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Posted by k4tzm4n (44390 posts) 1 month, 11 days ago

Poll: Favorite Movies VOTING: Batman Begins vs. The Dark Knight Rises (477 votes)

Batman Begins 58%
The Dark Knight Rises 30%
I can't choose... I like them both equally 7%
Sorry, I'm not a fan of either movie 5%
It brings me great shame to admit I haven't watched these movies and I won't be able to before Friday 0%

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Seeing as Bruce Wayne, a.k.a. Batman, is our latest Character of the Month, we want to reflect the hero's cinematic history. A vast majority consider The Dark Knight to be the best Batman live-action movie, but what about the other two films by director Christopher Nolan? Do they prefer the introduction or departure of Christian Bale's Batman?

In 2005, Batman Begins brought the Caped Crusader back to the big screen and showed moviegoers how Wayne transformed into Batman. 7 years later, Nolan completed his story with The Dark Knight Rises and once again had Bruce locked in a huge conflict with the League of Shadows and its desire to destroy Gotham City. Which tale do you prefer, though? They're obviously quite different when it comes to the messages within the narratives, development with the iconic hero, and focus on Wayne's supporting cast and villains, but if you had to side with one, which would it be and why? Don't worry, you can totally cop-out and say you like -- or dislike -- them equally!

For many, this won't be an easy decision to make and the last thing we want to do is rush you. So, there's no need to worry or make up your mind just yet because we're leaving the poll open until Friday morning (ET). Hopefully that will give you more than enough time to reflect or even rewatch these two movies.

After you've made up your mind, we want to hear from you. Why did you vote a certain way? What is it about the options that made them standout to you? Perhaps it was a certain character arc? Maybe you found one of the stories to be more compelling? Was the supporting cast stronger in one of these? You thought a specific action scene was memorable? Or maybe it boils down to simply liking the villains more in one of the films? Whatever the reasons may be, we encourage you to leap into the comments and share your thoughts with the world. Make the post exceptional enough and there's a chance we'll feature it in the updated article. Well, which will it be, Viners?

Check the homepage this Friday to see how the voting ends up and why. In the meantime, feel free to make future match-up suggestions in the comments below or tell us via Twitter.

#1 Edited by Fallschirmjager (17605 posts) - - Show Bio

Overall BB.

Better story, better villain (no offense to Hardy, love the dude but the voice sucked ass), better character progression and better plot.

TDKR gets hated on too much though and is not without its strengths. It had the best action scenes (waaay better than BB especially) and unlike the previous two films which had a notable weakness in lead female character, TDKR easily stomps both BB and TDK in this category.

Also TDKR missed Alfred a lot imo. Although it was understandable from a story perspective why he left, the second half of the movie messed his presence.

#2 Posted by EyeDCyou (1686 posts) - - Show Bio

I always have trouble picking which of these two I like better...

I went with BB because I love the way Nolan executed Bruce's origin, from attempting to kill Joe Chill to training directly under Ra's al Ghul, I just thought it was brilliant. I wish BB would've been filmed more on location however, because a lot of it was filmed in a studio, which afterwards Nolan said he never wanted to do again.

#3 Posted by toplel (917 posts) - - Show Bio

TDKR tried to do too much and a lot of it seemed unnecessary.

@fallschirmjager said:

TDKR gets hated on too much though and is not without its strengths. It had the best action scenes (waaay better than BB especially) and unlike the previous two films which had a notable weakness in lead female character, TDKR easily stomps both BB and TDK in this category.

I actually preferred the stealth scenes in BB and TDK over the one in TDKR. The scene at the shipping yard and then in HK where he takes in Lao was better than the scene in the sewers.

#4 Posted by micah (1402 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going with Begins. To me it was a perfect Batman origin story.

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#5 Edited by Fallschirmjager (17605 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel said:

TDKR tried to do too much and a lot of it seemed unnecessary.

@fallschirmjager said:

TDKR gets hated on too much though and is not without its strengths. It had the best action scenes (waaay better than BB especially) and unlike the previous two films which had a notable weakness in lead female character, TDKR easily stomps both BB and TDK in this category.

I actually preferred the stealth scenes in BB and TDK over the one in TDKR. The scene at the shipping yard and then in HK where he takes in Lao was better than the scene in the sewers.

The shipping yard scene is one of the worst action scenes I have ever seen. The part where he fights gangsters is nothing but sound affects and a camera spinning around a mosh pit.

I liked the Lao scene though and the final fight vs the swat team.

But his first fight with Bane was the best action scene of the trilogy imo

#6 Edited by detective38 (180 posts) - - Show Bio

Although not at all accurate to the original comic content i still enjoyed begins the best of the whole trilogy

#7 Posted by AmazingWebHead (2546 posts) - - Show Bio

Two "character of the month" polls in one day?

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#8 Posted by Outside_85 (9054 posts) - - Show Bio

Being honest, I like Begins much better than Dark Knight or Dark Knight Rises.

#9 Posted by toplel (917 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: I was actually referring to the part where he takes out the few thugs before the 'mosh pit' scene; the stealth part. You also have to consider that the suit in BB didn't allow him the flexibility the TDK/TDKR suit did, so it'd have been a challenge shooting action scenes in it.

And yeah, the fight scene against the SWAT team was pretty cool too.

The fight with Bane, though, came off short. Like the time he tries to use a smoke bomb and it just gives about as much smoke as a firecracker. It looked kinda silly.

#10 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (2009 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Begins, Sure Tom Hardy's Bane from TDKR was one hell of a performance and their first actual confrontation might be the greatest superhero movie battle of all time but it was way too long for my taste and overstayed its welcome.

Begins, However, brought back the greatness of Batman movies and is probably my favorite superhero origin movie

#11 Posted by Chaos Burn (1784 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Begins, not only because it was more enjoyable, but it was refreshing in establishing a new spin on superhero movies with it's realism and grittier tone, before TDKR focused on the political/terrorism threats of the day rather than relatable, developed characters (Bane/Catwoman).

I mean, Rhas al Ghul was a multi-layered bad guy who actually convinced me he felt he was doing the right thing, whereas Bane struggled to follow Heath Ledgers acclaim and became a better meme than a villain.

#12 Posted by entropy_aegis (15324 posts) - - Show Bio

Rises,though I dont expect CV will share my opinion,this site seems to have it in for that movie but critical consensus is TDK>TDKR>BB.

#13 Posted by PunyParker (11122 posts) - - Show Bio

LIked both.

Begins is the first "serious" Batman film i saw,and said "Wow,Batman's the real deal...."

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#14 Edited by Fallschirmjager (17605 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel: ah okay. yeah that was good. the part where he summons Bats was cool too.

Plus although haters like to cry about his voice, Bale's "I'm Batman" is easily the best to date.

#15 Posted by SoA (4838 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman 3 is a better batman movie than dark knight rises

#16 Posted by toplel (917 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: His voice did at times come off as him trying too hard, but it wasn't too big of a complaint, really. And yeah, agreed on the second part.

#17 Posted by RustyRoy (12772 posts) - - Show Bio

LIked both.

Begins is the first "serious" Batman film i saw,and said "Wow,Batman's the real deal...."

#18 Posted by MrTummyTumms (545 posts) - - Show Bio

TDKR for me. One of my favorite movies ever.

#19 Edited by RustyRoy (12772 posts) - - Show Bio

Also Bale's performance was best in BB>

#20 Posted by MrDirector786 (43561 posts) - - Show Bio

The Dark Knight Rises. In fact, it's actually my personal favorite of the three movies, and (I know this is going to get me so much hate) it's even my personal favorite superhero movie in general.

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#21 Posted by Thorverine (402 posts) - - Show Bio

Tough call, but I prefer Dark Knight Rises. It's easier to move the film as a quicker pace, since Batman Begins needed to develop the back story. To me though they are part of the same story, with The Dark Knight, a movie I really liked, kind of getting in the way. Batman vs. The League of Shadows is the best Batman theme.

The key moments are very similiar, but yet different enough for me to prefer Rises.

Bruce climbs the mountain to become Batman/Bruce climbs out of prison to conclude Batman

One on one fight in a train with a previously superior nemesis/Wild street brawl with a previously superior nemesis

#22 Posted by PunyParker (11122 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

Also Bale's performance was best in BB>

Yeah.....i actually was invested before he became Batman......only film i didn't say "C'mon,where's *insert superhero's name* already!?!"

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#23 Posted by Kerrigan (234 posts) - - Show Bio

BB works as an enjoyable movie. DKR is its own weird brutal thing, an impressive act of creation but not really fun.

Of the three, Batman Begins is the only one I've watched (or wanted to watch) more than once.

#24 Posted by mje360 (63 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Begins. It was not only a fresh new take on the hero we had come to know in a time when reboots when weren't so common, it was the redemption of a franchise that been ruined for what it should have been but was not when it was in Joel Schumacher's hands. Batman Begins has such a solid cast, and prefer Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. I loved Liam Neeson as Ra's Al Ghul, though it was not entirely who the character was, the new take was something that respectable, and Liam's delivery was something that great to pit him up against Bruce Wayne who was played by Christian Bale. I think in Batman Begins, all of the actors and writers deliver their best as it was the startup of something new. The story took notes from Batman: Year One. How often did we see a more realistic take on a character that been portrayed than larger than life dealing with real life villains such city thugs and addicts and mob? To make it interesting, the Scarecrow as added and I feel like that the villain brought the psychological factor that the made the movie feel darker, and the characters's first live screen appearance. More importantly to me, as I feel passionate about Batman Begins more than the other movies of the franchise, Batman Begins really showed great purpose and reasons why and how Bruce Wayne would become Batman. How often was the Wayne family ever included in anything, and more importantly show you reasons you need to care. This movie was great. Who could forget the first moment Batman showed his face to the mob boss and told him in his gritty voice, "I'm Batman." and then the brutality afterward. AWESOME.

Also, the soundtrack was superior here as Batman Begins had both James Horner and Hans Zimmer which amounted some spectacularly emotional and exciting tracks that still like to listen today.

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#25 Edited by zaied (828 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked Rises more than most, apparently, but Batman Begins was the perfect origin story, had a captivating tone, and is arguably the best CBM out there.

#26 Posted by n25philly (96 posts) - - Show Bio

Easy choice, begins was actually good

#27 Posted by roboadmiral (546 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Begins by a country mile. Not that I didn't like the Dark Knight Rises. Even including the much lauded Dark Knight, Batman Begins is my favorite of the trilogy. I'm not saying that it's necessarily the best movie of the three, but it is my favorite. The stand out factor is that it seems to be the only one where Batman actually wants to be Batman.

#28 Posted by RustyRoy (12772 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

Also Bale's performance was best in BB>

Yeah.....i actually was invested before he became Batman......only film i didn't say "C'mon,where's *insert superhero's name* already!?!"

Agreed and it was even better when he became Batman.

#29 Edited by entropy_aegis (15324 posts) - - Show Bio

The Dark Knight Rises. In fact, it's actually my personal favorite of the three movies, and (I know this is going to get me so much hate) it's even my personal favorite superhero movie in general.

High five.

#30 Posted by patrat18 (9791 posts) - - Show Bio

When Batman told Ras he wasn't gonna save him and glided of the train......So awesome.

#31 Posted by Jonez120 (4413 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Begins. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Rises. But the performances of Neeson and Murphy stole my heart.

#32 Posted by PunyParker (11122 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

@punyparker said:

@rustyroy said:

Also Bale's performance was best in BB>

Yeah.....i actually was invested before he became Batman......only film i didn't say "C'mon,where's *insert superhero's name* already!?!"

Agreed and it was even better when he became Batman.

The rush the scene on the docks gave me,can't be compared with anything......everytime i watch it.

".....WHERE ARE YOU?!!!"
" Here."

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#33 Posted by Black_Arrow (3157 posts) - - Show Bio

Rises,though I dont expect CV will share my opinion,this site seems to have it in for that movie but critical consensus is TDK>TDKR>BB.

#34 Posted by Black_Arrow (3157 posts) - - Show Bio

The Dark Knight Rises. In fact, it's actually my personal favorite of the three movies, and (I know this is going to get me so much hate) it's even my personal favorite superhero movie in general.

#35 Edited by MadeinBangladesh (6928 posts) - - Show Bio

DARK KNIGHT RISES> I LOVED THAT MOVIE.

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#36 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5063 posts) - - Show Bio

I own the trilogy an BB is the most played out of the 3.

#37 Posted by vandinejd_1991 (297 posts) - - Show Bio

Holy indecision Batman!!!

Both movies were great to me that I can't decide between them. The actors in both movies, old and new, gave some of the greatest performances in CBM history. There was good storytelling in both movies as well as Batman Begins tell of Batman's rise, and TDKR tells of his redemption after he had fallen in The Dark Knight. Lastly, there was great action in both movies, although I think The Dark Knight Rises fares better in that category since towards the end of Batman Begins it suffered from shaky cam.

However, there are two scenes in both movies that is the cause of my indecision because when I see them I'm screaming YEAHHH in my head. They both occur in kind of the same context with Batman revealing his secret identity to someone. In Batman Begins it's when he says to Rachel, "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me." Then in TDKR it's when he says to Comissioner Gordon "a hero can be anyone even someone doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders to let him know the world hadn't ended." Those are some of the most amazing Batman quotes ever.

#38 Edited by TheCannon (18794 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved Begins, but Rises is (to me) the 2nd best comic film ever made, so that gets my vote.

#39 Posted by MrMazz (1237 posts) - - Show Bio

On one hand you have basically the best structured origin film in Batman Begins. On the other you have The Dark Knight Rises a film that goes for the epic and personal (and a whole bunch of other stuff) but most importantly finality which is such a novelty in this blockbuster never ending culture and comics.

In the end however Batman Begins is an overall stronger film structurally and more important to the larger cannon of the comic book film than The Dark Knight Rises. Begins is a film that is typical Nolan realist filmmaker because he creates rules (and than breaks them) by explaining how a superhero would function first and largely eschewing its villians to the perfiery until needed by the demands of the story.

The Dark Knight Rises is a giant film that is perhaps 15 seconds too long. But it tries to meld the two ides of Nolan's Batman films together - the comic book ninjas of Begins with the more grounded crime social commentary side of The Dark Knight. All the while functioning as a great adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns (issues 1&2) on top of a whole bunch of other Batman refernces. This was an attempt to truly make Batman legend while still ending the series(which is still such a novel idea in comic book movies).

Honestly if I were to write a book about Nolan's career I would probably use these two films as book ends for his Hollywood big break. As the end points for 7 years and 5 films you can see how much he has grown in terms of staging action and ability to intergrate digital and practical effects to meet his needs.

#40 Posted by The Stegman (24461 posts) - - Show Bio

TDKR

#41 Posted by G_leno (1013 posts) - - Show Bio

That this is even a question is laughable. Batman begins is at least a well made film with decent storylines, decent villain in the form of Neeson's Ra's, and its got a good approach to the Origin even if its not wholey accurate to the comics we love. The only real down sides to Begins is Scarecrow who was so lame i cringe when i see him.

Rises is a plot hole laden mess with a terrible Bane that just rode the wave of success that the previous film created.

#42 Posted by SHAZAM117 (3025 posts) - - Show Bio

spite

#43 Posted by SynCig (442 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a really easy pick for me. While I still really enjoy The Dark Knight Rises, it was most definitely the weakest of the trilogy. Batman Begins takes this match-up. I loved the re-imagining of Batman's training and the way they handled it felt very true to the character. There is one moment towards the end of the movie that doesn't exactly stay true to the character but I still love Batman Begins.

#44 Posted by comicace3 (5351 posts) - - Show Bio

Easy. Batman Begins. The Dark Knight Rise had more plot holes than a cheddar cheese with holes in it.

#45 Posted by Jphu8414 (3747 posts) - - Show Bio

I realize I'm going to be in the minority when I say this one but I liked The Dark Knight Rises better. The first half of the movie was a little bit slow, but the second half with the whole city being under siege was incredible. Build up was incredible and the movie hits you in all the right emotional places. Tom Hardy as Bane was also an excellent choice and I actually prefer him over Ra's or Scarecrow in Begins. An excellent ending for an excellent trilogy.

#46 Edited by viin (582 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Begins was a great and well written movie. I also think the Batsuit looked the best in Begins.

#47 Posted by entropy_aegis (15324 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm willing to bet this plot hole crowd doesn't even know what a plot hole is cause if they did they'd all hate Geoff Johns and a whole host of successful writers with fury of a thousand suns.

#48 Posted by TDK_1997 (14896 posts) - - Show Bio

TDKR. Despite it's few plot holes the movie was as big as I thought it would be and as it wanted itself to be. I was beyond amazed when I saw the movie and I can say that is pretty close to the Dark Knight itself. Great movie, I just love it.

#49 Posted by Batman404 (98 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still waiting for a good Batman movie. So far they have all had stupid things that I can't overlook.

#50 Posted by manwithoutshame (654 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm casting my vote with Dark Knight Rises. Though neither film is a great cinematic accomplishment, DKR is infinitely more fun to watch. Bane chews up the scenery like a master. I can't get enough. Neeson's understated performance as one of the most over the top Batman villains is a waste of time. Scarecrow had some good gags in both films so that's also a draw. Bale is decidedly dull in each film, as he is for pretty much the entire trilogy so no edge there.

Begins featured about an hour on an origin that really wasn't all it was cracked up to be, the finale also did not impress or captivate. DKR plot was pretty much glorious nonsense of Bane owning Gotham and Bruce crawling out of a hole. Hey, at least it was fun to watch. As far as female leads Katie Holmes sucks so bad in Begins she was recast in the sequel and not one person in the world complained. Anne Hathaway was decent, but gives yet another annoyingly understated performance of a fantastic character. Where was Catwoman's skill set in that movie? All she did was a couple cartwheels and rode a motorcycle, ehh, at least she wasn't Katie Holmes I guess.