Everyone wants to know who would in a fight between, Goku
and Superman but, we will do this death battles way, only using different
feats. We also won’t use power levels or power scaling, since death battle made
a good point as to why not too. The battle is based off of Goku’s training and
experience and biology. However, we will use power scaling for techniques Goku
shares with others in the series. If Kid Buu’s Kamehameha can destroy a planet,
and Goku has a more powerful version of the same technique, its safe to assume Goku’s
could arguably destroy something bigger.
Ki is according to Kanzenshuu “Made up of things such as vigor, courage, and
one’s true mind.” It’s essentially life energy. And as Death Battle stated as
well, Ki isn’t magic. Goku can manipulate his Ki into various techniques.
The spirit bomb only works against evil opponents, but Goku
can absorb its energy.
His most powerful techniques are the Dragon Fist and the
Variants of Kamehameha
-Jet: Propels Goku
Bending: Directed in mid air
Super: Planet busting power
Dragon Shot: Shot as spheres
10x-Max output of SSj4 Goku.
Goku also has other uses of Ki manipulation.
(Instant Transmission is actually instant, faster than
Goku has a finite pool of ki energy but has techniques that
multiply his reserves to increase them.
This technique is the Kaioken.
-Taught to him by the North Kai
-Multiplies ki and physical power
-Too much strain could be fatal
-Amount of multiplication is controlled
(The strain on his body was later negated, when King Kai
stated throughout his whole fight with Frieza’s final form Goku was using the
Kaioken x10. It only strained him when he used the 20x.)
-Expands and Contracts on command
-Flies at Mach 1.5
-Instantly heals any injury
-Great Ape: Base power x10
-Super Saiyan: Base power x50
-Super Saiyan 2: SSJ1 x2
Super Saiyan 3: SSJ2 x4
Super Saiyan 4: GT Goku’s SSJ3 x10
Goku can in fact breathe in space, as evidence will be his
new movie. Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods.
Superman’s power source is the sun. He uses the sun to
constantly absorb power.
-Yellow sun increases his power
-Red Sun slowly decreases his power
-Blue Sun doubles his power
The closer his is to the sun, the stronger its effect.
After a sun dip or charging in the sun, Superman was able to
effortlessly move planets.
He has super senses such as:
(Heat vision drains his solar power, quickly especially when
Infinite Mass Punch
-Acceleration to near light speed creates a relativistic
-Impact equivalent to 10 Octillion Megatons
-Uses a lot of energy from Superman
-Easily destroys a planet
-Speed Force regulates durability if necessary
(In comparison, the Tsar Bomb the Nuclear device ever tested
only had an impact of 50 megatons. In order to equal Superman’s infinite mass
punch, it would take 200 septillion Tsar Bombs.)
-Perfect Photographic memory
Taught Kryptonian knowledge by Jor-El
-Torquasm Rao and Torquasm Vo
-Mental protection against mind tricks and psychic powers
Superman can withstand 10 Octillion tons of force.
(Anything like that 10 supernovas’ feat is PIS, if it were
10 Supernova’s it would’ve destroyed the moon.)
The strength needed to pull a planet in a vacuum is .001 of
The earth Weighs in at 6.6 Sextillion tons. This means
Superman is powerful enough to lift 6.6 quintillion tons.
Superman was timed and was able to fly to the sun and back
in under two minutes which is 9.4 billion km/hr. or 3.9 billion miles/hr.
According to Batman, Superman can fly at 17 billion
kilometers per hour. But no math behind it.
All of Superman’s abilities have been measured but Goku’s
After watching Death Battle’s calculations of Goku’s
strength I noticed they used one of the gag feats as a way to accurately
measured Goku’s strength. Goku’s best strength feat is arguably in episode 234,
when he threw a cube of Katchin. In DBZ Katchin was said to be the densest
metal in the universe. Our densest true
metal osmium, weighs 1350 lbs. per cubic foot. That cube was at least 250 cubic
foot and Goku was in base form. Do the math that comes out the 168 tons without
Super Saiyan. Multiply that by 50x for SSJ, then that x2 for SSJ2, then that by
x4 for SSJ3. This puts us at 67,500 tons in SSJ3 in the Buu Saga.
what Death Battle did and forgot was that, between the point Goku became SSJ3
and he discovered SSJ4. Goku trained, a lot. It was over 10 years and Goku was
able to fight a being who was equal to his SSJ3 form in the Buu Saga in base
form.(Evidence is the 28 Tenkaichi Budokai, Goku vs. Uub who is as powerful as
Kid Buu.) This would mean through training
for 10 years, Goku was able to surpass his limits and become as powerful as he
used to need transformations to achieve. However, Goku still has the ability to
use these transformations and they would multiply his new strength by their
respective multipliers. If Goku can now lift 67,500 tons in base form then you
multiply that by 50x, then x2, and then x4 for SSJ3. We have now, 27,000,000 or
27 million tons. Now, you can do the 10x for SSJ4 which would put you at
27,000,000,000 or 27 billion tons. Using Goku’s highest end feat, we find he is
far stronger than Death Battle made him out to be but still less than Superman.
But if you wanted, you could multiply this x20 incase Goku used the Kaioken or
factor what it would do if he absorbed a spirit bomb.
Now for Goku’s speed. Again they use base Goku’s feats all
the way from the saiyan Saga to use for GT. Everyone knows Goku’s base form is
stronger is the Frieza Saga than the Saiyan saga. So for all of our purposes
base Goku’s best speed feat is in DBZ episode 85, Goku flew from one side of Namek to the
other. Namek was stated to be 11x the size of Earth and the Earth has a
circumference of 40,075 km. Meaning, Namek would have a circumference of
440,825 km. We know Goku didn’t circle the whole thing, but rather half of it.
So divide that by 2. To get the distance of halfway across Namek which Goku
flew. He flew 220,412 km in only 21
seconds! So to get his speed per second we would need to divide 220,412 by 21.
We get 10,495 km/sec. This was in his base form, so we factor every Super
But we cannot just go into SSJ4. Because once again, in the
time Goku discovered SSJ3 and SSJ4 he was able to achieve power of SSJ3 in Buu
Saga in base form. Meaning SSJ3 Goku Buu Saga=GT Goku base form. We know this
because SSJ3 Goku lost to Buu. GT Goku defeated his reincarnation and trained
him. Goku didn’t lose these transformations, and they now multiply his
increased power. So if GT Goku was equal to old SSJ3 Goku in base, then would
use that speed as the starting point.
GT SSJ1-2,099,116,400 km/sec
GT SSJ2-4,198,232,800 km/sec
GT SSJ3-16,792,931,200 km/sec
Now we can go to SSJ4. So we take 16 billion, 792 million,
931 thousand, and 200 km per second and multiply it by 10.
GT SSJ4- 167,929,312,000 km/sec!
That’s 167 billion, 929 million, 312 thousand km per second!
To put that into perspective, light only travels 300, 000 km per second. This
means Goku can fly at 55, 9764 times faster than light!!
Superman may be stronger, but Goku takes the cake for speed.
So comparing these side by side
Strength-GT SSJ4 Goku’s 27,000,000,000tons < Superman’s
Speed-GT SSJ4 Goku’s 167,929,312,000 km/sec > Superman’s
This time I used a measurable feat, without using any assumptions.