#1 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by cattlebattle (12989 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't I just have both.....

#3 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer well-developed plots in comics because I would want to know about why the characters are fighting and how they react to those situations.  It would also make the story much easier to understand if we know about the character's motives behind the actions and I also want to connect to the character.

#4 Posted by Lvenger (20753 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

Can't I just have both.....

This. You can't really have one without the other. Whilst character development, plot twists, motives behind the actions are all well and good, a comic needs some punchy action sequences to keep it entertaining.

#5 Edited by haydenclaireheroes (9183 posts) - - Show Bio

I like well developed plots the best

#6 Posted by Billy Batson (58152 posts) - - Show Bio

a obviously...
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#7 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11266 posts) - - Show Bio

A.

#8 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3562 posts) - - Show Bio

A good story needs both, but if I have to pick one, a plot is more essential.

#9 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33909 posts) - - Show Bio

Developed plots and characterisation, I good read a whole years worth of books with not a single punch thrown and be cool with it as long as it was well written 

#10 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kal'smahboi said:
A good story needs both, but if I have to pick one, a plot is more essential.
Yeah, I should have put a third option for "both" but I forgot. Anyway, I think there needs to be action also, but a plot would easily describe the motives of action behind the characters.
#11 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

while I chose the plot option, it is important to find a balance of both in a comic. That being said, I can tolerate a slow, but well developed plot with little action a lot longer than I can tolerate mindless action with no semblance of a plot whatsoever.

#12 Posted by Deadcool (6813 posts) - - Show Bio

Well developed plots with action in the middle of the situations.

#13 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

Well developed plots with action.

#14 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7714 posts) - - Show Bio

Well developed plots with action

But I care more probably about the plots than the action.

Civil War had me hooked on the discussions that went on when the heroes weren't fighting.

#15 Posted by primepower53 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

Who voted B?

#16 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jnr6Lil said:

Well developed plots with action

But I care more probably about the plots than the action.

Civil War had me hooked on the discussions that went on when the heroes weren't fighting.

Yeah, I am also interested in the discussions the heroes had with each other since I can easily get into their heads about how they feel about the situations.
#17 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
@Billy Batson said:

a obviously...
BB

#18 Posted by TurianAgent (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Both.

#19 Edited by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

depends on how I'm feeling, yes usually I prefer complex and intricate stories but there is a reason I have a Mark Miller section on my bookshelf sometimes I just want stuff blowing up and story can get in the way. That said A is vastly more important to me 90% of the time

#20 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7714 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

Well developed plots with action

But I care more probably about the plots than the action.

Civil War had me hooked on the discussions that went on when the heroes weren't fighting.

Yeah, I am also interested in the discussions the heroes had with each other since I can easily get into their heads about how they feel about the situations.

Definitely

#21 Posted by jrock85 (2874 posts) - - Show Bio

A little bit of both.

#22 Posted by Zomboid (740 posts) - - Show Bio

A, of course. Straight action is stupid if there's not a good story and reasoning behind it.

#23 Posted by _Zombie_ (10455 posts) - - Show Bio

While I would prefer both, as cattlebattle said, I can't read a book if it has a crappy plot. The action would be good, but you wouldn't have anything to back it up.

#24 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

I can tolerate a well-developed plot longer than straight action. I'll start to pull my hair out if nobody throws a punch for 10 issues during a superman comic.

#25 Posted by CATPANEXE (9368 posts) - - Show Bio

To me the plot is the music and the action is the fireworks show. Both are enjoyable, but only the first one moves me.

#26 Posted by JediXMan (30939 posts) - - Show Bio

Developed stories, definitely. But usually with a combo (though I wouldn't say V for Vendetta or Sandman had much action)

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#27 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zomboid said:

A, of course. Straight action is stupid if there's not a good story and reasoning behind it.

Exactly! If I want to enjoy the action, then there needs to be a logical reason behind it.
#28 Posted by intothetempest (288 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, a bit of both for sure. I love to see a slug fest, especially between heroes fighting that’s just awesome. But if I had to choose, well developed plot is more important to me, like Superman Red Son or Kingdom Come are two of my all time favorite arcs and neither are overpowered by too much senseless action

#29 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:

Developed stories, definitely. But usually with a combo (though I wouldn't say V for Vendetta or Sandman had much action)

Ooh! I love the "Sandman" series!
#30 Posted by zackattack529 (1404 posts) - - Show Bio

hahaha whoever picked B is stuck in the golden age of comics! XD not an insult tho..i actually like my fair share of action. but i think comics have become more sophisticated and require a more well developed story. and plus dont you need a well devlepoed story to explain or delve into the action?..like goodness can you imagine if a movie like lord of the rings or star wars was just all action..haha it be MADNESS!?!! you need both..its as simple as that :p

#31 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
@zackattack529 said:

hahaha whoever picked B is stuck in the golden age of comics! XD not an insult tho..i actually like my fair share of action. but i think comics have become more sophisticated and require a more well developed story. and plus dont you need a well devlepoed story to explain or delve into the action?..like goodness can you imagine if a movie like lord of the rings or star wars was just all action..haha it be MADNESS!?!! you need both..its as simple as that :p

I definitely agree with this! We need a very good storyline that can explain why the characters are involved in the action in the first place!
#32 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

I chose A obviously. But there needs to be a balance. A good, solid, exciting plot + Faces that need a punchin' = winning formula..

#33 Posted by Enosisik (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on the perpose of my wanting to read. If you could give me a dream match like marvel vs Dc or a just great match up that is rare like Thanos vs Apocalypse .. Then I'm happy with just a great brawl but overall I need both. Nothing Is more disappointing than a long drawn out story with only a short batte at the end. I need the story to keep me informed on the action and vise versa. Some books you just don't expect great dialog like old Hulk books. Hulk was just I'm angry now watch me fight for twelve pages. Most comics , when you think of them or go back to flip through them , you go directly to that scene where the fight starts or some dramatic event happens in picture. The only time I think we flip to read a specific line is because it was historically important to the series or holds important information. So basically this all breaks down to dialog vs art...

#34 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

B.

Comics should have the right portion of both, but due to my dificulty in focusing and concentrating while reading and general personality, I need action in there and I can easily tolerate a crappy plot, but cannot tolerate an actionless issue.

#35 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

Straight action always ends looking like random and senseless fight, without a well developed plot, stupid comics I say (Dude what case is on seeing guys punching without reason).

But we don't want reading there all day without some action, no matter how well is written, you will end sleepy

@Jnr6Lil said:

Well developed plots with action

But I care more probably about the plots than the action.

Civil War had me hooked on the discussions that went on when the heroes weren't fighting.

Uh that's the best part, what I most like of comics: The psychological side.

#36 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7714 posts) - - Show Bio

@RedOwl_1 said:

Straight action always ends looking like random and senseless fight, without a well developed plot, stupid comics I say (Dude what case is on seeing guys punching without reason).

But we don't want reading there all day without some action, no matter how well is written, you will end sleepy

@Jnr6Lil said:

Well developed plots with action

But I care more probably about the plots than the action.

Civil War had me hooked on the discussions that went on when the heroes weren't fighting.

Uh that's the best part, what I most like of comics: The psychological side.

Exactly. That's how X-Men became so great

#37 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jnr6Lil said:

@RedOwl_1 said:

Straight action always ends looking like random and senseless fight, without a well developed plot, stupid comics I say (Dude what case is on seeing guys punching without reason).

But we don't want reading there all day without some action, no matter how well is written, you will end sleepy

@Jnr6Lil said:

Well developed plots with action

But I care more probably about the plots than the action.

Civil War had me hooked on the discussions that went on when the heroes weren't fighting.

Uh that's the best part, what I most like of comics: The psychological side.

Exactly. That's how X-Men became so great

I loved the X-Men comics because they were always discussing about how the characters felt about the situations they were thrown in and I loved the way that they connected the racial tensions in the real world with the characters, so it made me really relate to the characters. Nowadays, there is just straight action with most of these characters.
#38 Posted by Deranged Midget (17717 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

Can't I just have both.....
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#39 Posted by Shamelesslysupportinaznballers (553 posts) - - Show Bio

This is like asking if you prefer great writing or great art and it only makes sense to have both in comics.

#40 Posted by Adnan (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with the "no reason why there can't be both". A well-developed plot will probably do a better job of keeping me interested in the long run though - even if I love me a good action scene (emphasis on good, lame ones take a lot away from the story imo)

#41 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rabbitearsblog said:

I prefer well-developed plots in comics because I would want to know about why the characters are fighting and how they react to those situations. It would also make the story much easier to understand if we know about the character's motives behind the actions and I also want to connect to the character.
#42 Posted by Nudeviking (479 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer well developed plots, but there is something to be said for the straight action. Pick up almost any silver age comic and you can read that book from beginning to end and without having read a single previous issue and understand the entire story.

#43 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7714 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

@RedOwl_1 said:

Straight action always ends looking like random and senseless fight, without a well developed plot, stupid comics I say (Dude what case is on seeing guys punching without reason).

But we don't want reading there all day without some action, no matter how well is written, you will end sleepy

@Jnr6Lil said:

Well developed plots with action

But I care more probably about the plots than the action.

Civil War had me hooked on the discussions that went on when the heroes weren't fighting.

Uh that's the best part, what I most like of comics: The psychological side.

Exactly. That's how X-Men became so great

I loved the X-Men comics because they were always discussing about how the characters felt about the situations they were thrown in and I loved the way that they connected the racial tensions in the real world with the characters, so it made me really relate to the characters. Nowadays, there is just straight action with most of these characters.

Well can't have them be oppressed forever

#44 Posted by TheWitchingHour (1340 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Joss Whedon's run on Astonishing X-men is a wonderful example of the best of both worlds. It's also a very traditional plot structure in a very good way.

#45 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

A

#46 Posted by Scarlett_Wiccan (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Well developed plot

#47 Posted by Rabbitearsblog (5947 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheWitchingHour said:

I think Joss Whedon's run on Astonishing X-men is a wonderful example of the best of both worlds. It's also a very traditional plot structure in a very good way.

I definitely agree with this! Joss Whedon really knew how to balance the action and the character development with the characters and I loved with what he done with Kitty Pryde's character while providing some good action scenes in the mix.