Hand to Hand Combat / Martial Arts

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In the comic book world, and possibly real life, do you consider Martial Arts and Hand to Hand combat the same thing, or 2 different things? A lot of battles in here are one character vs another character, pure H2H, and a lot of times, people say that the battle has already been done, but the battle that's already been done is usully just a "vs" match, where both characters can do whatever they want, such as punch, kick, flip, jump....etc. Captain America is known as one of the best "Hand to Hand" combatants, not necessarily the best Martial Artist, but is that really true?

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Honestly it's just an arbitrary set of words put together to voice the action of two people wailing on each with unarmed strikes and melee weapons. That's it. The only slight distinction might be that martial arts implies an actual style with specific techniques and such. Personally I think it really doesn't matter how many billion styles you know, if you can use just one and kick the crap out of everyone then what use do you have for the rest.

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Not every martial art deals in hand to hand combat so you could be a great martial artist but not be a great hand to hand combatant.

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The only difference is that martial arts specifies a discipline, whereas H2H may or may not just be two people swinging their fists.

Basically the same thing.

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Most Martial Arts have hand to hand combat systems, however there are systems that incorporate martial art techniques.

As far as comics, most of it is bull. You can't master 15 martial arts in a small amount of time. But for the sake of comics lets say you could. It still doesn't make you a better fighter. If anything it would make you worst. If you knew 127 block techniques, when someone attacks you there's a good chance your brain will lock up trying to choose which technique to incorporate. Which is where combat systems come in. They gather a group of effective techniques from martial arts, and through repetition make these techniques second nature.

Neither is better than the other.

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you can be good at hand to hand(like a barroom brawler) and not know real martial arts

but martial arts can cover anything from boxing to fencing to muay thai

and you can be well trained in proper style in anything, but not know how to fight in a different scenario

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#7  Edited By Night4345

Martial arts use a wide range of weapons throughout many disciplines.

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#8  Edited By godzilla44

H2H can involve somebody having physicals but being a better martial artist pretty much means having better skill and technique

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Honestly it's just an arbitrary set of words put together to voice the action of two people wailing on each with unarmed strikes and melee weapons. That's it. The only slight distinction might be that martial arts implies an actual style with specific techniques and such. Personally I think it really doesn't matter how many billion styles you know, if you can use just one and kick the crap out of everyone then what use do you have for the rest.

I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.

Bruce Lee.

At the end is real self defense and real fighting what matters in a fight.

And i dont mean the guy that attack the most or dodge better, but the guy that will keep himself together the best after the fight or better find a way to be out of the fight.

MMA has made things worst, since people now believe fighting is another thing and it work like in the UFC.

I just wish the MMA fans never get in a real fight, they will have a hard time when they notice the truth.

At the end, the experience is what matter, Batman could know 127 styles, this dont change the fact Deathstroke and David Cain will always kick his ass, they maybe know less styles that him, but have way more experience, they know fighting better that Bruce.

Fighting is more chaotic that anything and that is why experience matters the most.

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#10  Edited By Wolfrazer

At the end, the experience is what matter, Batman could know 127 styles, this dont change the fact Deathstroke and David Cain will always kick his ass, they maybe know less styles that him, but have way more experience, they know fighting better that Bruce.

Fighting is more chaotic that anything and that is why experience matters the most.

Makes it more amusing that, even when he goes up against people who are great fighters, yet they don't know as many styles. People just seem to fall back on the "well...Bats knows 127 styles, he could counter all of what the other guy knows and beat him!"

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@deathpoolthet1000 said:

At the end, the experience is what matter, Batman could know 127 styles, this dont change the fact Deathstroke and David Cain will always kick his ass, they maybe know less styles that him, but have way more experience, they know fighting better that Bruce.

Fighting is more chaotic that anything and that is why experience matters the most.

Makes it more amusing that, even when he goes up against people who are great fighters, yet they don't know as many styles. People just seem to fall back on the "well...Bats knows 127 styles, he could counter all of what the other guy knows and beat him!"

Death Battle whole argument was based on the fact Batman knew "all martial arts".

Captain America had super powers, WW 2 experience, not only that he is obviously more of a fighter that goes with the moment that with a plan that Bruce and the fight is set with both of them knowing they will fight.

Captain America got killed without a problem, even when the truth is that Batman would had need to use a bunch of his gadgets, need more time to recover and if he gets for too much time in a fist fight he would get killed by Captain.