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It was incredible tough to vote between the two, but MARVEL's The Avengers for me. They're both really great movies; CA: TWS was more of a political thriller/spy-esque film; The Avengers was more of a straight-up action packed comic book film that actually felt like a comic. The Avengers dared to do what no comic book ever dared to do before - it set up years of build-up behind it, and then they included all of our favourite characters (Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Black Widow, Iron Man, and Hawkeye) onto the big screen. All characters (save for Hawkeye) were done justice.
The performances were all great - they brought the characters to live, the action was fantastic and the dialogue was well written. The interaction between characters was great - and they further helped develop the story. The finale in which we followed all the heroes in battle was brilliantly constructed, and each battle added to the story.
The soundtrack was brilliant - the Avengers theme, I still consider the MARVEL anthem - when an OST played, it really helped add to the scene drastically. Joss Whedon's a confident director, well adapted this characters and choosing just well what he'd include in the script. No character outshined the others (okay... maybe Hulk did).
Great soundtrack, great script, great direction and great characterization.
the Avengers movie had some undeniably awesome movie moments, i mean, who doesnt love the scene where Hulk lays the smackdown on Loki?! But Winter Soldier had great action and a good story and a good shocking twist for those unfamiliar with comicbook lore regarding winter soldier.
Cap 2 could as easily be named Secret Avengers.
While Avengers will be a historical film for comic book fans, I think Cap 2 was the superior movie. Cap 2 didn't have even one weak scene, it was made in a way that it kept you to the edge of your seat. The balance between the characters was great and the chemistry between Black Widow and Captain America was the best I have seen between two Super-heroes in the big screen. Also all the actors were more familiar to their roles.
The plot of Cap 2 was incredible and the reveal in the middle of the movie was completely unexpected as opposed to the very formulaic plot of The Avengers. The Avengers had some plot holes and at least one third of the movie was very meh compared to the other.
Now I love both but Cap 2 is the greatest MARVEL movie.
I haven't commented on anything so I thought this would be a nice place to start. I voted Winter Soldier.
Avengers was a great movie that not only brought the MCU together perfectly, it also felt like a comic book brought to life. It always annoyed me when I watched comic book movies where the characters felt watered down. Of course effects have evolved a long way and I understand that plays a huge part, but I got tired of seeing a hero perform one or two feats and then appear as a regular person for the majority of a movie. Avengers not only showed each character off but Whedon used the whole city and made me believe they were a powerful team. The moments where Ironman transitions from flying around to battling with Cap and showing off the repulsor/shield combo or Hulk and Thor teaming up on the big alien creature. These scenes felt like super humans instead dudes that just so happened to have extra powers.
Sadly there were parts of the movie where it felt like a CW or WB tv show. I felt like the acting and effects elevated the movie. Winter Soldier might have not been the most profound or ground breaking cinema experience but for me it felt like a well rounded movie. The story was a great adaptation that completely fit in with what's currently going on in the world and never felt heavy handed nor did it dip into campiness. The dialogue was fun and delivered well. Plus I absolutely loved Stan's WS. Both him and Evans owned those roles. Actually everyone killed it with their characters.
Honestly Avengers and Winter Soldier are pretty even but the script and acting really push WS to the top.
Although I absolutely love both movies I love Captain America: The Winter Soldier more. It had a better story with the whole HYDRA having infiltrated SHIELD from its founding. The characters both old and new were absolutely at the top of their game, and the dynamic between Captain America and the Winter Soldier was absolutely amazing. Lastly, the action was some of the best I've seen in a long time. Although Avengers: Age of Ultron, Captain America 3, and Avengers 3 might surpass it as of now Captain America: The Winter Soldier is my favorite movies of all time.
I love both, but Avengers takes it. Its my favorite Marvel movie simply because it was the first successful superhero movie crossover. I still remember the huge line outside the movie theater, people couldn't wait to see the Avengers.The joy I felt when they all came together at the end, Ironman fought with Cap, then Hulk fought with Thor, then Cap fought with Thor. Everyone got a chance to shine and you don't feel like anyone was left out of the action. Avengers ftw.
Cap. Avengers has little "rewatch-ability" for me. Everything about it is fun the first couple times, but there's little reason to go back 4, 5, 6, etc times over. I'm sure someone will get butthurt but I frankly think its a fairly shallow movie (especially given the Coulson retcon...)
Cap I've seen 4 times in theaters and I enjoyed it each time and am looking forward to seeing it again more when it comes out on video.
Captain America, far and away for me. Winter Soldier had an actual in depth plot with twists and turns. On the other hand, the Avengers had almost no plot and a villain that could have been traded out for any other from Avengers history.
Loki: "I'm the trickster god."
The Avengers: "So what is your grand scheme?"
Loki: "I am going to open a portal and have some aliens invade."
I liked them both, but Winter Soldier was a bit better. Wasn't over the top with special effects, had a better plot, and a more insidious villain. The stunts were extremely well done in Winter Soldier as well. I won't soon forget the captain landing on his shoulder after a 30 story drop.
i guess bucky fans take this . :'(
C'mon people really? No love for the avengers? I mean I loved cap! It's rated my #3 movie of all time! But avengers (my #2 movie of all time) beats it still! Cap was amazing but not on the same level as avengers!
The poll has been open for less than 2 hours and it'll be open for many more days. It's far too early to throw in the towel!
Captain America: The Winter Soldier and The Avengers sit at number two and three in my favorite comic book films of all time. The only one that sits above them is The Dark Knight. So, I give my vote to The Winter Soldier by a narrow margin. I absolutely adore both of these movies though.
I feel a bit vindicated for being in the "Avengers, good but over-rated crowd" from day one. Two years ago, it would have been unthinkable for The Avengers to not win any movie poll by a landslide. Some folks said "Wait a minute, tis movie is fun, but as time goes on, it will be regarded less and less highly." That seems to be the case. And while I realize time diminishes everything (In 2 years, TWS won't be as highly regarded as it is now either.) It takes something very special in any form of entertainment to stand the test of time, and I don't think The Avengers had that something special. In fact, out of all the Comic-book superhero movies, I'm thinking Iron Man and The Dark Knight might the only two from the last decade that will.
I'm surprised to see the way this one is going. I really loved both movies. They were both awesome but I still recall the nerdgasm I got from the trailers to watching The Avengers twice in one day. It was wonderful. Like Christmas when I was a child. Winter Soldier was super cool and like I said, I love both, but I didn't get the same feel even though it is probably the best movie I've seen this year, hands down. I had to pick Avengers. I loved it just a smidge more than Winter Soldier. Only a smidge.
Placing my vote with Winter Soldier. That movie just had it all, man. Action, great plot and character development, terrific acting. The Avengers was the big conclusion to what Marvel had been building up to at that point, so that movie brings with it that sort of satisfaction, and while I completely loved it, I felt like there was more that could be done in terms of character work. I guess at that point the characters had been established enough in previous films, and the focus was on the team rather than any individual. That's how that movie should be, so I'm not complaining. Winter Soldier, however, dives deep these characters and makes them tangible and real. The movie had this incredible depth to it that you didn't quite find in Avengers. It's rare that a movie comes along where you end up rooting for the villain at the end, and Winter Soldier was one of 'em. That's the kind of depth I'm talkin' about, folks. Real great stuff.
While Avengers was a fun movie, Winter Soldier was a great film.
Winter Soldier is a fantastic movie, but still Avengers for me.
Seeing MARVEL's big 3 Cap, Iron Man and Thor on the big screen together during the forrest scene was amazing. Iron Man vs Thor, Hulk vs Thor, Cap quarterbacking the final battle! Dammit, I'ma go watch that movie now!
I'm a fan of a good story, especially if its a mystery. Captain America had the better storyline, the whole "Who is the Winter Soldier?" and "Who really runs SHIELD?" were great. Both movies had great action scenes, funny quips, but Captain America had better character development and dynamic. Avengers just has too many characters for significant development.
I see The Winter Soldier hype train is still going. Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant film and one of my favourite CBMs but I didn't think Winter Soldier would be this much ahead of Avengers. Shows what I know.
Avengers, or Avengers Assemble as it was called in Britain, for me. Whilst The Winter Soldier brought a lot of solid ideas, Avengers tied together the Marvel Cinematic Universe in a coherent, enjoyable and continuity established way that met my expectations for the film. Winter Soldier worked well with its premise but it followed from the tying together that The Avengers brought about.
This is such a close call. I love both films but i dont like sitting on the fence. We need to examine not just the films themselves but the effect they both had on the Marvel Cinematic universe.
Avengers was a classic the second it came out, delivering what was promised to us in the credits scene of the pile of awesome that was iron man. It was simply the best comic book movie that had ever been seen. It joined the characters from all the stand alone films, and because of the solo entries, Avengers did not need to focus too much on character development or waste time worrying about plot, it just got on with the job of dishing out action set peice after set peice. Most action films would kill for just a few of the scenes that avengers showed us. It also set the bench mark for every comic book movie to come, and showed what can be acheived with the proper foundations.
Winter soldier on the other hand is a more subtle masterpiece. Yes it has some massive destruction and some very well choriographed fights, but more than that was the plot that kept people interested in what the outcome. How could it have gone so horribly wrong for S.H.I.E.L.D.? What happened in this film changed the game for the MCU and was great with the support from Agents Of Shield, seeing it all unfold from the perspectives of the top players as well as the lower rank agents. Non comic readers (which lets face it, are 90% of the audience) genuinely didn't know the twists were coming, which adds a lot to the impact the movie has.
As said, i don't like sitting on the fence, so my vote goes to Avengers, the best use of action, witty lines and A-list actors so far seen on the big screen, and the best Hulk too.