#1 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

no one who has there powers naturally (looking at you metahumans and mutants) but humans who were severely mutated are aalowed, sure

I'm going with

* Thrann

* The Stranger

* Ziran the Tester

who else is there?

#2 Posted by rolldestroyer (3544 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by Veshark (9326 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know about greatest, but the following non-human scientists come to mind:

  • Ultra-Humanite
  • Egg-Fu
  • Bertron
#4 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio

Egg-Fu, Ultra-Humanite (though he was technically human to begin with), Jor-El, Henry McCoy, Brainiac.

#6 Posted by Veshark (9326 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1 Google is your friend, buddy :)

Kidding. Bertron is the scientist who developed Doomsday.

#7 Posted by Saren (27106 posts) - - Show Bio

Brainiac 5.

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#8 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: hey, henry McCoys a Mutant!

I made it clear I didn't want any of those muties on my thread!!!

#9 Posted by TDK_1997 (15988 posts) - - Show Bio

Brainiac 5.

#10 Posted by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Posted by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: but his mutations happenned to him naturally, and his further mutations were c asued by potions taht just caused his powers to manifest fully

#14 Posted by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: So, if he doesn't count as "severely mutated", what does? Or was that a trick clause?

#15 Posted by Xanni15 (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

#16 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: they had something in life 9radiation spill, cosmic rays, whatever) that made them different enough from humans to be considered though by most peoples

I would say The Leader conuts(becasue he wasn't born with his powers) Abomination, Ultra-Humanite sure, Micahel Korvac(sometimes)

anyways, would you consider Hank McCoy a human?

#17 Edited by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: Ultra-Humanite was born human. He implanted his brain into a white ape.

By "cosmic rays", that means Reed Richards would count, who is about as human as it gets aside from being stretchy.

The Leader merely got juiced with radiation. By those specs, Spider-Man counts as "severely mutated". Same with Blonsky.

Hank McCoy is a mutant. He can't walk down a street without someone running in terror from him. He has claws and fangs and is covered in blue fur. He's much more monstrous and inhuman than most of the people you stated, despite his gentle heart. Like everyone else he was also born human, merely with a latent gene that manifested later in his life.

#18 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: homo superior and Homo sapiens have been shown to preduce fertile offspring (like Professor X's son, Legion) so they'd be the same species (they also evolved on the sam eplanet as humans, and randomly are born by humans) anyways, being able to walk down the street without ignorant people freaking out is hardly a measure ofhumanity

and i'd consider Reed Richards a human, Spider-Man to(because both of them are still human in appearance and behavior)

Blonsky on the other hand became a huge abomination who often acts monstrous and is covered in sclaes, we're not sure oif he can still reproduce (we don't even know if he has genitals in his monstrous form) so he's been mutated to something other than human, by my book

#19 Posted by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: So your definition of human is "can reproduce with humans"?

That's pretty arbitrary.

In that case, meet these lovely human friends I just found. :D

Because the Neflords just LOVE reproducing with humans.

#20 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl:

and produce fertile offspring?

okay then. lets try to get down a definition in taht case

*from Earth

* either the child of two humans pr produced from human genetic material

* able to produce fertile offspring with humans

how's that for a definition?

#21 Edited by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: What proof do you have that The Leader cannot produce viable offspring?

Hulk fathered Skaar with an alien, for cryin' out loud, so clearly gamma radiation doesn't cause one to be infertile. If Leader were fully capable of fathering fertile offspring with a human, would that remove him from the list of viable candidates for "greatest non-human scientist"?

Also, what about that story where Peter Parker tries to have a child with MJ and his radioactive spunk kills her? That would slap him back on the list.

#22 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: oh god, I'm sorrry, I forgot about the Comicbook tendency to have reproductive laws as whatever the writers want wheneevr they want

so maybe Leader should count as still being human in that case, and I wasn't sure if the whole miscarriage arcwas still cannon

#23 Edited by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: Not sure if it still is either. But I think it makes my point.

My point being, in comics, deciding what is "human" and what isn't borders on impossibility. Hence, I chose characters who were quite clearly inhuman merely by a cursory glance at them.

#24 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: I can see the rationale behind that, but for this forum I'd rather you chose charcaters whose origins don't trace back to humanity

#25 Posted by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: cool

and srry if I came of as rude

#27 Posted by Joygirl (20854 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: No prob. Guidelines are just insanely vague. Now that they are cleared people should be able to make more accurate choices.

#28 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio

@xanni15: does Thanos have any serious science feats?

#29 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

This guy right here!

#30 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7728 posts) - - Show Bio