How come Iron Man is the only one blamed for Civil War?

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What about Ms Marvel, Black Widow, She-Hulk and all the other heroes who supported registration?

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Probably because he was the head.

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Because Iron Man was the leader of the registration drive, and Marvel went out of their way to place the blame for everything that happened on him. Tony created Ragnarok, Tony had everyone tossed in the Negative Zone, Tony hired super-villains, etc.

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@saren: this. Plus Iron Man just keeps effing up

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Tony is the best looking and richest, so everyone else is jealous.

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Why not.

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@saren: @avenging_x_bolt: But Reed invented the prison, and Carol was pretty much his second in command AND the leader of the Mighty Avengers.

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@waezi2: I'm aware. People pick on Iron Man because he was the boss and has more sins under his belt in general.

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@waezi2: it's not a hundred percent fair but it happens.

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I remember reading an interview where Mark Millar stated that the Pro-Registration side of the "war" was the good side. Reading the confessions story for Civil "War" made me see why Tony had to take that position but it's kinda unfair that he gets most of the blame.

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@humanrocket said:

I remember reading an interview where Mark Millar stated that the Pro-Registration side of the "war" was the good side. Reading the confessions story for Civil "War" made me see why Tony had to take that position but it's kinda unfair that he gets most of the blame.

If he said that, then that shows how horrible his writing is lol Did NOT see it that way.

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Always blame the rich white guy. Easy targets.

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I agree, Reed Richards and Hank Pym should be equally held as responsible. They were proponents of the registration act just as much as Tony was.

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@jphu8414 said:

I agree, Reed Richards and Hank Pym should be equally held as responsible. They were proponents of the registration act just as much as Tony was.

Hank was captured and replaced by the Skrulls at the time. I agree on Reed.

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@jphu8414: wasn't Hank a skrull during civil war.

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I don't. I blame Mark Millar.

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@westy206: @night4345: Ah yes that is correct, thank you for reminding me. Although I think it's possible that real Hank Pym could have felt the same way.

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@jphu8414 said:

@westy206: @night4345: Ah yes that is correct, thank you for reminding me. Although I think it's possible that real Hank Pym could have felt the same way.

Possibly. He definitely wouldn't help create a cyborg of a dear friend and sent it after other heroes. Hank of all people would know that's a bad idea.

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#21  Edited By frozenedge2

Probably because Tony was the one calling all the shots.

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I blame Captain America, he was "The South" in this Civil War. :p

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@saren said:

Because Iron Man was the leader of the registration drive, and Marvel went out of their way to place the blame for everything that happened on him. Tony created Ragnarok, Tony had everyone tossed in the Negative Zone, Tony hired super-villains, etc.

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Iron man shouldn't get all the blame, even if he was I one calling most the shots you still have Reed who was fully aware and contributing to the registration drive

Not saying that Iron man did do anything wrong but people dump all the blame on him

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Supporting and putting the wheels in motion and enforcing are completely different things. Loved the arc hated the ending.

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He headed it... So everyone blames him and besides...

Which hero doesn't love blaming Tony???

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Because basically he came up with the idea and was the leader of the whole thing. The others are just worth mentioning but nothing more, they were just "following orders".

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He would deserve all the blame he gets, and the rest be held responsible for their actions, were they not under the influence of PIS.

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Tony is rich, for the same he is evil.

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#31  Edited By Quickfingers26

Leaders are always the focal point when it comes to placing blame or rewarding the success or failure of a project. Using war as an example... the generals are honored and remembered (Patton, Grant, etc) while the grunts and support are merely acknowledged.

And to be fair, Tony makes himself an easy target.

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I blame Captain America, he was "The South" in this Civil War. :p

What do you mean "was"? It ain't over yet, bub. Anti-registration will rise again!

Seriously, though, what happened to the whole registration thing? Has it really been brought up since?

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@battle_forum_junkie: Yeah, the president made Steve what whatever Osborn was, and Steve declared that registration was no more.

Just like that.

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@waezi2 said:

@battle_forum_junkie: Yeah, the president made Steve what whatever Osborn was, and Steve declared that registration was no more.

Just like that.

Well, that's... Convenient...

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Because Reed Richards is god damn Houdini when it comes to Karma.

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@vrakmul: When you can get away with slapping your wife, you can get away with everything.

Look at poor Hank. He didn't even really hit Jan, and he is still referred to as "the wife beater"

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@waezi2 said:

@vrakmul: When you can get away with slapping your wife, you can get away with everything.

Look at poor Hank. He didn't even really hit Jan, and he is still referred to as "the wife beater"

Sue must really, really like Reed's elastic bedroom maneuvers to put up with a husband as terrible as Reed.

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@vrakmul said:

Because Reed Richards is god damn Houdini when it comes to Karma.

this. so much this.

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Because he accepted the job of being the SRA poster-boy and to lead the charge against the non-signers.

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Because Tony was the one who benefitted the most from the war. Tony ended up replacing Fury as a Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. Not to mention the profits he got from the war (check Civil War : Frontline for the details).

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#42  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

@kairan1979: and the embezzlement, don't forget the embezzlement

@waezi2: Hank did hit Jan even though that's not the way it was supposed to be written originally. Women don't spontaneously end up with black eyes. And Reed hitting Sue was much more forgivable seeing as how she was under control of Malice at the time he was trying to bring her to her senses whereas Jan was trying to explain to Hank that it's not ok to build Killer robots to attack your teammates so that you can stay on a team.

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#43  Edited By waezi2  Online

@avenging_x_bolt: I know. And I think they should have settled with the killer-robots.

@kairan1979: You mean the one with "Your not american because you don't like race-cars, Cap!!!", right?

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@waezi2: oh the Killer robot got it's turn. And it kicked Hank's ass.

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#45 waezi2  Online

@avenging_x_bolt: No, I meant JUST killer-robots.

... Seriously, Hank kinda sucks at being a scientist supreme...

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#46  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

@waezi2: oh ok, I see what you mean now. I agree, they screwed poor Hank up for life with that one. I thought the whole Scientist Supreme thing was just a lie from Loki. Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a Hank hate thread. Dude is a Fantastic character IMO and one of my fav Avengers.

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#48  Edited By chamber-music

The aftermath made it seem like another one of Tony's poorly thought out "I know best crusades" which it partly was but Reed should of definitely taken a lot more heat.

The Hank Pym who appeared in Civil War was Skrull so Hank got a free pass for a change although his best friend was murdered so it wasn't that much of a win for him.

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#49 waezi2  Online

@chamber-music: Cap has I-Know-Better crusades all the time now. How is that any different?