Greatest non-human scientists in comics?

no one who has there powers naturally (looking at you metahumans and mutants) but humans who were severely mutated are aalowed, sure

I'm going with

* Thrann

* The Stranger

* Ziran the Tester

who else is there?

@betatesthighlander1:

krona

I don't know about greatest, but the following non-human scientists come to mind:

• Ultra-Humanite
• Egg-Fu
• Bertron

@rolldestroyer: oh yeah, I forgot about him

@veshark: who is bertron?

Egg-Fu, Ultra-Humanite (though he was technically human to begin with), Jor-El, Henry McCoy, Brainiac.

@betatesthighlander1 Google is your friend, buddy :)

Kidding. Bertron is the scientist who developed Doomsday.

Brainiac 5.

@joygirl: hey, henry McCoys a Mutant!

I made it clear I didn't want any of those muties on my thread!!!

Brainiac 5.

Check... aaaaaaand mate.

@joygirl: first sentence on my first post

read it

@betatesthighlander1: I think McCoy counts as "severely mutated".

@joygirl: but his mutations happenned to him naturally, and his further mutations were c asued by potions taht just caused his powers to manifest fully

@betatesthighlander1: So, if he doesn't count as "severely mutated", what does? Or was that a trick clause?

Thanos

@joygirl: they had something in life 9radiation spill, cosmic rays, whatever) that made them different enough from humans to be considered though by most peoples

I would say The Leader conuts(becasue he wasn't born with his powers) Abomination, Ultra-Humanite sure, Micahel Korvac(sometimes)

anyways, would you consider Hank McCoy a human?

@betatesthighlander1: Ultra-Humanite was born human. He implanted his brain into a white ape.

By "cosmic rays", that means Reed Richards would count, who is about as human as it gets aside from being stretchy.

The Leader merely got juiced with radiation. By those specs, Spider-Man counts as "severely mutated". Same with Blonsky.

Hank McCoy is a mutant. He can't walk down a street without someone running in terror from him. He has claws and fangs and is covered in blue fur. He's much more monstrous and inhuman than most of the people you stated, despite his gentle heart. Like everyone else he was also born human, merely with a latent gene that manifested later in his life.

@joygirl: homo superior and Homo sapiens have been shown to preduce fertile offspring (like Professor X's son, Legion) so they'd be the same species (they also evolved on the sam eplanet as humans, and randomly are born by humans) anyways, being able to walk down the street without ignorant people freaking out is hardly a measure ofhumanity

and i'd consider Reed Richards a human, Spider-Man to(because both of them are still human in appearance and behavior)

Blonsky on the other hand became a huge abomination who often acts monstrous and is covered in sclaes, we're not sure oif he can still reproduce (we don't even know if he has genitals in his monstrous form) so he's been mutated to something other than human, by my book

@betatesthighlander1: So your definition of human is "can reproduce with humans"?

That's pretty arbitrary.

In that case, meet these lovely human friends I just found. :D

Because the Neflords just LOVE reproducing with humans.

@joygirl:

and produce fertile offspring?

okay then. lets try to get down a definition in taht case

*from Earth

* either the child of two humans pr produced from human genetic material

* able to produce fertile offspring with humans

how's that for a definition?

@betatesthighlander1: What proof do you have that The Leader cannot produce viable offspring?

Hulk fathered Skaar with an alien, for cryin' out loud, so clearly gamma radiation doesn't cause one to be infertile. If Leader were fully capable of fathering fertile offspring with a human, would that remove him from the list of viable candidates for "greatest non-human scientist"?

Also, what about that story where Peter Parker tries to have a child with MJ and his radioactive spunk kills her? That would slap him back on the list.

@joygirl: oh god, I'm sorrry, I forgot about the Comicbook tendency to have reproductive laws as whatever the writers want wheneevr they want

so maybe Leader should count as still being human in that case, and I wasn't sure if the whole miscarriage arcwas still cannon

@betatesthighlander1: Not sure if it still is either. But I think it makes my point.

My point being, in comics, deciding what is "human" and what isn't borders on impossibility. Hence, I chose characters who were quite clearly inhuman merely by a cursory glance at them.

@joygirl: I can see the rationale behind that, but for this forum I'd rather you chose charcaters whose origins don't trace back to humanity

@betatesthighlander1: So.

Aliens.

So, I stand by Jor-El and Brainiac. Besides that, *shrug*.

@joygirl: cool

and srry if I came of as rude

@betatesthighlander1: No prob. Guidelines are just insanely vague. Now that they are cleared people should be able to make more accurate choices.

@xanni15: does Thanos have any serious science feats?

This guy right here!

@battle_forum_junkie: hell yeah he is