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#1 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

In your opinion, can opinions be wrong or right? Or is it the opposite, that an opinion isn't wrong or right?

#2 Posted by Strafe Prower (11892 posts) - - Show Bio

Opinions can be wrong or right.

I could think that Bill Clinton has been the best US president in history, but that doesn't make it correct.

#3 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strafe Power ----- Exactly. My opinion could be that the Earth is flat, but that would obviously be wrong. I was just debating with this new member if opinions can be wrong or right, and I wanted to see what other people thought.

#4 Posted by Joygirl (19954 posts) - - Show Bio

Not only can they be, most of them are.

#5 Edited by MasterM0r0n (333 posts) - - Show Bio

"No opinion is wrong, because it's only a person's stand point on a subject or idea. It is only wrong if it is expressed in a negative way."

"Your opinion can't be wrong because it is an opinion. It is your view on a topic or issue and it can neither be right nor wrong."

"your opinion cannot be wrong. it is what you think whether it is backed up by experience, facts, or what have you. opinions cannot be proven wrong. it is simply a thought. a fact is a fact whether proven wrong or not, but an opinion is always right."

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100511151128AAJSDaE

And read this article.

http://zacsky.com/2011/03/an-opinion-is-never-wrong/

Hope you read all that.

That's what I think. :) ;D Escpecially the quotes.

This is my opinion.

Hope you guys know which "new member" ImTheDamnBatman was debating with.

And also I'm not a new member, but if you think I am, that's your opinion.

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#6 Posted by CptPanda29 (211 posts) - - Show Bio

Opinions are only applicable to a moral or theological standing.

The flat Earth thing isn't an opinion, it's either ill informed or ignorance. You can't prove and opinion, only justify it.

#7 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

a better question: can a wrong be an opinion?

#8 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@CptPanda29 I disagree. If my opinion was that murderers are moral people, that would be wrong.

#9 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterM0r0n You consider "Yahoo Answers" a reliable source?

#10 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35130 posts) - - Show Bio
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
@CptPanda29 I disagree. If my opinion was that murderers are moral people, that would be wrong.
It's not wrong in a universal sense 
#11 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. An opinion can be wrong.

If you said, "In my opinion, the Sun revolves around the Earth", your opinion would be wrong.

It's that simple.

#12 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

The irony of this is that we're giving our opinions on opinions.

#13 Posted by TheCannon (19463 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Opinions aren't right or wrong. They are your opinions.

#14 Posted by grenade728 (746 posts) - - Show Bio

opinion |əˈpinyən|noun-a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge: I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance | that, in my opinion, is dead right.• the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about aparticular thing: the changing climate of opinion.(opinion of) an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something: I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved.a formal statement of advice by an expert on a professional matter: seeking a second opinion from a specialist.Law a formal statement of reasons for a judgment given.• Law a lawyer's advice on the merits of a case.

This is according to the dictionary on my computer. So draw you conclusions how ever you like.

#15 Edited by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

I could say that molesters are really cool guys, and shouldn't be in incarcerated, but we'll all know that's f****d up, and totally wrong.

So, to answer your question, YES.

#16 Posted by MrShway88 (679 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123: Thats not an opinion

#17 Posted by MrShway88 (679 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW: Its an opinion that is it wrong. It is just a common opinion shared by many

#18 Posted by Razero (336 posts) - - Show Bio

An opinion can't be wrong.

It can however, be stupid.

#19 Posted by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

That would beg the higher question: What is truth?

Nah. Screw all that philosophical junk. Of course opinions can be wrong.

#20 Posted by YoungJustice (6919 posts) - - Show Bio

No. An opinion is one's viewpoint on something, can't nessecarily say it's wrong.

#21 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (15132 posts) - - Show Bio

Opinions are overrated. Fact are better. and that is a fact.

#22 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

An opinion cannot be wrong because it literally is a point of view not based on facts/real knowledge.

So even if the opinion is incorrect, it is their opinion, therefore it cannot be corrected.

If a person chooses to say that their opinion is a fact, and it is incorrect, then yeah it counts.

It is kind of confusing......

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#23 Posted by White Mage (18751 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@CptPanda29 I disagree. If my opinion was that murderers are moral people, that would be wrong.

Like HELL

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@Strafe Power ----- Exactly. My opinion could be that the Earth is flat, but that would obviously be wrong. I was just debating with this new member if opinions can be wrong or right, and I wanted to see what other people thought.

That's not an opinion. That's you stating a false fact. That's just grounds for you going back to school.

#24 Edited by SimonM7 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course opinion can't be wrong. It's entirely predicated on the lack on concrete facts in a matter, its very definition suggests subjectivity.

You can BE WRONG or BE RIGHT, obviously, but those are concepts divorced from opinions. Doesn't stop people from beating one another over the head with opinions though.

#25 Posted by JediXMan (31313 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

Yes. An opinion can be wrong.

If you said, "In my opinion, the Sun revolves around the Earth", your opinion would be wrong.

It's that simple.

This.

Yes, opinions can be wrong.

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#26 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

Opinions can't be wrong. But people call viewpoints opinions when they are really fallacies. Opinions can't be wrong, but views can be misdefined as opinions.

#27 Posted by entropy_aegis (15445 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

Yes. An opinion can be wrong.

If you said, "In my opinion, the Sun revolves around the Earth", your opinion would be wrong.

It's that simple.

This.

Yes, opinions can be wrong.

This x2,I'm getting sick and tired of people who justify their idiocy and ignorance by simply claiming"it's my opinion".

#28 Posted by Inverno (13292 posts) - - Show Bio

There is no such thing as right or wrong opinions. However they can be easily ignored or dismissed.

#29 Posted by Swagger462 (382 posts) - - Show Bio

Only subjectively.

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#30 Posted by Thirteen13 (415 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

An opinion cannot be wrong because it literally is a point of view not based on facts/real knowledge.

So even if the opinion is incorrect, it is their opinion, therefore it cannot be corrected.

Pretty much this, an opinion cannot be wrong as it is either something subjective dependent on an individual's taste or preference, or their own point of view on a matter. However, if someone tries to pass off their personal opinion as a fact of any kind that is wrong.

#31 Posted by SC (13396 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread is painful.  
 
An opinion can be unfounded, or flawed, or lacking reason, or inaccurate, or objectively untrue or its basis or foundation can be made up of untruths or inaccuracies but no, an opinion can't really be wrong, because its a persons understanding/perspective. If a person's opinion is say that they think that the Earth is flat "In my opinion the Earth is flat" then that they think that and believe that, if that really is there opinion, is truth and right. Factually they would be wrong, and here it would be because of their reasoning or understanding, since an opinion by definition is a belief rather than a factual assertion. Just obviously there will be overlap. People can have opinions about subjective truths and objective facts. This overlap can create an argument of semantics but basically because opinions don't have to be justified and people don't have to change them in the face of facts they can just be asserted unopposed and based on flimsy or flawed reasoning and foundations. So ultimately depends on the perspectives being applied.  

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#32 Posted by quirky_anecdotes (344 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@CptPanda29 I disagree. If my opinion was that murderers are moral people, that would be wrong.

So you think that American Soldiers and Police Officers are amoral? Unless you're a hypocrite.

#33 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18802 posts) - - Show Bio

depends on the subject , i mean you really can't be right or wrong about music or movies, since to one the others better and to the other something else is better , example: i prefer pesi but to someone else cola might be better. but if i debeate with someone on weather the the earth is square or not then i can be most defiantly wrong .

#34 Posted by GuruOfFunk (441 posts) - - Show Bio

@quirky_anecdotes said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@CptPanda29 I disagree. If my opinion was that murderers are moral people, that would be wrong.

So you think that American Soldiers and Police Officers are amoral? Unless you're a hypocrite.

American Soldiers kill people and Police Officers are put into situations where they have to be ready to kill but he isn't talking about them nor does that make him a hypocrite. A murderer is defined as a criminal who commits homicide (who performs the unlawful premeditated killing of another human being). Police Officers/Soldiers are not that, the killing they do and murdering someone/committing homicide are two TOTALLY different things.

But as for opinions it's already been said, someone can have a really illogical or stupid one but that doesn't make it wrong. A person can have an opinion on something and have the majority of people disagree with them (like if I thought Rob Liefeld was an AMAZING artist :) ) but at the end of the day there is not a right or wrong answer to it, there's just what the majority of people think and everyone else.

#35 Posted by quirky_anecdotes (344 posts) - - Show Bio

@GuruOfFunk said:

@quirky_anecdotes said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

@CptPanda29 I disagree. If my opinion was that murderers are moral people, that would be wrong.

So you think that American Soldiers and Police Officers are amoral? Unless you're a hypocrite.

American Soldiers kill people and Police Officers are put into situations where they have to be ready to kill but he isn't talking about them nor does that make him a hypocrite. A murderer is defined as a criminal who commits homicide (who performs the unlawful premeditated killing of another human being). Police Officers/Soldiers are not that, the killing they do and murdering someone/committing homicide are two TOTALLY different things.

But as for opinions it's already been said, someone can have a really illogical or stupid one but that doesn't make it wrong. A person can have an opinion on something and have the majority of people disagree with them (like if I thought Rob Liefeld was an AMAZING artist :) ) but at the end of the day there is not a right or wrong answer to it, there's just what the majority of people think and everyone else.

but what makes one unlawful and the other lawful other then public opinion?

#36 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio
@blackadamFTW said:

I could say that molesters are really cool guys, and shouldn't be in incarcerated, but we'll all know that's f****d up, and totally wrong.

So, to answer your question, YES.

Bingo.
#37 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10130 posts) - - Show Bio

Only FTBBs lol

=^-^=

#38 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

To anyone saying opinions can't be wrong because they are by definition not based on facts; That only means opinions aren't necesarilly right. Opinions going against the established facts and evidence can very much be wrong.

#39 Edited by GuruOfFunk (441 posts) - - Show Bio

@quirky_anecdotes:

Nothing at all.

He's implying that murderers have to be amoral people and your example says that soldiers and police are the same as murderers because they too, kill. I'm saying that the act of killing and the act of murder are two different things yet at the end of the day all three are just opinions.

If he believes that murderers cannot be moral people he doesn't have to think of police officers as amoral. He can think that what they do is a completely different thing than what murderers do because as we both say it's just opinion, the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.Your example implies that what police do is murder yet at the end you say the difference between lawful and unlawful killing is just opinion which is the whole point. If public opinion is that A (police killing) is lawful while B (murdering) is illegal that doesn't make everyone hypocrites for considering them two different things, it just says that it's their opinion. I disagree with his opinion on opinions and think that there are no right or wrong opinions and actually agree with you, I just think his example was flawed while you gave a questionable response.

#40 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35130 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

To anyone saying opinions can't be wrong because they are by definition not based on facts; That only means opinions aren't necesarilly right. Opinions going against the established facts and evidence can very much be wrong.

Not really, most of the examples of opinions pepole are giving here aren't really opinions just false facts. "My opinion is I like the new Star Wars trilogy" thats nether wrong or right, it's just an opinion.
#41 Posted by GuruOfFunk (441 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@AtPhantom said:

To anyone saying opinions can't be wrong because they are by definition not based on facts; That only means opinions aren't necesarilly right. Opinions going against the established facts and evidence can very much be wrong.

Not really, most of the examples of opinions pepole are giving here aren't really opinions just false facts. "My opinion is I like the new Star Wars trilogy" thats nether wrong or right, it's just an opinion.

Exactly. Opinions deal with what ought to be as opposed to positive analysis which deals with what is. Saying that a yellow tennis ball is purple isn't an opinion, it just means your an idiot. Saying that a yellow tennis ball OUGHT to be purple is an opinion with which nobody can say your wrong. You can say that it shouldn't be because of whatever reason but that doesn't make my opinion wrong.

#42 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35130 posts) - - Show Bio
@GuruOfFunk said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@AtPhantom said:

To anyone saying opinions can't be wrong because they are by definition not based on facts; That only means opinions aren't necesarilly right. Opinions going against the established facts and evidence can very much be wrong.

Not really, most of the examples of opinions pepole are giving here aren't really opinions just false facts. "My opinion is I like the new Star Wars trilogy" thats nether wrong or right, it's just an opinion.

Exactly. Opinions deal with what ought to be as opposed to positive analysis which deals with what is. Saying that a yellow tennis ball is purple isn't an opinion, it just means your an idiot. Saying that a yellow tennis ball OUGHT to be purple is an opinion with which nobody can say your wrong. You can say that it shouldn't be because of whatever reason but that doesn't make my opinion wrong.

exactly 
#43 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Not really, most of the examples of opinions pepole are giving here aren't really opinions just false facts. "My opinion is I like the new Star Wars trilogy" thats nether wrong or right, it's just an opinion.

"I like something" isn't so much an opinion but a taste, and tastes indeed cannot be wrong or right.

There is, however, more than one definition of opinion, and opinion as "belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge" is very much subject to scrutiny and can objectively be wrong.

#44 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35130 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Not really, most of the examples of opinions pepole are giving here aren't really opinions just false facts. "My opinion is I like the new Star Wars trilogy" thats nether wrong or right, it's just an opinion.

"I like something" isn't so much an opinion but a taste, and tastes indeed cannot be wrong or right.

There is, however, more than one definition of opinion, and opinion as "belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge" is very much subject to scrutiny and can objectively be wrong.

give me some examples of opinions that are wrong?
#45 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

give me some examples of opinions that are wrong?

... "I think Iron Man can beat Galactus"?

#46 Posted by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

@Razero said:

An opinion can't be wrong.

It can however, be stupid.

This is the answer.

#47 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (35130 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

give me some examples of opinions that are wrong?

... "I think Iron Man can beat Galactus"?

That is not impossible, Reed Richards does it on a regular basis  
#48 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@AtPhantom said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

give me some examples of opinions that are wrong?

... "I think Iron Man can beat Galactus"?

That is not impossible, Reed Richards does it on a regular basis

Yeah, but it's a quantifiable, verifiable statement. Something to which 'right' and 'wrong' can be applied.

#49 Edited by GuruOfFunk (441 posts) - - Show Bio

If someone said "I think Iron Man can beat Galactus" you can't say that that opinion is wrong. Will Iron Man most likely lose that fight, perhaps, but you cannot say that that person is wrong for thinking that because its an OPINION. It's what they THINK will happen and as said it isn't a 100% guarantee or fact that Galactus will win because he has been defeated before, therefore it's within the realm of possibility. Is it the smartest opinion to have, no. Will Iron Man end up winning, probably not. But you CANNOT say that a person is wrong for thinking that he might.

#50 Posted by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio

It's my opinion that snails are actually birds with no wings.

That would be wrong.