BvS: Will Superman be nerfed?

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Realistically, can they do this fight without Superman being ridiculously nerfed. Because lets be honest, Batman wouldn't stand a chance. Even Synder and Cavil laughed at the notion of the Batman being able to beat Superman. Even if Batman incorporated some of the left over krptonian tech into his armour, he would still lack the durability to take Clark's hits. I honestly cannot see him doing this without kryptonite or PIS.

How do you think they will handle the fight?

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Yes.

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There will be a fight but it won't be a clear cut winner.

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#4  Edited By SaintWildcard

Whether he's nerfed or not, this is what Cav-El has to say about the fight

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Superman is obviously going to hold back a lot

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Superman will hold back, the dialogue will make that clear.

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To be fair, Superman has been "nerfed" a bit in all his films. In the last film he was staggered briefly by a hail of bullets and knocked down by a girder. Only Superman 4, where he moved the moon had silver age type feats.

Having said that, why cant Batman do well in this fight. Lex Luthor does ok and he isn't super-powered.

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@bezza: Batman could because Supes holds back. If he wanted he could kill Batman or Lex in a second.

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Nerfed? No... Holding back? Yes.

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Couldn't Superman just end it quickly without hurting Batman to much. I mean, he could simply blitz him and then karate chop him into submission.

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I wouldn't say nerf but holding back

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nah

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bats get beefed up

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#14  Edited By kfabz-23
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A mixture of batman being OP and superman holding back. as kfabz-23 said the dialogue will make it clear

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Cavell will be amped so he can pose a threat to Batman.

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I feel like I've seen this thread before. Oh wait I have.

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No he already lacks the speed feats of Quicksilver or Flash

A missile can KO a Kryptonian

He coughed blood when breathing Krypton atmosphere

its possible he can lose

He doesn't need to be as fast as Quiksilver or Flash

It is never said that a missile would KO him

There is context behind it. It was explicitly stated in the film that he hadn't adapted to it.

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#21  Edited By Kramotz

It's inevitable. A base Superman realistically could wreck any version of Batman, but, alas, to cater to the fanboys and wankers, Superman likely won't have:

  • his super intelligence, due to him actually being tenfold more intelligent than Batman ever has been.
  • his speed blitz; they don't want the fight(s) to be too quick.
  • sun dipping, because if he does this, Batman's ass is grass.
  • Flash-tier reflexes, because Superman being able to dodge everything Batman throws at him wouldn rustle the Batman wankers.
  • Heat Vision, because being able to burn Batman's face through his mouth hole or just cut him and his little iron suit in half would DEFINITELY rustle the Batman wankers.
  • Freezing Breath, because being able to freeze Batman to cold extremes and then just fly through and shatter him to pieces would DESTROY the Batman wankers' jimmies.

This realistically shouldn't even be close (Batman vs Superman, that is), but, you know...

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He's alredy very nerfed.

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Nerfed? No, but he'll most likely be weakened or holding back.

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Yes

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#26  Edited By Kramotz

@tomofukuoka: Because he's commonly nerfed. Duh.

I thought this was common knowledge.

And no, Batman and Iron Man are not more intelligent than Superman. More knowledge (smarter) and creative? Yeah. More intelligent, though? No, not even close.

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#28  Edited By never give up

Nerfed? No... Holding back? Yes.

Hope this is the case.

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In reality.
In reality.
What i would like to see.
What i would like to see.

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#30  Edited By Superguy1591

@tomofukuoka said:

No he already lacks the speed feats of Quicksilver or Flash

A missile can KO a Kryptonian

He coughed blood when breathing Krypton atmosphere

its possible he can lose

1.) we know for a fact that he's, at least, Mach 3. He's seen breaking the sound barrier three times in one flight sequence in Man of Steel--1,000 miles per second. But, let's for the sake of argument, say that he's only as fast as sound--he's still moving at 300 miles per second. So, unless Superman is 400 miles away, he's fast enough to speed blitz Batman before Batman blinks.

2.) No it can't; Faora was KOed by her helmet cracking, not by the missile. Notice how the male Kryptonian was fine?

3.) Yeah, but imagine how lethal that must be for humans. If the atmosphere is too heavy for Superman, imagine what it would do to a human. Is Batman really going to cross that line?

Its its possible he can lose, but it'll be PiS.

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#31  Edited By stormshadow_x

@kfabz-23 said:

Superman will hold back, the dialogue will make that clear.

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  • his speed blitz; they don't want the fight(s) to be too quick.

wrong Superman rarely speed blitzes, ocassionaly he might bull rush charging into an opponent at Superman speed but he rarely blitzes

MoS Superman is many, many times SLOWER than comic book Supes

Superman wrote in-character is sometimes is also a little authoritarian, egotistic, boastful, self-applauding and he sometimes holds back, he would rather take a punch than dodge it. The guy in red underpants and redcape fight sometimes too arrogantly when he faces lesser men. Bullets might bounce off him but Batman's red sunlight or kryptonite gun would hurt him, Bat will probably have Arrow (gizmos) or Wonder Woman (magic) backing him up

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his super intelligence, due to him actually being tenfold more intelligent than Batman ever has been.

wrong, supe is not that intelligent, he is from a scifi planet but look at his life, he grew up and a farm and studied milking cows, he studies tabloid journalism in some local hick newspaper and he studied planting corn crops in a field

People like Batman or Ironman are better strategists, smarter, more creative than Superman

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  • Flash-tier reflexes, because Superman being able to dodge everything Batman throws at him wouldn rustle the Batman wankers.

wrong he doesn't have Flash level reflexes, people like Wonder Woman are faster than him

.Diana is faster

That First Scan seems kind of weird. He's shown too be faster than that naturally right?

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#33  Edited By Kramotz

In reality
In reality

l0l This is exactly how the movie would go in a realistic continuity without fanservice. xD

Best post of the day.

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I'm willing to bet Superman's going to be under some kind of chemical influence from Luthor that throws him off. Kind of like the Superman/Batman fight in Hush when he was under Ivy's influence

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I'm willing to bet Superman's going to be under some kind of chemical influence from Luthor that throws him off. Kind of like the Superman/Batman fight in Hush when he was under Ivy's influence

By looking at the trailer I think the same.

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@kramotz said:
@deathpoolthet1000 said:
In reality
In reality

l0l This is exactly how the movie would go in a realistic continuity without fanservice. xD

Best post of the day.

but he does bleed from one punch too may I add

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Him holding back + Bruce's prep will make it seem like he's nerfed, but I think we'll see him really cut loose against whom ever they're fighting with together at the end.

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@houseshm said:

@kramotz said:
@deathpoolthet1000 said:
In reality
In reality

l0l This is exactly how the movie would go in a realistic continuity without fanservice. xD

Best post of the day.

but he does bleed from one punch too may I add

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PIS Batman would break his hand before making Superman bleed.

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@houseshm said:

@kramotz said:
@deathpoolthet1000 said:
In reality
In reality

l0l This is exactly how the movie would go in a realistic continuity without fanservice. xD

Best post of the day.

but he does bleed from one punch too may I add

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Anyone find it very hypocritical that Batman of all people calls Superman a control freak?

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@houseshm said:

@kramotz said:
@deathpoolthet1000 said:
In reality
In reality

l0l This is exactly how the movie would go in a realistic continuity without fanservice. xD

Best post of the day.

but he does bleed from one punch too may I add

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PIS Batman would break his hand before making Superman bleed.

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Is that frank miller batman

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@stormshadow_x: Frank Miller creates these Batman fanboys.

I hate how Superman is portrayed in TDKR.

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@houseshm: You're a hypocrite. Talking about me cropping scans while you did it above.

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@kfabz-23 said:

Superman will hold back, the dialogue will make that clear.

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#49  Edited By those_eyes

they will have to nerf batman to make it a fair fight.

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  • his speed blitz; they don't want the fight(s) to be too quick.

wrong Superman rarely speed blitzes, ocassionaly he might bull rush charging into an opponent at Superman speed but he rarely blitzes

MoS Superman is many, many times SLOWER than comic book Supes

Superman wrote in-character is sometimes is also a little authoritarian, egotistic, boastful, self-applauding and he sometimes holds back, he would rather take a punch than dodge it. The guy in red underpants and redcape fight sometimes too arrogantly when he faces lesser men. Bullets might bounce off him but Batman's red sunlight or kryptonite gun would hurt him, Bat will probably have Arrow (gizmos) or Wonder Woman (magic) backing him up

@kramotz said:

his super intelligence, due to him actually being tenfold more intelligent than Batman ever has been.

wrong, supe is not that intelligent, he is from a scifi planet but look at his life, he grew up and a farm and studied milking cows, he studies tabloid journalism in some local hick newspaper and he studied planting corn crops in a field

People like Batman or Ironman are better strategists, smarter, more creative than Superman

@kramotz said:
  • Flash-tier reflexes, because Superman being able to dodge everything Batman throws at him wouldn rustle the Batman wankers.

wrong he doesn't have Flash level reflexes, people like Wonder Woman are faster than him

.Diana is faster

Superman blitzes plenty, more than most characters.

Obviously Comic Superman is faster.Using Post-Crisis, Superman is one of the fastest beings on DC Earth

Superman not intelligent?What the hell have you've been reading to suggest this when Superman is massively intelligent?

Batman is the better tactician but more intelligent? Not at all

Diana has no speed feat to suggest she is faster than Superman.Superman is a bonafide speedster.