don't u think Daredevil would fit the role of Batman better?

#1 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

in a scenario in which Marvel beat Detective comics to the character of Batman, don't u think Matt Murdock would fit the role better?

think about it:-

1- he is blind (one of the characteristics of the bat) and a critical point in the conversation.

2- he depends on sonic waves (radar like) to feel his surroundings (hint at a bat? maybe)

2- he also lost his beloved ones, like Bruce lost his parents.

3- he also works in the night and in one of the darkest crime neighborhoods - hell's kitchen.

4- he is a lawyer, which makes the fact that he fights crime as a knight of justice, have more sense to it.

4- his character is as dark as Bruce, if not more.

5- he is far more agile than Batman, which gives him a point to me, and brings him closer to the simulation of a flight of a bat.

in my opinion Daredevil woul've been the perfect Batman, just give his suit to Matt Murdock, and we're set.

#2 Posted by kamakazi152 (133 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

The things that you have stated there does make sense somewhat, but Bruce is the worlds greatest detective which is what makes batman so great. He is also very intelligent and rich (way beyond that of a lawyer) which helps him develop all kinds of gadgets and awesome technology. So I can see where you were going with this, but I'm going to have to say I do not agree.

#3 Edited by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

everyone is entitled to their opinion, but just to clarify things. i said that if Marvel created Batman but as Matt Murdock. they may make him the same as Bruce. it's their creation. u get what i'm saying? i just think Matt Murdock would be better than Bruce Wayne. and nothing stops Marvel from giving Matt Murdock riches and technology, right?

#4 Posted by kamakazi152 (133 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

This is true I do see what your saying now. And I am sorry for being a bit of a fanboy earlier lol.

#5 Edited by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@kamakazi152 said:

This is true I do see what your saying now. And I am sorry for being a bit of a fanboy earlier lol.

it's OKay, ur reply makes sense and is better than what i was waiting for. on another forum, people are arguing over meaningless things and basically are driving me crazy, lol

#6 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (874 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@funckygarcon: Yes..Matt is more "Bat like"..and Bruce, it can be argued with his gadgets, explosives, and modes of transportation is more of a Daredevil. They could easily trade places.
#7 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (15613 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

#8 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Manwhohaseverything said:

@funckygarcon: Yes..Matt is more "Bat like"..and Bruce, it can be argued with his gadgets, explosives, and modes of transportation is more of a Daredevil. They could easily trade places.

hell yeah, that's my point and they will even be better if they switch places !! Matt Murdock as blind as a bat suits him, and the crazy modes of transportations of Batman suit a Daredevil.

#9 Posted by Vance Astro (88630 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Marvel already beat someone to the punch when they created Daredevil. The original Daredevil character was public domain so Stan Lee was free to create a character that was almost an exact copy accept he's blind and has a different origin. Daredevil does have more traits that make him comparable to Bats but DC never intended to really make him have anything in common with Bats, his original idea was loosely based on characters like Zorro & The Shadow or at the very least he has very similar traits to them.

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#10 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Marvel already beat someone to the punch when they created Daredevil. The original Daredevil character was public domain so Stan Lee was free to create a character that was almost an exact copy accept he's blind and has a different origin. Daredevil does have more traits that make him comparable to Bats but DC never intended to really make him have anything in common with Bats, his original idea was loosely based on characters like Zorro & The Shadow or at the very least he has very similar traits to them.

yes, i understand your point. i just imagine this scenario where Daredevil lands the role of Batman before Detective Comics think about it

#11 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

it's not the main characteristic here. everything else just screams Batman

#12 Posted by Vance Astro (88630 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@funckygarcon said:

yes, i understand your point. i just imagine this scenario where Daredevil lands the role of Batman before Detective Comics think about it

I feel like Stan Lee would have made him a Vampire or something. Just being blind and having radar sense isn't enough. I think the idea he was working off of with Daredevil was that blind people's other senses enhance by losing one but he took it a step further and completely exaggerated it. I don't think he ever made the connection that DD is kind of like a bat, they are blind but see by use of sound. I say all that to say that if Stan was working off the concept of a Bat he might really go for more Bat-like traits. He did have something to do with the creation of Spider-Man who (although he had to make the web-shooters himself) had all of the characteristics of a generic spider.
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#13 Posted by Vance Astro (88630 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@funckygarcon said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

it's not the main characteristic here. everything else just screams Batman

Batman wasn't dark when he was first created, he grew into that. So did Daredevil. Current creative teams are going back to how it was when Stan was in charge. DD is still bad ass, the comic is just a little more light-hearted. He's trying to deviate from what a whole host of other writers just did with the character.
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#14 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

i think Stan Lee could've easily made the connection between Daredevil and a bat, and maybe consider it. if not for DC already owning him, right?

#15 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

it's not the main characteristic here. everything else just screams Batman

Batman wasn't dark when he was first created, he grew into that. So did Daredevil. Current creative teams are going back to how it was when Stan was in charge. DD is still bad ass, the comic is just a little more light-hearted. He's trying to deviate from what a whole host of other writers just did with the character.

i agree

#16 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (15613 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@funckygarcon said:

@Vance Astro said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

it's not the main characteristic here. everything else just screams Batman

Batman wasn't dark when he was first created, he grew into that. So did Daredevil. Current creative teams are going back to how it was when Stan was in charge. DD is still bad ass, the comic is just a little more light-hearted. He's trying to deviate from what a whole host of other writers just did with the character.

i agree

I dont like the light hearted take on the character, it makes it seem like just another generic superhero book

#17 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Vance Astro said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

it's not the main characteristic here. everything else just screams Batman

Batman wasn't dark when he was first created, he grew into that. So did Daredevil. Current creative teams are going back to how it was when Stan was in charge. DD is still bad ass, the comic is just a little more light-hearted. He's trying to deviate from what a whole host of other writers just did with the character.

i agree

I dont like the light hearted take on the character, it makes it seem like just another generic superhero book

i fully agree, i hate Superheroes that are like Superman, so generic, so vanilla.

#18 Posted by Jnr6Lil (6556 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

No, Because Batman was created from Bruce Wayne.

#19 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Jnr6Lil said:

No, Because Batman was created from Bruce Wayne.

if he was created as Matt Murdock, would u complain about it? i think it makes sense

#20 Posted by Jnr6Lil (6556 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@funckygarcon said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

No, Because Batman was created from Bruce Wayne.

if he was created as Matt Murdock, would u complain about it? i think it makes sense

If he was created as Matt Murdock he'd be Daredevil.

#21 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

But the OP is suggesting that there is no Batman and Marvel beat DC to the punch in making Batman...and that Batman is Matt Murdock.He's not taking Batman's already established role. (quote of Vance Astro)

just to clarify things

#22 Posted by Vance Astro (88630 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I dont like the light hearted take on the character, it makes it seem like just another generic superhero book

I understand. Alot of people liked the more darker Daredevil but any way you cut it, Daredevil's book is going to be similar to that of another character. 
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#23 Posted by funckygarcon (179 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

I dont like the light hearted take on the character, it makes it seem like just another generic superhero book

I understand. Alot of people liked the more darker Daredevil but any way you cut it, Daredevil's book is going to be similar to that of another character.

u gotta admit that generic and vanilla superheroes are boring, right?

#24 Posted by daredevil21134 (7468 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Vance Astro said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

it's not the main characteristic here. everything else just screams Batman

Batman wasn't dark when he was first created, he grew into that. So did Daredevil. Current creative teams are going back to how it was when Stan was in charge. DD is still bad ass, the comic is just a little more light-hearted. He's trying to deviate from what a whole host of other writers just did with the character.

i agree

I dont like the light hearted take on the character, it makes it seem like just another generic superhero book

Thank you so much!!!! I freaking can't stand it

#25 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (15613 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@daredevil21134 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Vance Astro said:

@funckygarcon said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@funckygarcon: DD isn't dark anymore

it's not the main characteristic here. everything else just screams Batman

Batman wasn't dark when he was first created, he grew into that. So did Daredevil. Current creative teams are going back to how it was when Stan was in charge. DD is still bad ass, the comic is just a little more light-hearted. He's trying to deviate from what a whole host of other writers just did with the character.

i agree

I dont like the light hearted take on the character, it makes it seem like just another generic superhero book

Thank you so much!!!! I freaking can't stand it

Lol yea we'v spoke about it (this is spiderbat btw)

#26 Posted by Vance Astro (88630 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@funckygarcon said:

u gotta admit that generic and vanilla superheroes are boring, right?

Daredevil isn't generic no matter how you approach the character.Dark or Light-hearted, both are a stencil for character styles.
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#27 Posted by daredevil21134 (7468 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@funckygarcon said:

u gotta admit that generic and vanilla superheroes are boring, right?

Daredevil isn't generic no matter how you approach the character.Dark or Light-hearted, both are a stencil for character styles.

I can't stand it

#28 Edited by knighthood (919 posts) - 10 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Really?!? Would Ron Jeremy fit the role of Superman better? No. Not at all. I hear you, but completely disagree with your logic.

#29 Posted by Jnr6Lil (6556 posts) - 10 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

No. Batman is an extension of Bruce Wayne. For Daredevil to be Batman he must be Bruce Wayne

#30 Posted by theholypuma (7 posts) - 10 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

I would just liek to add that bats are not blind, they just have really bad eye sight.

#31 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (2118 posts) - 10 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

fully agree, i hate Superheroes that are like Superman, so generic, so vanilla.

me too.

#32 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (2481 posts) - 10 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

I could definitely see Matt Murdock as The Batman given their similarities.
I could also see Dick Grayson in the role of a sighted Daredevil.

PS. OP, Bats really aren't blind.

#33 Posted by greenteaforme (1745 posts) - 10 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

No. Because he's disabled, and nobody wants a disabled person as part of their flagship trinity.

Sad but true.

#34 Posted by Jnr6Lil (6556 posts) - 10 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@greenteaforme said:

No. Because he's disabled, and nobody wants a disabled person as part of their flagship trinity.

Sad but true.

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