#1 Posted by Catsnlynne (905 posts) - - Show Bio

I was reading The DC Comics Encyclopedia (2004 edition) and Deathstroke is listed as a villain. I have only read issues # 13 & 14 of Deathstroke of the new 52, but he seemed like a nice guy to me. Has his status changed from a villain to a hero?

#2 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (27313 posts) - - Show Bio

@Catsnlynne: he's not really a villain or a hero

#3 Edited by serpent222 (319 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke, I think, was one of the first big DC villains to have his own series. Whenever that happens, it complicates the issue of what a villain is. When you get to see the background, motivations, and choices of a villain from their perspective, it makes it hard to see them as a straight up bad guy.

Besides that, Deathstroke does have a sort of moral code that he adheres to, and he has a healthy respect for many of the heroes (to that point that he almost certainly knows the identity of Batman, but does not have the slightest interest in exposing it). But, at the end of the day, he is a ruthless killer whose main motivations are often in the form of money or pride. He is a villain, but a complex villain who can occasionally do good things.

#4 Posted by JediXMan (27924 posts) - - Show Bio

He's an anti-hero / anti-villain. He's a guy after a pay check half the time with no evil motives, for the most part.

@serpent222 said:

Deathstroke, I think, was one of the first big DC villains to have his own series. Whenever that happens, it complicates the issue of what a villain is. When you get to see the background, motivations, and choices of a villain from their perspective, it makes it hard to see them as a straight up bad guy.

I don't know about that. A villain can have their own series and still be the villain. Just because a character swaps from antagonist to protagonist doesn't mean they switch alignments.

#5 Posted by serpent222 (319 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

He's an anti-hero / anti-villain. He's a guy after a pay check half the time with no evil motives, for the most part.

@serpent222 said:

Deathstroke, I think, was one of the first big DC villains to have his own series. Whenever that happens, it complicates the issue of what a villain is. When you get to see the background, motivations, and choices of a villain from their perspective, it makes it hard to see them as a straight up bad guy.

I don't know about that. A villain can have their own series and still be the villain. Just because a character swaps from antagonist to protagonist doesn't mean they switch alignments.

He by no means changed alignments. He is a villain without question. I'm merely pointing out that seeing it from the villain's perspective makes it harder to see them as a villain. And it could cause confusion about the alignment to some people, especially where the villain does have standards.

#6 Posted by Charetter115 (475 posts) - - Show Bio

He is a villain with morals. He could also be classified as a mercenary.

#7 Posted by JediXMan (27924 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charetter115 said:

He is a villain with morals. He could also be classified as a mercenary.

He is a mercenary. That's really all it comes down to.

#8 Posted by cameron83 (6416 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@Charetter115 said:

He is a villain with morals. He could also be classified as a mercenary.

He is a mercenary. That's really all it comes down to.

This

#9 Posted by Skunkstein (582 posts) - - Show Bio

He is a villian, no doubt... an awesome villian.

#10 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (4981 posts) - - Show Bio

@Catsnlynne: he is a tweener

#11 Posted by dondave (26572 posts) - - Show Bio

He's a Mercenary. He'd kill anyone as long as you pay him enough. Not just killing for the fun of it like the joker

#12 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

He's an anti-hero / anti-villain. He's a guy after a pay check half the time with no evil motives, for the most part.

@serpent222 said:

Deathstroke, I think, was one of the first big DC villains to have his own series. Whenever that happens, it complicates the issue of what a villain is. When you get to see the background, motivations, and choices of a villain from their perspective, it makes it hard to see them as a straight up bad guy.

I don't know about that. A villain can have their own series and still be the villain. Just because a character swaps from antagonist to protagonist doesn't mean they switch alignments.

Agreed/This.

Vouile

#13 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

He's a Mercenary. He'd kill anyone as long as you pay him enough. Not just killing for the fun of it like the joker