#1 Edited by danhimself (22543 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of people on here like to insult books that they don't like by saying that the writer is just "writing fanfiction". I don't get it. To me that should be exactly what professional writers should be doing. A writer should absolutely be a fan of the characters he's writing and if they aren't then what's the point? I also feel that this is an insult to the many amazing fanfiction writers I've seen here on Comic Vine and on other sites. So I have to ask what's the point of this insult? What are you getting at?

#2 Posted by McHotcakes (455 posts) - - Show Bio

Well generally fan fiction is something that anybody can write. And while it is true that there is good fan fiction, a lot of it just isn't very good. No one is taking the time to edit, proof read, or question the story and make sure it makes sense. A lot of fan fiction is written by people with little idea on how to actually write story and is generally motivated by "Wouldn't it so cool if this thing happened, even if it made no sense for it to happen?"

Again I don't want to over generalize as there are good fan fic writers out there, just the vast majority, at least that I have read butchers the source material soundly.

Long story short, fan fiction is generally seen as amateur writing and people getting paid to write stories should not overamp a character they like just because they like them. They should write what comes naturally given the character and scenario they are working with.

#3 Edited by Dabee (2391 posts) - - Show Bio

Well generally fan fiction is something that anybody can write. And while it is true that there is good fan fiction, a lot of it just isn't very good. No one is taking the time to edit, proof read, or question the story and make sure it makes sense. A lot of fan fiction is written by people with little idea on how to actually write story and is generally motivated by "Wouldn't it so cool if this thing happened, even if it made no sense for it to happen?"

Again I don't want to over generalize as there are good fan fic writers out there, just the vast majority, at least that I have read butchers the source material soundly.

Long story short, fan fiction is generally seen as amateur writing and people getting paid to write stories should not overamp a character they like just because they like them. They should write what comes naturally given the character and scenario they are working with.

This. Another important point, though, is that while some fan fiction may be written very well, it's often also featuring other properties outside of the company. (i.e. A spidey fanfic with Batman) That, or they are weird erotic fanfics. So yeah. (But not generalizing)

#4 Edited by batkevin74 (10787 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of people on here like to insult books that they don't like by saying that the writer is just "writing fanfiction". I don't get it. To me that should be exactly what professional writers should be doing. A writer should absolutely be a fan of the characters he's writing and if they aren't then what's the point? I also feel that this is an insult to the many amazing fanfiction writers I've seen here on Comic Vine and on other sites. So I have to ask what's the point of this insult? What are you getting at?

You should check out CV's own fan-fiction section, there's a lot of gold in them thar hills, stuff that at times should be in comics and we await the pipedream of being plucked to stardom :)

#5 Posted by Billy Batson (58024 posts) - - Show Bio

Any writer who's not the original writer is writing fan fiction.

And no, a good writer doesn't have to like the character (s)he's writing.

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#6 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself said:

A lot of people on here like to insult books that they don't like by saying that the writer is just "writing fanfiction". I don't get it. To me that should be exactly what professional writers should be doing. A writer should absolutely be a fan of the characters he's writing and if they aren't then what's the point? I also feel that this is an insult to the many amazing fanfiction writers I've seen here on Comic Vine and on other sites. So I have to ask what's the point of this insult? What are you getting at?

You should check out CV's own fan-fiction section, there's a lot of gold in them thar hills, stuff that at times should be in comics and we await the pipedream of being plucked to stardom :)

Definitely agree with this!!!

#7 Edited by JediXMan (30602 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not always a good thing for the writer to be a fan. If they are, there is usually a lot of pointless fanservice that does nothing for the story or the characters (similar to most fan fiction).

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#8 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

It's not always a good thing for the writer to be a fan. If they are, there is usually a lot of pointless fanservice that does nothing for the story or the characters (similar to most fan fiction).

I agree with this, especially if said writer is a huge fan of one character and they end up making the character stronger than what's really necessary.

#9 Edited by RustyRoy (12715 posts) - - Show Bio

Well generally fan fiction is something that anybody can write. And while it is true that there is good fan fiction, a lot of it just isn't very good. No one is taking the time to edit, proof read, or question the story and make sure it makes sense. A lot of fan fiction is written by people with little idea on how to actually write story and is generally motivated by "Wouldn't it so cool if this thing happened, even if it made no sense for it to happen?"

Again I don't want to over generalize as there are good fan fic writers out there, just the vast majority, at least that I have read butchers the source material soundly.

Long story short, fan fiction is generally seen as amateur writing and people getting paid to write stories should not overamp a character they like just because they like them. They should write what comes naturally given the character and scenario they are working with.

#10 Posted by MissJ (434 posts) - - Show Bio

Any writer who's not the original writer is writing fan fiction.

And no, a good writer doesn't have to like the character (s)he's writing.

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I disagree; I think paid professional writers who write characters/properties that they didn't originate are just work-for-hire writers on licensed properties. To me, the distinction between fanfiction and professional published work is that the former is not being asked by the owner of the IP to write that story (the "fan" part being the impetus for writing it, since it's not their job) and the latter is (regardless of whether or not they're a fan of the character, they're writing the book because they've been contracted to do so by the owner/publisher of that character).

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#11 Posted by Billy Batson (58024 posts) - - Show Bio

@missj said:

I disagree; I think paid professional writers who write characters/properties that they didn't originate are just work-for-hire writers on licensed properties. To me, the distinction between fanfiction and professional published work is that the former is not being asked by the owner of the IP to write that story (the "fan" part being the impetus for writing it, since it's not their job) and the latter is (regardless of whether or not they're a fan of the character, they're writing the book because they've been contracted to do so by the owner/publisher of that character).

Yes, yes. But I meant in the sense that the original creator and writer did the definite take on the property and everything else after it is "fan fiction". :p

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#12 Posted by MissJ (434 posts) - - Show Bio

@billy_batson: I still think they're different. I'd call the new creator's take on someone else's IP "derivative" perhaps, but not "fanfiction." If they're authorized and paid, not fanfic.

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#13 Posted by MissJ (434 posts) - - Show Bio

@billy_batson: And, further, the originators of characters aren't always the "definitive" names associated with them. Bob Kane created Batman, but if you ask people who the "definitive" Batman writer is, you'll hear a mix of Miller, O'Neill, etc, etc.

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#14 Edited by Z3RO180 (6538 posts) - - Show Bio

You know this can be applied to dan slott. He is fan and he is writing spiderman

#15 Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie (7984 posts) - - Show Bio

@z3ro180: No!!! Why did you have to go there, why?!?! :P

#16 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the difference between fan fiction and professional writing is that with professional writing, you are getting paid to write the stories and with fan fiction, you're not getting paid to write the stories. Also, people tend to associate fan fiction with writers who write their favorite characters so strong and powerful, when the story doesn't really need it and I can see how that can be insulting to anyone who loves to write fan fictions (I personally write a lot of fan fictions, but I also get annoyed whenever a professional writer writes a character so strong and can do no wrong when that's not really necessary for the character).