Dr. Doom is the Closest Marvel's Counterpart to Batman - Gen. Discussion

#1 Posted by adamrolls (35 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

-This is a repost from topic started last week on the Batman forum...Wanted to see what responses would be on the Doom Forum

It just dawned on me that Dr. Doom is the closest marvel counterpart to to Batman. So I know this needs some explanation. So here's why.

Both are geniuses
Both are determined to the point of obsession
Both always have contingency plan after contingency plan ( planning I think is both of these characters main "power")
Both have names and presence that strikes fear in those who encounter them
Both have have taken on gods fearlessly ( Beyonder, and Darkeseid)
Both use gadgets and inventions to even the playing ground
So although planning and strategizing ,I believe is both their main power, both are masters of their of peripheral Arts that aide them in their cause( Batman martial arts and Doctor Doom Sorcery)
Both are somewhat regal
Both rule in Machevelian fashion

Now to solidify my point... What about other popular choices for batman marvel counterparts? why not consider them the closest?

Punisher- I gotta admit I've always thought of him as a very close counterpart due to family dying and obssessive vengeance seeking and all. But although frank does present some flashes of cleverness, The most constant I've seen him approach villains is straight up attack attack attack. And if that fails attack some more. He is too straight forward. Too reliant on fire power
Daredevil- Too goody. Not regal. I don't think he has much presence in the marvel universe. He is a blue collar street level hero
Captain America. When it comes to martial arts and fitness steve and bruce are def counterparts. Cap definitely has a presence and has taken on cosmic threats kinda like bruce. But the presence that Cap gives is not fear or dread like batman its more like hope and goodness...Kinda like superman
Iron Man- both are millionaires. Both are geniuses. But Tony's genius is not in planning its in making more powerful and efficient suits.

Let me know if you think of other connections...or of if you think this theory is unsound

#2 Posted by Moonchilde (1368 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Black Panther is more like Batman then Doom is.

#3 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Moonchilde said:

Black Panther is more like Batman then Doom is.

Yeah...

#4 Posted by tupiaz (699 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Daredevil has plenty of times been serious and dark (Miller, Bendis and Brubaker). Also Daredevil handles a lot more serious crime than "blue color crime" taken down ninjas and crime syndicates, Also why is Moon Knight not mention?

#5 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (10461 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@adamrolls said:

-This is a repost from topic started last week on the Batman forum...Wanted to see what responses would be on the Doom Forum

It just dawned on me that Dr. Doom is the closest marvel counterpart to to Batman. So I know this needs some explanation. So here's why.
Both are geniuses
Both are determined to the point of obsession
Both always have contingency plan after contingency plan ( planning I think is both of these characters main "power")
Both have names and presence that strikes fear in those who encounter them
Both have have taken on gods fearlessly ( Beyonder, and Darkeseid)
Both use gadgets and inventions to even the playing ground
So although planning and strategizing ,I believe is both their main power, both are masters of their of peripheral Arts that aide them in their cause( Batman martial arts and Doctor Doom Sorcery)
Both are somewhat regal
Both rule in Machevelian fashion
Now to solidify my point... What about other popular choices for batman marvel counterparts? why not consider them the closest?
Punisher- I gotta admit I've always thought of him as a very close counterpart due to family dying and obssessive vengeance seeking and all. But although frank does present some flashes of cleverness, The most constant I've seen him approach villains is straight up attack attack attack. And if that fails attack some more. He is too straight forward. Too reliant on fire power
Daredevil- Too goody. Not regal. I don't think he has much presence in the marvel universe. He is a blue collar street level hero
Captain America. When it comes to martial arts and fitness steve and bruce are def counterparts. Cap definitely has a presence and has taken on cosmic threats kinda like bruce. But the presence that Cap gives is not fear or dread like batman its more like hope and goodness...Kinda like superman
Iron Man- both are millionaires. Both are geniuses. But Tony's genius is not in planning its in making more powerful and efficient suits.
Let me know if you think of other connections...or of if you think this theory is unsound

Maybe they are similar in terms of abilities and whatnot.

But I think when people compare Batman to other characters it is important to consider there character as well.And Doom and Batman are complete opposites when it comes down to that or certainly in most areas.Thats why I actually think he is closer to Cap in that regard.

I also wouldn't call Batman regal,it just Isn't a word I would use to describe him.

Also Batman doesn't really rule over anything like Doom does as Doom is literally the ruler of a small country while Bruce obviously isn't.

I dont get why people always try to find a match for Marvel and DC characters as Batman has similarities with all the characters listed above.

#6 Posted by PowerHerc (50967 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

I never thought about these two being alike but I see what you mean.

Good points.

#7 Posted by Pyrogram (11070 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

panther ftw

#8 Posted by grimlock (1564 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

@Moonchilde said:
Black Panther is more like Batman then Doom is.
Yeah...

true. Doom and bats have very glaring differences

#9 Posted by End_Boss (582 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

I'll probably get skinned alive for this, but at least in spirit I find Batman and Moon Knight somewhat similar. Street level justice, messed up in the head (with Moon Knight winning out for "most f&$%ed up psyche"), prefer to work alone (recent events in the Batverse notwithstanding)... I dunno. Maybe I just thought they were kinda similar one day and my brain couldn't let go of it.

#10 Posted by impossibilly (520 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Batman always wins. In this regard, Doom is his opposite. But maybe that's because Batman doesn't have to deal with that jerk, "RICHARRRDDDDSSSS!"

#11 Posted by dondave (7659 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Probably more like Black Panther