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#1  Edited By ILoveComics

So in DC i think its in the series CRY FOR JUSTICE. You have Animal Man's house full of two hot women barely dressed, One of them is totally ok with being naked (starfire) Donna Troy was very skantily Dressed. You see "teen" titans like connor kent and Wonder "girl" having sex. Rose Wilson or Ravager basically does the same. 
 
In Top Cow you have Witchblade wearing even less then most comic heroins. 
 
I mean if your gonna show such skantily clad women just go all the way and get it over with. Marvel did with Marvel Max when it showed power princess nude, and had sex scenes in Punisher Max. DC you should just do that or dress your women better. Its insulting and basically just odd that you show barely dressed women ALL the time and like in the case of starfire are kinda teasing the public. Why dont you just show them nudity already and get it overwith at least SOME nudity.
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#2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@ILoveComics said:
" So in DC i think its in the series CRY FOR JUSTICE. You have Animal Man's house full of two hot women barely dressed, One of them is totally ok with being naked (starfire) Donna Troy was very skantily Dressed. You see "teen" titans like connor kent and Wonder "girl" having sex. Rose Wilson or Ravager basically does the same.  In Top Cow you have Witchblade wearing even less then most comic heroins.  I mean if your gonna show such skantily clad women just go all the way and get it over with. Marvel did with Marvel Max when it showed power princess nude, and had sex scenes in Punisher Max. DC you should just do that or dress your women better. Its insulting and basically just odd that you show barely dressed women ALL the time and like in the case of starfire are kinda teasing the public. Why dont you just show them nudity already and get it overwith at least SOME nudity. "
Is this really what you think about when you see females in comics.I mean it's not like I don't notice that Ms.Marvel,Powergirl etc. are half naked but is it really that big a deal? I don't want nudity in my comics.It's there in MAX comics and there's almost never a need for it.It's like MAX knows that the comics are uncensored so the profanity and sex is just randomly thrown in.The only MAX comics that are actually good is the Punisher.The rest of that stuff is borderline Hentai Manga.Pure crap.
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#3  Edited By G Bird

I wouldn't mind nudity in my comics t all, I'd actually prefer it. They have them in such skimpy outfits already, why not show them topless once in a while?

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maybe because kids could forget about their moms ever buying them a comic book again.
there are other publications for one to find this sort of stuff, not to mention im pretty sure
the internet caters to it mucho.

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#5  Edited By G Bird

^^^ Moms shouldn't be buying the youngins "parental advisory" comics anyways. How is seeing boobs any worse than hearing swear words?

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@G Bird: who says they are?
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#7  Edited By joshmightbe

i find nothing wrong with boobs or swear words boobs are a natural part of the human body and swear words have never actually causeed any kind of real damage in fact i find it amusing that on tv shows like heros and the like its perfectly ok to show some one getting their skull cut open as long as theyre not naked or cussing while its happening.
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#8  Edited By dane

Honestly I don't think of characters sexually, so it doesn't honestly come into it for me. If women wearing revealing outfits is the worst thing you find in this life you must have lived under a rock. Do you get offended when you go to the beach and girls are wearing bikinis? I don't see how Donna Troy in a pair of bathers is any worse.

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@ILoveComics said:
"You see "teen" titans like connor kent and Wonder "girl" having sex. Rose Wilson or Ravager basically does the same.  I mean if your gonna show such skantily clad women just go all the way and get it over with."

Yeah.  What's a little child porn?  I'm sure most comic readers want that in their books.
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#11  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Lol read Crossed

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#12  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt

I, for one, never stop thanking God that the Hulk's shorts stay on.

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#13  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
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I dont read Hentai or anything like that. My point is they already show them barely naked why not just show them naked once and for all. It would make people just..........i uno it would let them stop wondering feversly about this crap. Its not anyones fault males and females have hormones, Its just DC's fault for basically taunting them, its not good to tease people its just not. as for me i dont watch hentai or porn. as for nudity in comics what diffrence does it make if htey go one step furthur they already show the heroins half naked anyway would anyone really care if they went all the way in at least an uncensored comic?
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They can't do that.Comics have ratings and standards.They aren't teasing people..those are their uniforms.If people really look at comic book heroes like that..that's on them.
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#14  Edited By DEGRAAF
@ILoveComics said:
" So in DC i think its in the series CRY FOR JUSTICE. You have Animal Man's house full of two hot women barely dressed, One of them is totally ok with being naked (starfire) Donna Troy was very skantily Dressed. You see "teen" titans like connor kent and Wonder "girl" having sex. Rose Wilson or Ravager basically does the same.  In Top Cow you have Witchblade wearing even less then most comic heroins.  I mean if your gonna show such skantily clad women just go all the way and get it over with. Marvel did with Marvel Max when it showed power princess nude, and had sex scenes in Punisher Max. DC you should just do that or dress your women better. Its insulting and basically just odd that you show barely dressed women ALL the time and like in the case of starfire are kinda teasing the public. Why dont you just show them nudity already and get it overwith at least SOME nudity. "
when did they show Conner and Cassie having sex? I was shocked when they showed Mon-el sleeping with a co-worker, i guess i just cant see any superhero with the S on their uniform having sex out of wed lock. Ive said this before too. Like when they show a super herione taking a shower and all thats blocking their bodies are some well stuck bubbles or steam. I ultimately say there is no need and they should just get rid of it. They other heroes should tell starfire to get another outfit that is more publicly ok. Like when Dr Light Killed off some black lanterns. She used so much power that it tore off her outfit. the only thing covering her was her hair over her chest and her hips turned just right. There was no need for it
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#15  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@DEGRAAF said:

" @ILoveComics said:

" So in DC i think its in the series CRY FOR JUSTICE. You have Animal Man's house full of two hot women barely dressed, One of them is totally ok with being naked (starfire) Donna Troy was very skantily Dressed. You see "teen" titans like connor kent and Wonder "girl" having sex. Rose Wilson or Ravager basically does the same.  In Top Cow you have Witchblade wearing even less then most comic heroins.  I mean if your gonna show such skantily clad women just go all the way and get it over with. Marvel did with Marvel Max when it showed power princess nude, and had sex scenes in Punisher Max. DC you should just do that or dress your women better. Its insulting and basically just odd that you show barely dressed women ALL the time and like in the case of starfire are kinda teasing the public. Why dont you just show them nudity already and get it overwith at least SOME nudity. "
when did they show Conner and Cassie having sex? I was shocked when they showed Mon-el sleeping with a co-worker, i guess i just cant see any superhero with the S on their uniform having sex out of wed lock. Ive said this before too. Like when they show a super herione taking a shower and all thats blocking their bodies are some well stuck bubbles or steam. I ultimately say there is no need and they should just get rid of it. They other heroes should tell starfire to get another outfit that is more publicly ok. Like when Dr Light Killed off some black lanterns. She used so much power that it tore off her outfit. the only thing covering her was her hair over her chest and her hips turned just right. There was no need for it "
Conner and Cassie slept together in Teen Titans Annual #1, (I think it was number 1) it was in the Life and Death TPB; leading into Infinite Crisis. Overall, the whole thing was actually quite tasteful, imo. There was just a silouhette of their naked bodies, nothing too explicit.
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@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Conner and Cassie slept together in Teen Titans Annual #1, (I think it was number 1) it was in the Life and Death TPB; leading into Infinite Crisis. Overall, the whole thing was actually quite tasteful, imo. There was just a silouhette of their naked bodies, nothing too explicit. "
thats cool. At least it was done right. Was there any reason why? Like because the world was coming to an end? Did they mention if it was a first for either of them? its still shocking to me that memebers from either group (themysera or from the Super Family) would do that out of wed lock Although im also one that would be all for them getting married
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#17  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@DEGRAAF said:

" @FadeToBlackBolt said:

" Conner and Cassie slept together in Teen Titans Annual #1, (I think it was number 1) it was in the Life and Death TPB; leading into Infinite Crisis. Overall, the whole thing was actually quite tasteful, imo. There was just a silouhette of their naked bodies, nothing too explicit. "

thats cool. At least it was done right. Was there any reason why? Like because the world was coming to an end? Did they mention if it was a first for either of them? its still shocking to me that memebers from either group (themysera or from the Super Family) would do that out of wed lock Although im also one that would be all for them getting married "

 It was their first time, and Conner would die soon after. I really liked the whole thing, it's made especially sad after you finish Infinite Crisis #6. Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can get you a scan... EDIT: I can't; my internet is being weird. Anyway, point is; it wasn't lewd in any way.
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#18  Edited By Erik

If you want to see your favorite super heroes naked and bumping their bits together, just find that stuff on the internet. No need to revolutionize comic book standards. 

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@ILoveComics said:
" So in DC i think its in the series CRY FOR JUSTICE. You have Animal Man's house full of two hot women barely dressed, One of them is totally ok with being naked (starfire) Donna Troy was very skantily Dressed. You see "teen" titans like connor kent and Wonder "girl" having sex. Rose Wilson or Ravager basically does the same.  In Top Cow you have Witchblade wearing even less then most comic heroins.  I mean if your gonna show such skantily clad women just go all the way and get it over with. Marvel did with Marvel Max when it showed power princess nude, and had sex scenes in Punisher Max. DC you should just do that or dress your women better. Its insulting and basically just odd that you show barely dressed women ALL the time and like in the case of starfire are kinda teasing the public. Why dont you just show them nudity already and get it overwith at least SOME nudity. "
Connor and Cassie had a relationship, and Connor died shortly after that scene. Teens having sex is surprising to you? Rose is screwed in the head. Near-nudity in Witchblade mostly occurs when she's using the Witchblade. It's not like she's a slut. The Animal Man example is just silly.  
 
Nudity in comics is mostly gratuitous, which explains why it's stupid. 
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#20  Edited By kadeem
I wouldn't buy or read a comic because it has nudity, but at the same time nudity doesn't bother me either.  Just like any other medium of story telling nudity can be used to help articulate the plot or some one's characterization.  At the same time though I don't think it would be good for comics as a medium of storytelling to include nudity that is there just to be gratuitous, or for fan service.  Comics have a hard enough time already being excepted as a respectable medium of art, and we don't need to worsten the problem.
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" maybe because kids could forget about their moms ever buying them a comic book again. there are other publications for one to find this sort of stuff, not to mention im pretty sure the internet caters to it mucho. "

I see where you are coming from, but most people who buy comics are grown adults.  It would be business suicide for comic companies to produce books as if children where their primary consumers.
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#21  Edited By sexy_merc

This is why Superman wears his underwear on the outside.... genius.

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@kadeem:  
no, you actually dont see where im coming from.
same as him, i do not think you understand what the poster is saying. he is fully aware that there is nudity in 
specific comics. he even pointed some out. what he is suggesting that known mainstream characters be as well.
those characters are open to all age groups, and having them nude, now that would be business suicide.
that would be in the same vein as having your kid show satr masturbating in a porno theater. parents wont go for it.
and sorry but your wrong. the majority of buyers of comics are in fact adults, being moms, but for their kids.
im not explaining this twice either. sorry.
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#23  Edited By kadeem
@CATMANEXE: I wasn't saying that they should make porn form mainstream comic book characters, your taking my words way out of context.  All I said was that we should treat nudity in comics the same way we treat nudity in other story telling mediums.  I also specifically said that if its in there  it should be relevant to the plot and character development, and not be gratuitous (in other words not porn or fanservice). The audience of Saturday morning cartoons is not the same as the audience that actually reads comic books.  Most people who read comic book are not children, but full grown adults.
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#24  Edited By sliceblast

That is totally uncalled for and a desperate way for getting attention.  As if you couldn't get such obsenity online already... why people find these thing intriguing is pafhetic. I don't know but if you're looking for such things in drawings you definilty got a problem.. You know they could be sued for this and there are codes that regulate such improper behavior in childerens magazine or comic book.
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#25  Edited By sliceblast

Really outrageous behavior.

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#26  Edited By kadeem
@sliceblast: Who are you talking to?
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#27  Edited By DeathinFire
@Vance Astro said:
" @ILoveComics said:
" So in DC i think its in the series CRY FOR JUSTICE. You have Animal Man's house full of two hot women barely dressed, One of them is totally ok with being naked (starfire) Donna Troy was very skantily Dressed. You see "teen" titans like connor kent and Wonder "girl" having sex. Rose Wilson or Ravager basically does the same.  In Top Cow you have Witchblade wearing even less then most comic heroins.  I mean if your gonna show such skantily clad women just go all the way and get it over with. Marvel did with Marvel Max when it showed power princess nude, and had sex scenes in Punisher Max. DC you should just do that or dress your women better. Its insulting and basically just odd that you show barely dressed women ALL the time and like in the case of starfire are kinda teasing the public. Why dont you just show them nudity already and get it overwith at least SOME nudity. "
Is this really what you think about when you see females in comics.I mean it's not like I don't notice that Ms.Marvel,Powergirl etc. are half naked but is it really that big a deal? I don't want nudity in my comics.It's there in MAX comics and there's almost never a need for it.It's like MAX knows that the comics are uncensored so the profanity and sex is just randomly thrown in.The only MAX comics that are actually good is the Punisher.The rest of that stuff is borderline Hentai Manga.Pure crap. "
I agree about most of the MAX line, but there are a few thrown in that aren't all that bad (Foolkiller is NOT one of them). 
 
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" i find nothing wrong with boobs or swear words boobs are a natural part of the human body and swear words have never actually causeed any kind of real damage in fact i find it amusing that on tv shows like heros and the like its perfectly ok to show some one getting their skull cut open as long as theyre not naked or cussing while its happening. "
Another good point.  Personally I think an exposed chest is a lot less graphic then someone getting a hole punched through their skull. 
 
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" Lol read Crossed "
'Nuff said
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#28  Edited By G Bird

We could of gone without seeing Dr. Manhattan's big blue meat swinging all over the place in Watchmen though lol!

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#29  Edited By KattVonNoir

@sliceblast:
alot of comics now adays arent targeted towards children.....get over it.

 

THAT aside most like boob shots or w/e in movies seem like out of place/fan service and it would be way harder to portray in comics and if they are gonna start having breasts all over the place then it should be equal and have male nudity as well, but I'm sure that wont happen cause alot of guys would complain and whine.

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@inferiorego:  
hence why i said "aren't targeted towards children" in other words are meant for adults....
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#31  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
@KattVonNoir said:
" @inferiorego:  hence why i said "aren't targeted towards children" in other words are meant for adults.... "
my reading abilities have failed me today. :-(
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well, i do believe what the Op is saying if im reading it right, is not that there should be comics with nudity (since there already
are, in fact my Night Of The Living Dead comic sprung some real X-rated type stuff on me recently). but he was saying that books 
like Teen Titans, and i quote should have nudity in them, sinice mature rated books already do, which was at least what i know i was talking against. and if you think Teen Titans should have full frontal nude Starfire and Donna going on in it, more the power to you but i definatly dont see it happening, and personally for the sake of a portion of the age group that does read Titans i also would vote against it if it came to it.

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#33  Edited By KattVonNoir
@inferiorego:
lol np np =]
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#35  Edited By shanana

The comic i ready the other day went much much further than Nudity O_O

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#36  Edited By Aronmorales

I enjoy it when my heroes become personal, but TOO personal? Not for me.
Refer to sex, don't show it, and I'm fine.
 
I also have a problem with certain characters using certain words, but that is a rant for another time.

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#38  Edited By shanana
@aztek the lost said:
" @Sha said:
" The comic i ready the other day went much much further than Nudity O_O "
we all know you have some interesting tastes but we don't need the details "
Oh hush, I didn't say anything.
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#39  Edited By KattVonNoir
@aztek the lost:  
I disagree with the whole vagina shot thing. it is SO much more appropriate    to be full frontal nudity of a woman than it is for a man to be, that is why everyone was all "OMG WHAT?!" when Dr. Manhattan came on screen. It's not as common as seeing a vagina. And a girl being topless is NOT the same as a man being topless, I have had this discussion with so many of my male friends that say its equal because some dude is walking around topless. I'm sorry but no men have made breasts super over sexualized it's just not the same. 
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actually Three-Willied Seth had...ah, screw it. 
i'm going to go have a milkshake.

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#43  Edited By kadeem

It may be worth pointing out that depictions of female nudity are generally much more accepted than depictions of male nudity in every medium, not just comic books.  For me its just an issue of is the story being told effectively.  There are some stories that nudity can be effectively placed in certain parts of to actually help tell the story.  There are also other stories that if you throw nudity in will be seem awkwardly placed or even distasteful.

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#44  Edited By CylonDorado

Dude, just buy real porn.
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#45  Edited By umbrafeline

marvel made a max comic line? when was this?
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#46  Edited By kadeem
@CylonDorado: No one here is talking about porn.  We are talking about what place nudity has in effective story telling.  People who like porn go to it for reasons completely different than wanting to be told a good story.  If we were talking about any other medium of story telling such as movies or novels, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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#47  Edited By CylonDorado

@kadeem:
Meh, I don't think it would add much.

 
Aside from adding one more thing for a kid to hide under his matress.

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#48  Edited By Mighty Thorion
@ILoveComics:
DC and Marvel are in the business of making money. Sex sells - simple as. If they think  a scantilly clad Starfire, Ms Marvel or whoever is gonna boost sales, they're going to depict whichever heroine in said manner.
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#49  Edited By courtney12490
@kadeem said:
" @CylonDorado: No one here is talking about porn.  We are talking about what place nudity has in effective story telling.  People who like porn go to it for reasons completely different than wanting to be told a good story.  If we were talking about any other medium of story telling such as movies or novels, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. "
I don't think that nudity has that big a place in effective story telling, and you're right about other mediums. I think that most people (especially my fellow americans) view nudity as this huge nono, whether it be in comic books or movies, but are fine with swearing and loads and loads of gore. I personally, would prefer nudity to unnecessarily gory comic books or movies (i.e. any of the saw movies)
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#50  Edited By Harlekin

I believe that nudity in Comics is ok and can be an effective method of storytelling, but not for more Marvel and DC. I'm with Robert Kirkman when he says Marvel and DC should change there focus group to a younger demographic.