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#1 Edited by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

I know secret invasion is still on going but i think theres been more SI titles in other stories as well as the core book as they were Civil War stories so i think its about time we can fairly compare the two.

So who prefered the Civil War ? And whose enjoying Secret Invasion more ?

Make sure you add why folks.

#2 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio

I've preferred Civil War.  Secret Invasion said int he beginning that it was going to change the MU forever, and, I don't see how that's possible with only teo issues left in the main title and nothing really changing yet.  Civil War really did change the MU and it's aftermath can be felt even know in mostly every title.  It also, imho, had better storytelling and amuch better concept.

#3 Edited by Fellfire (30 posts) - - Show Bio

Secret Invasion.

i don't like fascist victories in my comic books.

I went there!

#4 Posted by Slinger (7640 posts) - - Show Bio

They are both equal on my opinion. The Civil War may have been a better written, but I like the scope and scale of Secret Invasion. I also am enjoying the artwork in Secret Invasion more than Civil war. If Annihilation were an option though, that would be number one in my book, it had an enormous impact on the Marvel U.

#5 Posted by Duke Checkmate III (361 posts) - - Show Bio

Civil War to me was more realistic..the really gave it this sort of feel like it was actually happening and that the comics we were reading was like a TV show or the newspaper and I was keeping up to date on what was going down in my country.There was some great fight scenes and alot came out of Civil War in fact it killed of alot of people that nobody really cared about like black Goliath and half of the New Warriors.They killed off Cap who is one of my favorite characters but I actually liked Bucky more so I am glad that he is Cap now.Overall I think Secret Invasion is better because of the suspense and the mystery and it is bringing the untied front of the Avengers back..which I really enjoy.You never know what's going to happen and I like that most of all...plus I don't have to be torn between sides because all my favorite heroes are on the same side.

#6 Posted by fesak (6994 posts) - - Show Bio

SI is disappointing so far, almost no important characters at all has been revealed as Skrulls. It would have had much more impact if they had a couple of A-Listers, and maybe even someone with their own solo title revealed as Skrulls. Then there would be some real impact of the story, and you would actually suspect everyone to be a potential skrull.

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#7 Posted by Duke Checkmate III (361 posts) - - Show Bio
fesak said:
, almost no important characters at all has been revealed as Skrulls. 
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There has only been like 8 reveals...Isn't Blackbolt,Elektra,Hank Pym,and Spider-Woman enough? SI is almost over so I doubt there will be a reveal of someone with their own comic...they played with Iron Man being one for a while.I understand where your coming from though..An A list skrull reveal would be pretty major but...they don't want to mess up anyone's books...it seems that most of the things going on in current titles are happening after Secret Invasion.
#8 Posted by fesak (6994 posts) - - Show Bio

The way SI was advertised was that you wasn't supposed to know who was a skrull and not, and there would be 'many shocking reveals', almost false advertising imo.
Also, Elektra was revealed before, and Black Bolt and Spider-Woman everyone already figured out, so that leaves Pym as the major reveal of this story, and i don't think anyone yelled OH, SH&%!!1 at that reveal, more like ummm... okay. Hardly a great payoff for a big storyline, he's not exactly A-List anymore.

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#9 Posted by Duke Checkmate III (361 posts) - - Show Bio
fesak said:
"The way SI was advertised was that you wasn't supposed to know who was a skrull and not, and there would be 'many shocking reveals', almost false advertising imo.
Also, Elektra was revealed before, and Black Bolt and Spider-Woman everyone already figured out, so that leaves Pym as the major reveal of this story, and i don't think anyone yelled OH, SH&%!!1 at that reveal, more like ummm... okay. Hardly a great payoff for a big storyline, he's not exactly A-List anymore."
Well that's true but I think the way the A-lists books are going Bendis would be cutting into a storyline someone is already writing and make them have to tie that in.I think that's why they chose people like Pym,Elektra,and Jessica because they have ties to major characters and are part of major organizations but Bendis wouldn't have to take from what someone else is doing to reveal them as skrulls.I completely understand how you feel...the way all the A-list books seem to be over and done with SI...really pisses me off and the continuity is all wonky and I can't piece it together so I don't even try anymore.There is always still a chance for reveals though we have a few more books to go.
#10 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

CW.

#11 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

Civil War

#12 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio
fesak said:
"SI is disappointing so far, almost no important characters at all has been revealed as Skrulls. It would have had much more impact if they had a couple of A-Listers, and maybe even someone with their own solo title revealed as Skrulls. Then there would be some real impact of the story, and you would actually suspect everyone to be a potential skrull.
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Well, Deadpool sold himself out to the skrulls so he might as well be a skrull i think. But yeah your right, at one point i was convinced that Tony Stark was a skrull but apparently Marvel didn't have the balls to make it so. However, CW was what spawned my dislike of Tony in the first place and i think of many fans. Civil War made your favourite characters choose (ot not if you love The Thing) and what if you didn't agree with their choice ? Where does that leave you ? SI isn't innocent from this dissapointment either because what if your favourite character is a skrull (well then as fesak points out your favourite Marvel hero isn't an A lister)

Duke Checkmate III said:
"fesak said: There has only been like 8 reveals...Isn't Blackbolt,Elektra,Hank Pym,and Spider-Woman enough? SI is almost over so I doubt there will be a reveal of someone with their own comic...they played with Iron Man being one for a while.I understand where your coming from though..An A list skrull reveal would be pretty major but...they don't want to mess up anyone's books...it seems that most of the things going on in current titles are happening after Secret Invasion."

My Skrull Watch 08 list on my wall i have, Spiderwoman, Edwin Jarvis, Echo, Yellowjacket, Hank Pym, Emma Frost, Captain Marvel and Longshot on my list.
#13 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
"fesak said:
"SI is disappointing so far, almost no important characters at all has been revealed as Skrulls. It would have had much more impact if they had a couple of A-Listers, and maybe even someone with their own solo title revealed as Skrulls. Then there would be some real impact of the story, and you would actually suspect everyone to be a potential skrull.
"
Well, Deadpool sold himself out to the skrulls so he might as well be a skrull i think. But yeah your right, at one point i was convinced that Tony Stark was a skrull but apparently Marvel didn't have the balls to make it so. However, CW was what spawned my dislike of Tony in the first place and i think of many fans. Civil War made your favourite characters choose (ot not if you love The Thing) and what if you didn't agree with their choice ? Where does that leave you ? SI isn't innocent from this dissapointment either because what if your favourite character is a skrull (well then as fesak points out your favourite Marvel hero isn't an A lister)

Duke Checkmate III said:
"fesak said: There has only been like 8 reveals...Isn't Blackbolt,Elektra,Hank Pym,and Spider-Woman enough? SI is almost over so I doubt there will be a reveal of someone with their own comic...they played with Iron Man being one for a while.I understand where your coming from though..An A list skrull reveal would be pretty major but...they don't want to mess up anyone's books...it seems that most of the things going on in current titles are happening after Secret Invasion."

My Skrull Watch 08 list on my wall i have, Spiderwoman, Edwin Jarvis, Echo, Yellowjacket, Hank Pym, Emma Frost, Captain Marvel and Longshot on my list."
Echo and Emma aren't skrulls.....
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#14 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm actually enjoying Secret Invasion more, but mostly its cause I've really started liking Noh-Varr recently and SI is leading up to something with him. SI tie-ins are also the only way I can read about him right now anyways. As for the otherall though, Civil War was really awesome, but I like the concept of SI more. Civil War really only impacted the United States(which is where most the Marvel Universe is) but SI is not just a Gobal threat to the Marvel Universe but could/is a galactic threat as well.

#15 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

To Vance Astro... Really ? I thought the beam that Reed Richrads shot down into the Savage Land revealed her to be a skrull, i'm sure of it.

Echo ? well i'm sure he was replaced by a skrull sleeper agent in an advert for Secret Invasion months ago, i'll hunt down a link.

#16 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
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To Vance Astro... Really ? I thought the beam that Reed Richrads shot down into the Savage Land revealed her to be a skrull, i'm sure of it.

Echo ? well i'm sure he was replaced by a skrull sleeper agent in an advert for Secret Invasion months ago, i'll hunt down a link.

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That was the Emma that got off that ship though, not Emma that is with the current X-Men.
#17 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

*scribbles Emma of Skrull watch list.   

ty


Im on Marvels site now trying to find that trailer, *curses stupid amount of videos for SI

#18 Posted by Slinger (7640 posts) - - Show Bio

The trailer said the skrulls failed to replace Echo, I know the one you are talking about.

#19 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
Slinger said:
"The trailer said the skrulls failed to replace Echo, I know the one you are talking about."
They did it was a Daredevil like Skrull I think that attempted. Wolverine showed up to help her out.
#20 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes just viewed it and it says "infration failed"

#21 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio

......... SI Longshot was a skrull... current is not.

#22 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
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To Vance Astro... Really ? I thought the beam that Reed Richrads shot down into the Savage Land revealed her to be a skrull, i'm sure of it.

Echo ? well i'm sure he was replaced by a skrull sleeper agent in an advert for Secret Invasion months ago, i'll hunt down a link.

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#1 Echo is a SHE!
#2 Echo wasn't replaced because the skrulls said they failed to capture her
#3 She was knocked out for most of the Invasion..the skrull Queen slammed her into a tree
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#23 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't know. I only came across Longshot in the Darwin awards 3 part in XFactor and She Hulk.

#24 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Kieran Marvel said:
"

To Vance Astro... Really ? I thought the beam that Reed Richrads shot down into the Savage Land revealed her to be a skrull, i'm sure of it.

Echo ? well i'm sure he was replaced by a skrull sleeper agent in an advert for Secret Invasion months ago, i'll hunt down a link.

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#1 Echo is a SHE!
#2 Echo wasn't replaced because the skrulls said they failed to capture her
#3 She was knocked out for most of the Invasion..the skrull Queen slammed her into a tree
"
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#25 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
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I wouldn't know. I only came across Longshot in the Darwin awards 3 part in XFactor and She Hulk.

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Ok.......................... well you need to sort it out cos most of the stuff that you're saying is wrong.
#26 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio

civil war was horrible

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#27 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

geez man typo error

#28 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"

Serious? The art was fabulous.
#29 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

whoa whoa whoa.


How can the notion of Longshot being a skrull be wrong when they was a 3 part tie in revolving around it ?

#30 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
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whoa whoa whoa.


How can the notion of Longshot being a skrull be wrong when they was a 3 part tie in revolving around it ?

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The real one came back you fool.
#31 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"
................
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#32 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't read X Factor #35 yet JV

#33 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
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I haven't read X Factor #35 yet JV

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Understandable :s. Sorry for partially spoiling it man.
#34 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio

Its ok, XFactors's been going down hill lately i've been contemplating abandoning ship

#35 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"
................"
you liked it?
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#36 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"

Serious? The art was fabulous."
The Arachne/ms. marvel bit bothered me
And the lack of Participation from the X-men left me with nothing to want to read
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#37 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"John Valentine said:
"pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"

Serious? The art was fabulous."
The Arachne/ms. marvel bit bothered me
And the lack of Participation from the X-men left me with nothing to want to read
"
1.The Arachne\Ms.Marvel thing bothered me too
2.The X-men didn't have to register...thus NO X-men...
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#38 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
"Its ok, XFactors's been going down hill lately i've been contemplating abandoning ship"

Don't give up hope. It used to be sooooo good from issues 1 - 21 then it beagn to drag...............
#39 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"John Valentine said:
"pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"

Serious? The art was fabulous."
The Arachne/ms. marvel bit bothered me
And the lack of Participation from the X-men left me with nothing to want to read
"
1.The Arachne\Ms.Marvel thing bothered me too
2.The X-men didn't have to register...thus NO X-men...
"
Fairdos, I'm an avengers fan too .... so it was fine for me.
#40 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"John Valentine said:
"pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"

Serious? The art was fabulous."
The Arachne/ms. marvel bit bothered me
And the lack of Participation from the X-men left me with nothing to want to read
"
1.The Arachne\Ms.Marvel thing bothered me too
2.The X-men didn't have to register...thus NO X-men...
"
1. Fighting in front of the daughter...Come on Carol...have some class....it wasn't that serious.
2. Exactly why i didn't like it
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#41 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"John Valentine said:
"pixelized said:
"civil war was horrible"

Serious? The art was fabulous."
The Arachne/ms. marvel bit bothered me
And the lack of Participation from the X-men left me with nothing to want to read
"
1.The Arachne\Ms.Marvel thing bothered me too
2.The X-men didn't have to register...thus NO X-men...
"
1. Fighting in front of the daughter...Come on Carol...have some class....it wasn't that serious.
2. Exactly why i didn't like it
"
That was played up..Carol could have killed her if she wanted to.
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#42 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio

and then rachel could have become Arachne to avenge her mother!

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#43 Posted by Kieran Marvel (154 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Kieran Marvel said:
"Its ok, XFactors's been going down hill lately i've been contemplating abandoning ship"

Don't give up hope. It used to be sooooo good from issues 1 - 21 then it beagn to drag..............."

Agreed. And thanks man, your the second today whose said stick with it so i think i'll carry on with my reading and review it again around issue 40
#44 Edited by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"and then rachel could have become Arachne to avenge her mother!"
She'd get killed too.
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#45 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"and then rachel could have become Arachne to avenge her mother!"
She'd get killed too."
LOl no she wouldn't...She'd Murder carol in her sleep
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#46 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
Kieran Marvel said:
"John Valentine said:
"Kieran Marvel said:
"Its ok, XFactors's been going down hill lately i've been contemplating abandoning ship"

Don't give up hope. It used to be sooooo good from issues 1 - 21 then it beagn to drag..............."

Agreed. And thanks man, your the second today whose said stick with it so i think i'll carry on with my reading and review it again around issue 40"

Who else said taht?
#47 Posted by Erik (29800 posts) - - Show Bio
fesak said:
"SI is disappointing so far, almost no important characters at all has been revealed as Skrulls. It would have had much more impact if they had a couple of A-Listers, and maybe even someone with their own solo title revealed as Skrulls. Then there would be some real impact of the story, and you would actually suspect everyone to be a potential skrull.
"
It's true that everyone figured Spider-Woman out. But nobody was able to say that she has been a skrull from the very beginning. I found that to be a real shocker, not to mention a big let down because she was my favorite character on the New Avengers. I thought that she was an A-lister.
#48 Posted by pixelized (62881 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Kieran Marvel said:
"Its ok, XFactors's been going down hill lately i've been contemplating abandoning ship"

Don't give up hope. It used to be sooooo good from issues 1 - 21 then it beagn to drag..............."
I blame Jamie and his monologues
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#49 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"John Valentine said:
"Kieran Marvel said:
"Its ok, XFactors's been going down hill lately i've been contemplating abandoning ship"

Don't give up hope. It used to be sooooo good from issues 1 - 21 then it beagn to drag..............."
I blame Jamie and his monologues"
I blame retarded Jaime from Age of Apocalypse with the diaper on.
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#50 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"John Valentine said:
"Kieran Marvel said:
"Its ok, XFactors's been going down hill lately i've been contemplating abandoning ship"

Don't give up hope. It used to be sooooo good from issues 1 - 21 then it beagn to drag..............."
I blame Jamie and his monologues"

Those monologues made my day: you take that comment back!