#1 Posted by SOG7dc (7321 posts) - - Show Bio

read through a thread about superman needing one. got curious as to whaat you guys think

#2 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure her power set has been really well-defined in the New 52. (I have not read the most recent issue however), but based on what I know up to this point I'd say "no"..She seems (to me) to be less powerful than than the pre-52 version (but I don't 100% know that.)

#3 Posted by RedQueen (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope.

#4 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

she needs an amp, not a reduction

#5 Posted by Perpetr8rMike (590 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes she does. Why is she VASTLY more powerful and faster then Kara who has been orbiting the sun for 19 years. She overpowers her, not outfights her, but outright overpowers her. Is faster then her, etc. She is not a Kryptonian so unless they make her obviously superior to SUPERMAN then she needs to Nerfed her powers down to below the Kryptonians but show her SKILL is what makes her their better.

#6 Posted by SNascimento (441 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes she does. Why is she VASTLY more powerful and faster then Kara who has been orbiting the sun for 19 years. She overpowers her, not outfights her, but outright overpowers her. Is faster then her, etc. She is not a Kryptonian so unless they make her obviously superior to SUPERMAN then she needs to Nerfed her powers down to below the Kryptonians but show her SKILL is what makes her their better.

Just read what Diana says.

Also, WW beating kryptonians is nothing new.

#7 Edited by RedQueen (1171 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes she does. Why is she VASTLY more powerful and faster then Kara who has been orbiting the sun for 19 years. She overpowers her, not outfights her, but outright overpowers her. Is faster then her, etc. She is not a Kryptonian so unless they make her obviously superior to SUPERMAN then she needs to Nerfed her powers down to below the Kryptonians but show her SKILL is what makes her their better.

Kara's feats have been quite inconsistent in the new 52, she's supposedly stronger than Superman (though this was stated in her book, and not his) yet this hasn't really been explored - at all.

#8 Edited by waezi2 (7703 posts) - - Show Bio

Look NO SUPERHEROES need a power reduction... well maybe silver age superman needed one, but that was because he started to get powers that didnt make sense, but still, what superheroes need is good righters. Thats all.

#9 Edited by Bruxae (13984 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, ive read her entire run in the new 52 and so far she doesnt really have any feats to fully judge her power on.

However in Justice League she seems a bit strong, she actually comes of as more powerful then Superman and while I like it personally maybe she should be a tad weaker then there.. But again its hard to judge since she has no 100% clear feats, so for now id say shes great the way she is.

#10 Posted by Perpetr8rMike (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@snascimento: true and I do not mind if its skill. Except in the scene before the one you posted Kara is in shock of WW's speed saying something like "She's too fast"

#11 Posted by SNascimento (441 posts) - - Show Bio

@perpetr8rmike: And? WW's battle speed is arguably bigger than Superman's. It wasn't a race, it was a fight.

#12 Posted by Mercy_ (92760 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope.

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#13 Posted by SNascimento (441 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyway, answering the question.

No. And the reason why is simple. There is no WW moment whatsoever that you can pick and say: "Damn, that was crazy. Wonder Woman shouldn't be able to do that".

#14 Edited by Wolfrazer (6898 posts) - - Show Bio

I think she needs an actual weakness really, the whole piercing thing is rather stupid with her reaction time and skill it seems nigh impossible unless its some fluke or PIS or w/e. Or can in the New 52, she can get beat to a bloody pulp and die? That would be ok, just the piercing thing was kinda stupid for me.

#15 Posted by Perpetr8rMike (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@snascimento: That is her reflex speed. She outright blitzed her, moving to fast for Kara (Who in new 53 had been orbiting the sun for 19 solid years absorbing sunlight at higher doses then Superman) to really react to her.

#16 Posted by SOG7dc (7321 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Edited by waezi2 (7703 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc: Look, Im Danish, and its not weary polite to correct people.

#18 Edited by SOG7dc (7321 posts) - - Show Bio

@waezi2:

didnt mean to offend. I just assumed youd rather know the word you wanted to use than not

#19 Posted by joshmightbe (24907 posts) - - Show Bio

@perpetr8rmike: To be fair isn't New 52 WW the daughter of a god king? That should carry some weight in how powerful she can be. Hercules was the child of Zeus and a human and grew up to be more powerful than several gods so considering that Diana is the child of a god and an Amazon then it stands to reason that she'd be pretty powerful.

#20 Posted by waezi2 (7703 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc: I'm sorry. I kinda had a long day, and I was just irritable.

#21 Posted by SOG7dc (7321 posts) - - Show Bio
#22 Edited by Perpetr8rMike (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: She is, but she was stronger even before the new 52.

#23 Posted by joshmightbe (24907 posts) - - Show Bio

@perpetr8rmike: So your whole argument is that she should be depowered because she can beat up a character you like?

#24 Edited by Franchise1590 (298 posts) - - Show Bio

WW is the daughter of Zeus, a god king, and Hippoliya, a amazon waarrior immortal queen.

She should be stronger than pre-52 AND superman imo.

If anything she needs an intelligence buff in the Justice League book. Azzerelo write her correct imo.

#25 Posted by Perpetr8rMike (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Either make her lightyears ahead of superman in every way or nerf her to make her fit in her slot. Female Kryptonians should be faster and stronger then her.

#26 Posted by joshmightbe (24907 posts) - - Show Bio

@perpetr8rmike: Or you could keep her as about equal to Supergirl, half god has to rate at least as high as kryptonian.

#27 Posted by Perpetr8rMike (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: So your saying She should be on par with Superman if he went and lived very close to the sun for 19 YEARS.?

#28 Edited by Wolfrazer (6898 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Tell that to Hercules who is full, yet somehow isn't as strong. Why DC....why. But then again she is a DC char, so she is looked after and cuddled closely so wouldn't be surprising.

#29 Posted by joshmightbe (24907 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by batmannflash (6224 posts) - - Show Bio

neither wonder woman nor superman need a power reduction in the new 52