like ZOD,he can do superman everything can do?(move planets,faster than light,etc)
Superman has already stated that Kryptonians have the same abilities,but they are not real to do it
@Rumble Man: they are even not same thing...
@Teerack: ZOD even not in earth many years he still can fight with superman and superman was not far stronger or faster than him
i mean,even superman was more powerful than other Kryptonians,he not far stronger than them,he just a little stronger than them,in the pre-52,WW and MM can help superman moving earth,i dont think ZOD weaker than wonder woman who can move 1/3 of the earth,(most people agree wonder woman around move 1/3 of the earth)
@a88378438: similar, just think of how he defeated Ultraman. He has more 'experience' using his body and pushing it into the limits, compare a human athlete and a normal human salaryman.
@InnerVenom123: you are not have super power,if you power was sun,maybe we are same thing@Rumble Man: yes,but superman was not far stronger than him,right?i mean,if wonder woman can move 1/3 of the earth,why a Kryptonians can't?wonder woman stronger than ZOD or other Kryptonians?we all agree wonder woman close superman strength..
@a88378438:
"Feats or it didn't happen"
depends on the solar level and skill/experience (when they are operating on the same field that is important)
@a88378438: ABC logic won't work, also superman has the 'super breath' thing to help that sneeze feat. These other bozos don't have that in their powerset.
@a88378438: stronger does not mean they possess the power of the less stronger character, just because PC-Mongul is stronger does not mean that he can pull a superpower out of his bunghole anytime he can.
powerful as 'limited' to physical strength, but not in the overall scope of powers
the example you should be using is Vartox really, as he outguns supes in strength and powers
@Rumble Man: I'm not say this
SA superman says validus dozen times more powerful than him,and validus never move a planet,he 0 feats
same thing in this thread,ZOD can fight with superman,also other Kryptonians can toe to toe with superman,why Superman's feats apply to them?I'm sure in the silver age ,any silver age Kryptonians can one blow out the solar system
@a88378438:
In what context is he 'more powerful' what does he have besides the 'brick' powerset and mental lightning?
only in strength, that is it (to move those planets valdy would need to fly)
nope, feats still do not apply since that is powerscaling
also SA kryptonians are mostly dead in the backstory
@Rumble Man: I'm not talk this,validus was far stronger than SA superman but he 0 feats
in thisforum many people just look a charater feats,they are don't care other thing,if just use feats,validus even weaker than current superman,this soo stupid
by the way.Bro,if i say Silver age Kryptonians can one blow out the solar system,you think this right or wrong,why
@a88378438:
SA kryptonians are mostly extinct and 'superman' is special amongst them (superpowers as the plot desire)
'Only' physically stronger, feat is manhandling supes
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@Rumble Man: Sorry.i mean in this forum,in battle thread,most people dont care other thing,they are just "look" a charater feats,if we are just "look" feats,validus should be weaker than current superman(who can lift earth weight)but this sooooo wrong soooooo stupid,you see,validus even dozen times stronger than SA superman,just becausevalidus 0 feats so he was nothing i cant agree this logic
same thing in the Kryptonians,any Kryptonians could be do superman feats,sure,superman can beat them and more skills,than them,but he not MUCH stronger than other Kryptonians,i never say superman was MUCH stronger than other Kryptonians,even Supergirl,supergirl strength was wonder woman level,and we all agree wonder woman strength close superman in strength
so i think Superman's feats apply to other Kryptonians
@a88378438:
Feats also has circumstances backing them up, and lifting superman is hardly a feat considering that he does not weigh that much
I stick to the fact that validus is strictly physically stronger, no more and no less
@Rumble Man: Lol,Bro,where i say validus not stronger than superman?i say them,this forum,most people just use"real"feats,not "fight feats",like move planets,destroy planets etc..the validus was 0 feats,but he was dozen times stronger than superman,if we are just use feats,even current superman feats was far better than him( who can lift earth weight)
Back in the thread,superman says supergirl was equal to him,even we are back silver age,only superman one sneeze blow out the solar system,other Kryptonians never do it,but still they are equal to him,so Superman's feats apply to other Kryptonians,right?
also,Superman's feats apply to other Kryptonians in pre-52 or new 52,superman not MUCH stronger than other Kryptonians,if a Kryptonians was stronger than wonder woman,who always close superman in strength(like ZOD)i don't know why Superman's feats cant apply to other Kryptonians
@Rumble Man: lifting superman?!oh no...i'm not show supergirl feats,I'm show you superman talk.......
Bro you want to see SA supergirl feats?of course
I can prove in the Silver age superman and supergirl was equal to power level
Take down Quasar power;Destroy worldwar,MUCH BIGGER than a star,creater a HUGE PLANET,move planet,fight with PC DS,throw half of planets,fight with COIE AM and almost kill him
@a88378438: Nope, it gets technical
since lifting a dozen planets and more with big ass chain > moving just 'one' planet
(to add to the "not necessarily" side) There's also the case of willpower/mind-over-matter. Just like any real life fight, some people have the mental ability to keep working their muscles and not let them "quit". This could be the decider in a close fight. Especially since a logical (enough) theory is that Superman's powers are psionic(/telekinetic) in nature, the strength of one's mind to push one's own physical limitations is an important piece of the puzzle.
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