Daniel Danny Rand should be asian american?

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I don't like when Hollywood change the ethnicity of superheroes, but this time it's a good idea IMO. There aren't many asian characters on tv and would be interesting to see an asian american actor as the protagonist. Think about it, a lot of people loves manga and anime, a lot of people watch oriental movies. In my opinion the public it's ready for an asian superhero.

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#2  Edited By Rpgesus

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@moul: We do need to do something about all the white guys who dominates the superhero media.

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@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

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Him being a causasian man is sort of intrinsic to his origin last time I checked. Also, there are plenty of films with Asian protagonists, just not in the US....you know, because white people are the majority there.

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@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

I agree, but we also need more no-white heroes.

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His story is the ultimate outsider story. Here we have a master of Kung Fu that throws all stereotypes to the side.

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@cattlebattle: I'm white and I love oriental movies. Park chan Wook, Takeshi Kitano, Miike, Bong Joon-ho, the legendary Akira Kurosawa etc etc

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@waezi2: Well, in the next years we'll see a lot of black superheroes (Black panther, Cyborg, Luke Cage, Static Shock, maybe Misty Knight and Blade).

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I've previously said I wouldn't care, but having thought about it a lot, Danny needs to be white as much as Luke needs to be black.

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@jonny_anonymous: Well I think being an asian american and living in Asia make him an outsider as well. His dynamic with Luke Cage would be the same, instead of "Black angry man vs arrogant white bilionaire" would be "poor vs rich"

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@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

Exactly. There's nothing groundbreaking about an Asian Martial-Artist.

Personally, I still think Spider-Man should be Asian.

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@scouterv said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

Exactly. There's nothing groundbreaking about an Asian Martial-Artist.

Personally, I still think Spider-Man should be Asian.

Yeah...the high-school nerd with the talent for physics should be Asian.

Man, this thread is like stereotype parade :P

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@scouterv: Spiderman is a classic character, there's no motive because he should be asian. Iron Fist on the other hand is a stereotypical character. The american blonde guy who becomes more powerful than an entire dynasty of chinese warriors. Plus, what's wrong with "Asian do kung fu"? I mean, it's an awesome tradition of the oriental culture, like the samurai and the dragons. I don't think it's offensive, it's cool.

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@scouterv said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

Exactly. There's nothing groundbreaking about an Asian Martial-Artist.

Personally, I still think Spider-Man should be Asian.

Yeah...the high-school nerd with the talent for physics should be Asian.

Man, this thread is like stereotype parade :P

Not before someone suggest that Batman should be black.

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@waezi2 said:

@squalleon said:

@scouterv said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

Exactly. There's nothing groundbreaking about an Asian Martial-Artist.

Personally, I still think Spider-Man should be Asian.

Yeah...the high-school nerd with the talent for physics should be Asian.

Man, this thread is like stereotype parade :P

Not before someone suggest that Batman should be black.

Batman should be Black.

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Luke Cage should be played by neil patrick harris

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I'd love for more Asians to be featured in American media. However, why change Iron Fist's heritage when Marvel has a perfectly good Asian character in Shang Chi?

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@squalleon: Can someone explain what's wrong with Kung Fu? I mean, this is not an offensive stereotype like "Italians are gangsters" or "Black people likes chicken" or "Jewish are misers". There are a lot of manga based on martial arts; Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece, Inuyasha, Ranma, Saint Seiya etc etc.

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@waezi2 said:

@squalleon said:

@scouterv said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

Exactly. There's nothing groundbreaking about an Asian Martial-Artist.

Personally, I still think Spider-Man should be Asian.

Yeah...the high-school nerd with the talent for physics should be Asian.

Man, this thread is like stereotype parade :P

Not before someone suggest that Batman should be black.

Batman should be Black.

So we can joke about him being; "the really dark knight"?

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#21  Edited By Squalleon

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Luke Cage should be played by neil patrick harris

Wearing an Asian-man mask. While be painted by Native American's colors of war.

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@scouterv said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

Exactly. There's nothing groundbreaking about an Asian Martial-Artist.

Personally, I still think Spider-Man should be Asian.

Yeah...the high-school nerd with the talent for physics should be Asian.

Man, this thread is like stereotype parade :P

It's not a stereotype if it's true. :p

It's a positive trait that people just so happen to have.

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race lifting is disgusting practice, and we have shang chi already who needs attention

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#24  Edited By Moul

@rdclip: Because no one want to make a tv series or a movie about Shang Chi (lol)

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@moul said:

@squalleon: Can someone explain what's wrong with Kung Fu? I mean, this is not an offensive stereotype like "Italians are gangsters" or "Black people likes chicken" or "Jewish are misers". There are a lot of manga based on martial arts; Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece, Inuyasha, Ranma, Saint Seiya etc etc.

Stereotypes are still stereotypes and they became boring at some point because you end up seeing the same character again and again. Making Danny asian, would literally make him another Asian martial artist. It would take away his background as the odd man out, that made him unique.

Its like DC making Aquaman brunette...oh wait.

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@scouterv said:

It's not a stereotype if it's true. :p

It's a positive trait that people just so happen to have.

I hope that is meant as a joke :P

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race lifting is disgusting practice, and we have shang chi already who needs attention

I don't see why he can't be in Iron Fist.

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@moul said:

@rdclip: Because no one want to make a tv series or a movie about Shang Chi (lol)

Yeah and Marvel doesn't even want to give him a real comic book. :(

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@vivide: Shang Chi at the best would be a supporting character, I was hoping in an asian american hero as the protagonist. But I guess to be the only one :-(

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@moul said:

@squalleon: Can someone explain what's wrong with Kung Fu? I mean, this is not an offensive stereotype like "Italians are gangsters" or "Black people likes chicken" or "Jewish are misers". There are a lot of manga based on martial arts; Dragonball, Naruto, One Piece, Inuyasha, Ranma, Saint Seiya etc etc.

Stereotypes are still stereotypes and they became boring at some point because you end up seeing the same character again and again. Making Danny asian, would literally make him another Asian martial artist. It would take away his background as the odd man out, that made him unique.

Its like DC making Aquaman brunette...oh wait.

OK, let me just say, as a Black person yes I like chicken. I also like lamb, beef, pork, but my favorite meat is fish.

I've never actually seen this as an offensive thing, because I can't think of a group of people that don't like chicken.

Also, I can't think anyone except POSSIBLY Sango that uses Martial Arts in Inuyasha.

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Him not being Asian is actually important to the character so, no.

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While we're at it lets make john Stewart white

Lets reboot hulk and make bruce Canadian

Lets make superman a saiyan too...for the lols

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Naw...He was created back in the day when all the Kung Fu movies were coming out and they had a bunch of White Kung Fu artists.

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@scouterv: Well, good for you, but some poeple think that's a stereotype. A bad stereotype.

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why the no's ....................what's wrong with asians

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i think he should be mexican with a dark black mustache and mariachi hat.

luke cage should be neil patrick harris

shang chi should be played by ludacris

and black panther should be played by an alaskan albino

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@moul said:

@vivide: Shang Chi at the best would be a supporting character, I was hoping in an asian american hero as the protagonist. But I guess to be the only one :-(

WTF

he has his own stories and is headed to a revival, don't parasite off a more successful character to insert race relations

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@squalleon:

I don't see why he can't be in Iron Fist.

netflix has standards

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I really wouldn't care if Luke Cage was black or not.Don't bother.Blacks aren't the only ones that stay in Harlem.

And people who don't read comics,you think they know who the hell Iron Fist is.???It's not like he has a solo all the time.

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Yes, he absolutely should. Iron Fist being white is nothing but cultural appropriation and Orientalism.

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No just have Collen Wang or Shang Chi as supporting.

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@waezi2 said:

@squalleon said:

@scouterv said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@waezi2: @moul: No, all that's going to do is further the trope of "all asians do kung fu" also Danny's origin is intrinsically tied to his ethnicity and taking that away not only destroys his original dynamic with Luke Cage but also completely changes his time at K'un L'un.

Exactly. There's nothing groundbreaking about an Asian Martial-Artist.

Personally, I still think Spider-Man should be Asian.

Yeah...the high-school nerd with the talent for physics should be Asian.

Man, this thread is like stereotype parade :P

Not before someone suggest that Batman should be black.

Batman should be Black.

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@squalleon: black men can't be Batman. They're too busy robin'

.........I'm going to hell for that

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#44  Edited By kgb725

Stereotypical Bruce Lee Kung Fu Asian guy isn't always needed when he's not even Asian

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I don't think I would care. I'm all for diversity.

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#46  Edited By SodamYat

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i think he should be mexican with a dark black mustache and mariachi hat.

luke cage should be neil patrick harris

shang chi should be played by ludacris

and black panther should be played by an alaskan albino

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As an Asian-American, I love this. We don't have any Asian-American heroes on tv, why not give us Iron Fist? Freaking white people culturally appropriating everything.

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@moul said:

@scouterv: Spiderman is a classic character, there's no motive because he should be asian. Iron Fist on the other hand is a stereotypical character. The american blonde guy who becomes more powerful than an entire dynasty of chinese warriors. Plus, what's wrong with "Asian do kung fu"? I mean, it's an awesome tradition of the oriental culture, like the samurai and the dragons. I don't think it's offensive, it's cool.

That's totally wrong, that isn't what Iron Fist is about. It's about Danny being taught a better way to live by a new culture. He's not even "the most powerful" either, Fat Cobra, The Thunderer and Prince of Orphans could all kick his ass and Sparrow and Steel Serpent are his even. Also Danny's cultural clash with Luke Cage is that he's a well meaning but total air headed rich white dude trying to make an impoverished and mostly black neighborhood better by beating people up and not realising how kinda messed up that is until Luke Cage shows him.

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As an Asian-American, I love this. We don't have any Asian-American heroes on tv, why not give us Iron Fist? Freaking white people culturally appropriating everything.

I sense some hostility in this post(towards white people.) If Iron Fists ethnicity changed he would not belong to you, why is he yours if he is Asian? Anyway changing Iron Fist is stupid, if they want an Asian character make a new one or throw an already existing one(Shang Chi) in the show.

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NO! Danny is white and always should be.