#1 Posted by DEGRAAF (7909 posts) - - Show Bio

is it true Black Cat, Cat Woman, Sue Dibney and Dick Grayson were all raped? I think i remember reading about the last two. This is very unappealing. Even when it is in comics or movies or books, it just pisses me off and makes me want to stop reading or watching whatever it is that has it and and burn the medium its on. Does this bother any one else?

#2 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
@DEGRAAF:  
Black Cat was. It is part of her origin story. 
#3 Posted by crimsonspider89 (817 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, they were. But it happens in real life tons of time. 
 
Rogue was raped when she was captured and depowered once as well.  I have no problem with it being presented in comics, makes it seem more realistic.

#4 Edited by Vance Astro (91368 posts) - - Show Bio

Ms.Marvel has been raped was well IIRC.Also Spider-Woman,and Jessica Jones-Cage have been raped.It doesn't bother me because it adds realism.Women get raped in real life.I would imagine they would in a fictional reality as well.

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#5 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Batman was raped aswell.

#6 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Cat was raped? When exacly?

#7 Posted by Vance Astro (91368 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
" Black Cat was raped? When exacly? "
@erik said:
" @DEGRAAF:  Black Cat was. It is part of her origin story.  "
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#8 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro: LOL thanx i guess...
#9 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

Read The Boys, they point out this flaw in the comic industry so perfectly with Starlight (and A-Train)

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#10 Posted by Vathers (87 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait, Dick was raped?   By who?

#11 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio

before Black Canary came along Sin was raped and sexually abused all the time
#12 Posted by No_Name_ (17409 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by DEGRAAF (7909 posts) - - Show Bio

idk, i was never sexually abused but ive known alot of woman that have been. I think comics can still be real and not have that in them. plus if i wanted realism i would watch the news

#14 Posted by Vathers (87 posts) - - Show Bio

@Babs
 
I'm actually upset about how Dick was misled by his feelings for the woman.  I know he cared very much for Barbara and it saddens me that the events that occurred had such a nasty impact on his life.  He's never had a good life, one of the more..... victimized characters of DC's comics.

#15 Posted by Dane (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think it should be present in comics as much as it is. imo it's a go-to plot device to make a character seem more evil.

#16 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane said:
" I don't think it should be present in comics as much as it is. imo it's a go-to plot device to make a character seem more evil. "
It works though. As the saying goes, "If it aint broke...."
#17 Posted by Theodore (3445 posts) - - Show Bio

Comedian tries to rape the Silk Spectre as well

#18 Posted by Vance Astro (91368 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dracade102 said:
"    Wait... Wasn't Black Manta Raped in his origin too? o_O these kinda things confued me when i wuz a kid reading Comic books... "
I'm sorry but...LMFAO.
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#19 Posted by Dane (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped.

#20 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane said:
" It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped. "
Has Wolverine? Serious question, no sarcasm intended. Mind rape does not count. 
#21 Posted by Dane (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
" @Dane said:
" It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped. "
Has Wolverine? Serious question, no sarcasm intended. Mind rape does not count.  "
Not possible. Wolverine doesn't turn down anything.
#22 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane said:
" @erik said:
" @Dane said:
" It's the laziest plot device on the planet and it's overused so much nearly every female character and a good percentage of male characters have been raped. "
Has Wolverine? Serious question, no sarcasm intended. Mind rape does not count.  "
Not possible. Wolverine doesn't turn down anything. "
Lol. 
#23 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dracade102 said:
"    Wait... Wasn't Black Manta Raped in his origin too? o_O these kinda things confued me when i wuz a kid reading Comic books... "
Ya actually he was sexually abused lol and swore revenge on the mighty sea
#24 Posted by rein (1330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
wait.... The sea raped him lol?
#25 Posted by Dane (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

wait, what? he was sexually abused by the sea? how the...

#26 Posted by rein (1330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane said:
" wait, what? he was sexually abused by the sea? how the... "
Maybe that's what an undertow is?
#27 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio

No he was raped and abused by thugs

#28 Posted by Dane (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

thats a pretty weak origin story.

#29 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dracade102 said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Dracade102 said:
"    Wait... Wasn't Black Manta Raped in his origin too? o_O these kinda things confued me when i wuz a kid reading Comic books... "
Ya actually he was sexually abused lol and swore revenge on the mighty sea "
I knew it was something along the lines of that!!! Thanks!!! ....But wait... "lol" @ him being sexually abused??? O_O ...What did poor Manta ever do to you?? "
Kill people
#30 Edited by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane said:

" thats a pretty weak origin story. "

His Pre Crisis story is better
#31 Posted by The Mast (790 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.
 
Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.
 
I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him.

#32 Edited by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mast said:

" Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.  Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.  I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him. "

Sinister is tapping Cyclops'...... power?
#33 Posted by War Killer (20376 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe Kate Bishop was raped as well, that's what gave her the urge to become such a good fighter, so that it wuldn't happen again. I hate it as well, I mean I understand if it's apart of their origin, like Kate's for example because that shows why they chose to become who they are today, but when it came to Black Cat, Dick, and I even think there was a thread about Thor getting raped on here once, that's just pointless.

#34 Posted by The Mast (790 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
" @The Mast said:

" Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.  Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.  I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him. "

Sinister is tapping Cyclops'...... power? "
 
Nope, Sinister wants Cyclops' OTHER body part with one eye...
#35 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I'm fine with rape in any media. Can't avoid a real life issue.

#36 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mast said:
" @erik said:
" @The Mast said:

" Someone actually said to me that there are two crimes that don't seem to happen in comics; paedophilia and rape.  Murder's fine, but not those two. I do find that odd, but I also totally understand it. With that said, something upping the stakes or emotional investment of a story by including a horrific crime can have a huge pay off. The most critically acclaimed things always tend to go for broke a little.  I always wanted the whole Mr. Sinister/Cyclops dynamic to be touched on, when he was in the orphanage and Sinister used to mess with him. "

Sinister is tapping Cyclops'...... power? "
 Nope, Sinister wants Cyclops' OTHER body part with one eye... "
Lol you nasty. 
#37 Posted by EisforExtinction (1909 posts) - - Show Bio

Why avoid a real life issue in your comic books?
 
Huntress was also sexually abused as a child.

#38 Posted by crimsonspider89 (817 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I mean, having real life issues in comics make it where people can relate to the characters better. 

#39 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the OP should have a list of all the characters being posted. 

#40 Posted by White Mage (18748 posts) - - Show Bio
@crimsonspider89 said:
"Yeah, they were. But it happens in real life tons of time.  Rogue was raped when she was captured and depowered once as well.  I have no problem with it being presented in comics, makes it seem more realistic. "
Ok, I seriously don't remember the Rogue part. 
@Vance Astro:
Jessica Jones-Cage?  When? 
 
#41 Posted by Theodore (3445 posts) - - Show Bio

So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped?

#42 Posted by Vathers (87 posts) - - Show Bio
@Theodore: 
 
Evidently, in order to invoke sympathy even Dick was not immune.  
 
 
 
I strongly dislike the content I just read about with Dick being.... abused.
 
I'm writing to DC comics about this crap.
#43 Posted by White Mage (18748 posts) - - Show Bio
@Theodore said:
"So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped? "
I'm sorry, but I feel that this comment is a bit dumb.
#44 Posted by Vathers (87 posts) - - Show Bio
@White Mage said:
" @Theodore said:
"So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped? "
I'm sorry, but I feel that this comment is a bit dumb. "
Well it seems you might have mistaken the context in which he wrote it.
#45 Posted by White Mage (18748 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vathers said:
" @White Mage said:
" @Theodore said:
"So in order to become a female hero you need to get raped? "
I'm sorry, but I feel that this comment is a bit dumb. "
Well it seems you might have mistaken the context in which he wrote it. "
I understand the context in which he wrote it, and I still stand by my original statement. 
#46 Posted by Dane (10632 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vathers said:
" @Theodore: 
 
Evidently, in order to invoke sympathy even Dick was not immune.  
 
 
 
I strongly dislike the content I just read about with Dick being.... abused.
 
I'm writing to DC comics about this crap. "
90% of DC characters have been raped, I don't think they care.
#47 Posted by Nerx (15087 posts) - - Show Bio

I got a list of comic book rapists if anyone is interested 

#48 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:
" I got a list of comic book rapists if anyone is interested  "
Post it. 
#49 Posted by Vathers (87 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane: 
 
Nonetheless, I fully intend on making my dissatisfaction known.
 
@Nerx:
 
Why would you compile a list of those who do such things in the literary sense even?
#50 Posted by White Mage (18748 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vathers:  
 
The same reason why there is a list of people who have been victimized.