How come Thor was able to defeat the Destroyer so quickly but had a hard time with Ultron?

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The Destroyer is a mystical armor created by Asgard but Ultron is a man made creation that gave him a beating in the new Avengers movie.

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#2  Edited By NinjaWarrior268

The destroyer isn't mystical. It's Agardian tech since the Asgardians consider magic and tech to be the same

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MCU = PIS machine

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The Destroyer is a mystical armor created by Asgard but Ultron is a man made creation that gave him a beating in the new Avengers movie.

Thor got blindsided by Ultron and lost Mjolnir (again, seems to happen in every Thor fight). Once Mjolnir got involved Ultron went flying and got his face melted.

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Because AOU was a sh*tty, badly written movie that ignored previous movies when it felt like it.

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Well its a redone version. Not everyone from movie and comics has to be on the same pedestal. Destroyer Armor in the cinematic universe perhaps wasn't as powerful. If you look to comics, Thor has never even been a match for Destroyer Armor and it has outright laughed at Thor's best attacks.

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because you can't just destroy main villain of the movie in 20 seconds...

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Probably the fact that Ultron was made of Vibranium, and they wanted an excuse for Vision to wield Thor's hammer.

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because you can't just destroy main villain of the movie in 20 seconds...

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#11  Edited By NeonGameWave

Avengers AoU and Thor were written, by different writers and were directed by different directors. What Thor was able to do in his movie doesn`t equal to what he should be able to do in an Avengers movie.

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#12 JediXMan  Moderator

Thor was able to destroy the Destroyer from the inside out. He forced the energy it produced back to its source. He didn't physically destroy it himself, he did it with its own powers. Kinda like the final battle in the Incredibles.

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#13  Edited By MrHamWallet

Thor is nerfed for the Avengers films so other members of the team can actually participate. AoU was inconsistent with other showings as Thor was dominated by Ultron who was dominated by Hulk.

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Bad writing. One moment Ultron is going toe to toe with Iron Man then other he's having a hard time against Captain America. I finally saw the movie. While entertaining, they took a dump on Ultron (who stomps the Avengers in the comics).

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Because Ultron > Destroyer. Simple.

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#19  Edited By Heatforce

I'm surprised the destroyer wasn't made from the same metal as mjolnir. Screw vibranium, I want that metal mjolnir is made from.

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Avengers AoU and Thor were written, by different writers and were directed by different directors. What Thor was able to do in his movie doesn`t equal to what he should be able to do in an Avengers movie.

bit like the comics. Thor in his own title was epic, in the Avengers, he was watered down.

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Thor wasnt really trying against Ultron, he was trying to open up for Vision to sneak attack Ultron, and Thor was pissed against the Destroyer.

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he hit a weak point

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#28  Edited By Dextersinister

Current Iron Man is stronger than Thor, simple

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Because Thor always has to play second fiddle to Hulk in the Avenger films.

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#30  Edited By jumpstart55

And this is why Marvel and DC are scared of crossing the TV shows with the movies. People get too easily confused about whats canon and whats not canon. First things first, The MCU and comic book marvel verse are completely separated, sure they both creatively inspire and influence each other, but for the most part they are separated. In the comics the destroyer is a virtually unstoppable automaton he is essentially an enchanted suit of high tech armor. But in the movie verse he was pretty much the same but with the virtually unstoppable part completely omitted from his characterization. He served as no more then a plot device, to help Thor regain his powers. That,s the thing about comic book movies, they taken certain creative liberties with the source material. Like in Iron-man 3 when they turned the Mandarin arguably Iron-mans greatest villain into a drunken,rehab ridden comedic stage actor and they had us all going with casting of the great Ben Kinglsey perhaps the Mandarin was going to switch cultures and be modernized to fit into the current worlds sphere, but sadly that wasn't the case. The same goes for Silver Samurai in the Wolverine, badass mutant from the the X-men comic verse, one of Logans core rogues, reduced to a hollowed out suit of pure plot device, almost exactly in the same fashion as the destroyer. Ultron on the other was portrayed as far more powerful, because he was the films central antagonist, he needed to be that way for story telling and script reasons. Comic book storytelling vastly differs from Movie Storytelling, one is a product whose story can be told on a handful of panels for 32 pages and released to a very small market of hardcore fans typically American readers. So of course the stories and be far more expansive and drawn out. Where as the other is a multi hundred milon dollar movie being relased to a world wide of audicnes of potentially hundreds of millions of people spanning various cultures. Think about markets like China and Japan, who areent very familiar with comic book superheroes accept for the obvious big hitters like Superman, Spider-man, Batman and a few others. They most certainly aren't familiar with an old Norse mythology story re imagined in the ealrly 1960s as a comic book narrative. They have no clue who the Destroyer is. Marvel took the basic idea of the destroyer and watered him down immensely, but they kept a little a bit of the character intact to please the hardcore comic fans among us. Thats what their always doing when they take a beloved fan favorite and completely change him/her, but keep said characters name, its a little shout out to the fans. But of course it never goes over well with the fans. But anyways The MCU/Dinsey movie machine, is like a cookie cutter, they produce these films in a very processed way, they sprinkle a little bit of everything for everybody. Of course i,m not saying this is a bad thing, because just because its a big budget heavily scrutinized films doesn't mean it cant be artistically creative or an awesome film i mean thats the whole point, their trying to reimagine these characters in in exiting new ways. Sometimes it works, sometimes it dosent, think Heth Ledgers Joker (Great) and X-men origins Deadpool (Not so great). But anyways the point i,m trying to make is understand that the MCU film verse or pretty much any comic book films verse is an entirely separate entity from their comic book counter parts. Their two entirely different products that are consumed on to very different markets both in terms of scale and culture. Well mainly in terms scale,i mean think about the hundreds of millions of people that see those films. Their literally trying to please the world with those films. Kind of funny when you think about.