@cosmicallyaware1: Cool.

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#30  Edited By MakkyD

@xxxddd: Yeah, I think he made a few cosmic canon mistakes in his F4 run too, I'm too tired to remember any in particular, though. I think Hickman came up with the Infinity Gauntlet original universe restriction in the first place, so he maybe he has a new idea for some of its mechanics (if this scene is ever explained further in the future).

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#31  Edited By xxxddd

@maccyd said:

I think Hickman came up with the Infinity Gauntlet original universe restriction in the first place

Are you referring to the fact that the "Council of Reeds" in Hickman's FF run possesses various IG's, but that they only worked in their respective universes? I thought the IG working only in its native reality was established before Hickman's FF run.

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#32 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@xxxddd: Thanos annual has the IG has multiversal with Thanos sending avatars to alternate timelines. But New Avengers has it as Universal.

Also the scans as promised.