If Joker really wanted to, and he wasn't playing games anymore, could he really kill Batman? or would he still fail like always.
Of course he could!
The Joker has gotten the golden opportunity to finish Batman on numerous occasions. In his own demented mentality, the Joker feels that putting a prone Batman down would be anticlimactic, and not a dramatic enough ending to their rivalry. He believes that it is his destiny to defeat Batman in a worthy manner that finally proves his random madness is superior to the Batman's calculating detective skills. He fears that without Batman as a catalyst for his actions, his life would become meaningless.
"I could never kill you. Where would the act be without my straight man?"
—The Joker, Batman #655
I see it both ways.
If Batman was still Batman, but Joker was bloodlusted and determined to kill Batman, he would and could. However, if Batman truly wanted to take care of Joker once and for all, he would and definitely could as well.
Both could probably take care of each other if it ever came down to it.
Never understood why he shouldn't break that one rule on Joker. Even if Joker would "mentally win", I never understood how Bat-Man didn't see the benefits and all the lives he'd be saving.
That's for a whole other topic though! Nice scans!
@sideburnguru: Why wait for another topic? The title seems appropriate :P
The Joker wouldn't merely "mentally win." Making Batman break his own strict philosophy would be the Joker's GREATEST TRIUMPH... okay maybe not as great as the time he jokerized half the world villains, or the time he assumed Mr. Mxyzptlk's reality-warping powers and took over the universe.. but it would be a great victory overall. This would turn the Batman we know into something entirely different, and dilute his sense of morals and justice. Basically by killing the Joker, he would also be killing himself. It's quite complicated.
I kindly disagree. I don't think it would turn Batman into anything different. If this was a strict Batman, I'm sure the law would accidently miss it. In all reality, it's quite surprising each time Batman turns him in, he isn't put to a death sentence. I think Batman would deep down know on the inside, while this does break his one rule, it would also save the lives of millions. It would bring justice to the lives Joker got rid of. I still think he could then continue to keep his one rule, making Joker that ONE exception.
@jokergeist No denying that.
I feel Batman should sit down with Vaas. "Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?". "LETTING THE SAME DAMN CLOWN LIVE, HOW MANY TIMES, AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS WHEN YOU TURN HIM IN, IS INSANITY." I can imagine the convo. Along with Batman punching Vaas right in the face, realizing he's right.
Yes, he can. And he's had plenty of opportunities to kill him. The same way Batman has had plenty of opportunities to kill Joker.
But that's the thing: Joker will never kill him. Because then he'd have no purpose, his only goal in life is to be killed by Batman, And in doing that Bruce would break his most sacred rule, and Joker will have won.