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#1 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio

If you were building a team with in the comic world..something like what Nick Fury did in Secret Invasion..what characters would you want to have on your team..for this you can only choose one character who has one of these characteristics...Energy Manipulation,Attractive Female,Master Tactician,Techno-Organism\Cyborg\Robot,Super Senses,Extremely Wealthy,Registered Hero..I will go first.

Energy Manipulation-Ms.Marvel
Attractive Female-Gamora
Master Tactician-Nick Fury
Cyborg-Misty Knight
Super Senses-Daredevil
Extremely Wealthy-Black Panther
Registered Hero-Justice

#2 Posted by John Valentine (16311 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Master Tactition: Cyclops.
  • Wealth: Iron Fist.
  • Super Senses: X-23.
  • Energy Manipulation: Havok.
  • Cyborg: Polaris.
  • Random: Darwin.
  • Attractive Female: Monet.
#3 Posted by TheDrifter (26556 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation- Gambit
Attractive Female- Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Nick Fury
Cyborg-  Doctor Doom? Does he count?
Super Senses- Wolverine
Extremely Wealthy- Black Panther
Registered Hero- Moon Knight
#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
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Energy Manipulation- Gambit
Attractive Female- Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Nick Fury
Cyborg-  Doctor Doom? Does he count?
Super Senses- Wolverine
Extremely Wealthy- Black Panther
Registered Hero- Moon Knight
"
Doom isn't a Cyborg....the tech has to be a part of you for you to be a Cyborg.
#5 Posted by TheDrifter (26556 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
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Energy Manipulation- Gambit
Attractive Female- Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Nick Fury
Cyborg-  Doctor Doom? Does he count?
Super Senses- Wolverine
Extremely Wealthy- Black Panther
Registered Hero- Moon Knight
"
Doom isn't a Cyborg....the tech has to be a part of you for you to be a Cyborg."
Damn, Then I have no idea
#6 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
Super Team

Energy Manipulation
- Blue Superman
Attractive Female- Supergirl
Master Tactician- Kal Kent
Cyborg- Hank Henshaw
Super Senses- The Prime Superman
Extremely Wealthy- Speeding Bullets Batman
Registered Hero- Superman

Slave/Bitch - Goku
#7 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
"Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
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Energy Manipulation- Gambit
Attractive Female- Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Nick Fury
Cyborg-  Doctor Doom? Does he count?
Super Senses- Wolverine
Extremely Wealthy- Black Panther
Registered Hero- Moon Knight
"
Doom isn't a Cyborg....the tech has to be a part of you for you to be a Cyborg."
Damn, Then I have no idea"
Marvel and DC have plenty Cyborgs\Robots\Techno-Organisms.
#8 Posted by Class Clown (311 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation- Radioactive Man
Attractive Female- Madelyne Pryor
Master Tactician- Task Master
Cyborg- Fury
Super Senses- Sabretooth
Extremely Wealthy- Dr. Doom
Registered Hero- Ms Marvel
#9 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation-Ms.Marvel
Attractive Female-She-hulk
Master Tactician-Steve Rogers
Cyborg-Deathlok
Super Senses-Spiderman
Extremely Wealthy-Angel
Registered Hero- Wonderman
#10 Edited by Lunacyde (19431 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation- Green Lantern
Attractive Female- Scarlett
Master Tactician- Captain America
Cyborg-The Fury
Super Senses-Black Panther
Extremely Wealthy- Batman
Registered Hero- Reed Richards

Is that a good team or what?!
#11 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

i thought mine was good..

#12 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

Energy Manipulation- Nico Minoru
Attractive Female- Pixie
Master Tactician- Amadeus Cho
Robot- Vision
Super Senses- Daken
Extremely Wealthy- Hawkeye(Kate Bishop)
Registered Hero- Noh-Varr
#13 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
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Energy Manipulation- Nico Minoru
Attractive Female- Pixie
Master Tactician- Amadeus Cho
Robot- Vision
Super Senses- Daken
Extremely Wealthy- Hawkeye(Kate Bishop)
Registered Hero- Noh-Varr"
Nice team..I would have put Amadeus on but pretty good.
#14 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Nobody said:
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Energy Manipulation- Nico Minoru
Attractive Female- Pixie
Master Tactician- Amadeus Cho
Robot- Vision
Super Senses- Daken
Extremely Wealthy- Hawkeye(Kate Bishop)
Registered Hero- Noh-Varr"
Nice team..I would have put Amadeus on but pretty good."
Thanks, but I do have Amadeus on it.
#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Nobody said:
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Energy Manipulation- Nico Minoru
Attractive Female- Pixie
Master Tactician- Amadeus Cho
Robot- Vision
Super Senses- Daken
Extremely Wealthy- Hawkeye(Kate Bishop)
Registered Hero- Noh-Varr"
Nice team..I would have put Amadeus on but pretty good."
Thanks, but I do have Amadeus on it."
I meant to say I wouldn't have..lol.
#16 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

OH! I couldn't think of a better "teen" to be tactical. Maybe Patriot, but I don't think he is experienced enough.

#17 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation-Sentry
Attractive Female-SheHulk
Master Tactician-Captain America
Cyborg-Cable
Super Senses-Puma
Extremely Wealthy-Iron Man
Registered Hero-Wasp
#18 Posted by Kid Anarchy (1033 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation- Silver Surfer
Attractive Female- Psylocke
Master Tactician- Nick Fury
Cyborg- Deathlok
Super Senses- Warpath
Extremely Wealthy- Archangel
Registered Hero- Moon Knight
#19 Edited by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"If you were building a team with in the comic world..something like what Nick Fury did in Secret Invasion..what characters would you want to have on your team..for this you can only choose one character who has one of these characteristics...Energy Manipulation,Attractive Female,Master Tactician,Techno-Organism\Cyborg\Robot,Super Senses,Extremely Wealthy,Registered Hero..I will go first.
Energy Manipulation-Ms.Marvel
Attractive Female-Gamora
Master Tactician-Nick Fury
Cyborg-Misty Knight
Super Senses-Daredevil
Extremely Wealthy-Black Panther
Registered Hero-Justice

"
THANK GOD! You just made this much easier for me.
Energy Manipulation-Silver Surfer
Attractive Female-BLACK CAT!
Master Tactician-Deathstroke The Terminator
Cyborg-Lightning Lad (He had a robot arm with a grenade launcher in the Legion Of Superheroes cartoon)
Super Senses-Spider-Man
Extremely Wealthy-Iron Man
Registered Hero-She-Hulk

EDIT: I change my Cyborg to Cable. Cable's the man!!!
#20 Posted by Rune (302 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation- Vulcan
Attractive Female- Scarlet Witch
Master Tactician- Loki
Cyborg-  Cable
Super Senses- Alucard
Extremely Wealthy- Elijah Snow
Registered Hero- Radioactive Man
#21 Posted by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
#22 Edited by King Hyperion (3714 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation - Captain Universe (Gabriel Vargas! I don't care if he's dead, The Enigma Force has the capability to retcon him back into existence!)
Attractive Female - Songbird
Master Tactician - The Taskmaster
Cyborg - Constrictor
Super Senses - X-23
Extremely Wealthy - Iron Fist
Registered Hero - She-Hulk
#23 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation-Photon
Attractive Female-Elsa Bloodstone
Master Tactician-Pepper Potts
Cyborg-Machine Man
Super Senses-Black Panther
Extremely Wealthy- Moon Knight
Registered Hero-Ultra Girl
#24 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
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Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
"
1.Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy
2.Master Chief isn't a Cyborg
3.Dr.Strange doesn't have super senses
4.Kyle Rayner isn't registered.The Registration act is a Marvel predicament.
#25 Posted by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
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Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
"
1.Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy
2.Master Chief isn't a Cyborg
3.Dr.Strange doesn't have super senses
4.Kyle Rayner isn't registered.The Registration act is a Marvel predicament.
"
1. Vegeta does manipulate energy. It's his own.
#26 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
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Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
"
1.Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy
2.Master Chief isn't a Cyborg
3.Dr.Strange doesn't have super senses
4.Kyle Rayner isn't registered.The Registration act is a Marvel predicament.
"
1. Vegeta does manipulate energy. It's his own."
He has energy attacks...but he doesn't manipulate it.
#27 Posted by TheDrifter (26556 posts) - - Show Bio
Energy Manipulation- Gambit
Attractive Female-  Black Widow
Master Tactician- Batman
Cyborg-  Master Chief
Super Senses- Superman
Extremely Wealthy- Norman Osborn
Registered Hero- Moon Knight
#28 Posted by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
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Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
"
1.Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy
2.Master Chief isn't a Cyborg
3.Dr.Strange doesn't have super senses
4.Kyle Rayner isn't registered.The Registration act is a Marvel predicament.
"
1. Vegeta does manipulate energy. It's his own."
He has energy attacks...but he doesn't manipulate it."

I've been hoping you would say this and been waiting to say this okay:

Vegeta can control his energy's size speed and direction. If that's not Energy Manipulation, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS! BOOYAH!! I win.
#29 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
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Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
"
1.Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy
2.Master Chief isn't a Cyborg
3.Dr.Strange doesn't have super senses
4.Kyle Rayner isn't registered.The Registration act is a Marvel predicament.
"
1. Vegeta does manipulate energy. It's his own."
He has energy attacks...but he doesn't manipulate it."

I've been hoping you would say this and been waiting to say this okay:

Vegeta can control his energy's size speed and direction. If that's not Energy Manipulation, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS! BOOYAH!! I win."
You lost.You have no idea what energy manipulation is.
#30 Posted by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
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Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
"
1.Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy
2.Master Chief isn't a Cyborg
3.Dr.Strange doesn't have super senses
4.Kyle Rayner isn't registered.The Registration act is a Marvel predicament.
"
1. Vegeta does manipulate energy. It's his own."
He has energy attacks...but he doesn't manipulate it."

I've been hoping you would say this and been waiting to say this okay:

Vegeta can control his energy's size speed and direction. If that's not Energy Manipulation, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS! BOOYAH!! I win."
You lost.You have no idea what energy manipulation is."
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead
#31 Posted by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"
Energy Manipulation-Vegeta
Attractive Female-Emma Frost
Master Tactician- Thanos
Cyborg- Master Chief
Super Senses- Dr Strange
Extremely Wealthy- Iron Man
Registered Hero- Kyle Rainer
"
1.Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy
2.Master Chief isn't a Cyborg
3.Dr.Strange doesn't have super senses
4.Kyle Rayner isn't registered.The Registration act is a Marvel predicament.
"
1. Vegeta does manipulate energy. It's his own."
He has energy attacks...but he doesn't manipulate it."

I've been hoping you would say this and been waiting to say this okay:

Vegeta can control his energy's size speed and direction. If that's not Energy Manipulation, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS! BOOYAH!! I win."
You lost.You have no idea what energy manipulation is."
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
And Psi Optics wins too. Now just go over to Swagga and say 'BOOYAH!' in his face. Come on, you can do it.
#32 Posted by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio

And yes Master Chief is part cybog if you read the books. He has a cyborg implanted nuero needle in his brian to interact more fully with cortana. This port in the back of his head is always there. Hes not a heavy duty cyborg like your stereo typical image that many people have in their heads but by definition he fits it. Plus the grunts always call him a cyborg when they dont refer to him as Demon

A cyborg is a

#33 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
"And yes Master Chief is part cybog if you read the books. He has a cyborg implanted nuero needle in his brian to interact more fully with cortana. This port in the back of his head is always there. Hes not a heavy duty cyborg like your stereo typical image that many people have in their heads but by definition he fits it. Plus the grunts always call him a cyborg when they dont refer to him as Demon

A cyborg is a cybernetic organism (i.e., an organism that has both artificial and natural systems)."
In order for him to be a cyborg he would need cybernetic parts..a neural implant doesn't make him a cyborg.The only way it would is if he needed it to function in general.
#34 Posted by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"And yes Master Chief is part cybog if you read the books. He has a cyborg implanted nuero needle in his brian to interact more fully with cortana. This port in the back of his head is always there. Hes not a heavy duty cyborg like your stereo typical image that many people have in their heads but by definition he fits it. Plus the grunts always call him a cyborg when they dont refer to him as Demon

A cyborg is a cybernetic organism (i.e., an organism that has both artificial and natural systems)."
In order for him to be a cyborg he would need cybernetic parts..a neural implant doesn't make him a cyborg.The only way it would is if he needed it to function in general."

maybe not a true cyborg then so I loose 80 percent of that particular part of the argument

but I will let it slide on that technicality by definition so i can include the chief in my list becuase the other cyborgs are lame to me compared to the chief
#35 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
#36 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"And yes Master Chief is part cybog if you read the books. He has a cyborg implanted nuero needle in his brian to interact more fully with cortana. This port in the back of his head is always there. Hes not a heavy duty cyborg like your stereo typical image that many people have in their heads but by definition he fits it. Plus the grunts always call him a cyborg when they dont refer to him as Demon

A cyborg is a cybernetic organism (i.e., an organism that has both artificial and natural systems)."
In order for him to be a cyborg he would need cybernetic parts..a neural implant doesn't make him a cyborg.The only way it would is if he needed it to function in general."

maybe not a true cyborg then so I loose 80 percent of that particular part of the argument

but I will let it slide on that technicality by definition so i can include the chief in my list becuase the other cyborgs are lame to me compared to the chief"
Master Chief is nowhere near able to be classified a Cyborg.Like Iron Man would be borderline..Master Chief isn't even in the ballpark.
#37 Posted by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
Vegeta can absorb energy. That's how characters can regain their energy and DBZ. And like I said before, Vegeta can control his energy, such as controlling the direcion of orbs of energy, which is energy manipulation.
#38 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
Vegeta can absorb energy. That's how characters can regain their energy and DBZ. And like I said before, Vegeta can control his energy, such as controlling the direcion of orbs of energy, which is energy manipulation."
No he can't.Vegeta doesn't control energy...he can control is chi..like Iron Fist.That in no way makes him an energy manipulator.
#39 Posted by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
and forgot to say someone put superman before me

Cyclops barely can manipulate and technically he cant manipulate without the help of his visor if not it wildly shoots out of his eyes

ok let me try to help you understand my side of the argument. Vegeta can manipulate his energy to create a force field so technically he can manipulate in the same classification as Sue Storm although he is not as adept as making forcfields as complicated a Sue can

he can shoot his most powerful attacks at people and control the explosion not to destroy the planet but the beam is more powerful then a low level characters beam with the intent on destroying a planet.

He can also direct his beam to change direction. As i said he can dissipate other enemies attacks. To dissipate it he would need to be able to have the ability of nullification. He would do this by manipulating the level of energy in the attack

If you cannot manipulate energy but still had energy one of 2 things would happen. You would shoot it uncontrollable like Cyclops without eye protection or if you would release such energy it would automatically detonate or discharge unstabley
#40 Posted by gunswordfist (2669 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
Vegeta can absorb energy. That's how characters can regain their energy and DBZ. And like I said before, Vegeta can control his energy, such as controlling the direcion of orbs of energy, which is energy manipulation."
No he can't.Vegeta doesn't control energy...he can control is chi..like Iron Fist.That in no way makes him an energy manipulator."

Oh boy. Vegeta controls energy. You can hear them call it energy countless times in DBZ. Vegeta can control and absorb energy which makes him an Energy Manipulator. It's that simple. Please don't make me have to pull out a link.
#41 Edited by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
Vegeta can absorb energy. That's how characters can regain their energy and DBZ. And like I said before, Vegeta can control his energy, such as controlling the direcion of orbs of energy, which is energy manipulation."
No he can't.Vegeta doesn't control energy...he can control is chi..like Iron Fist.That in no way makes him an energy manipulator."

Oh boy. Vegeta controls energy. You can hear them call it energy countless times in DBZ. Vegeta can control and absorb energy which makes him an Energy Manipulator. It's that simple. Please don't make me have to pull out a link."
You can pull out any link you want.I watched DBZ.Everything Vegeta does including energy attacks are chi based.He doesn't manipulate energy.
#42 Edited by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio

Swagga Vance said:

"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
Vegeta can absorb energy. That's how characters can regain their energy and DBZ. And like I said before, Vegeta can control his energy, such as controlling the direcion of orbs of energy, which is energy manipulation."
No he can't.Vegeta doesn't control energy...he can control is chi..like Iron Fist.That in no way makes him an energy manipulator."


Chi by definition is energy lets go over japanese terms

Ki aka Chi- Inner Energy
Chakra- Same as Chi but has a little more complex features
Reiatsu- Spiritual Energy aka spiritual pressure

#43 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
and forgot to say someone put superman before me

Cyclops barely can manipulate and technically he cant manipulate without the help of his visor if not it wildly shoots out of his eyes

ok let me try to help you understand my side of the argument. Vegeta can manipulate his energy to create a force field so technically he can manipulate in the same classification as Sue Storm although he is not as adept as making forcfields as complicated a Sue can

he can shoot his most powerful attacks at people and control the explosion not to destroy the planet but the beam is more powerful then a low level characters beam with the intent on destroying a planet.

He can also direct his beam to change direction. As i said he can dissipate other enemies attacks. To dissipate it he would need to be able to have the ability of nullification. He would do this by manipulating the level of energy in the attack

If you cannot manipulate energy but still had energy one of 2 things would happen. You would shoot it uncontrollable like Cyclops without eye protection or if you would release such energy it would automatically detonate or discharge unstabley
"
Ok...that doesn't make you or them right.
Cyclops doesn't manipulate energy..he uses it.That is the point I was making.Also...Cyclops' visor doesn't manipulate energy..it contains it.He controls how the energy is expelled.It's still not manipulation though.It's his own energy.

Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy.Even his energy attacks are chi based.Manipulating Chi has nothing to do with energy...or Iron Fist would be an energy manipulator.

None of what you're saying means he is an energy manipulator.It doesn't matter how powerful his attacks are.

Controlling your own energy is not energy manipulation.

Please google Energy manipulation.This is making mad.
#44 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
"

Swagga Vance said:

"gunswordfist said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
Vegeta can absorb energy. That's how characters can regain their energy and DBZ. And like I said before, Vegeta can control his energy, such as controlling the direcion of orbs of energy, which is energy manipulation."
No he can't.Vegeta doesn't control energy...he can control is chi..like Iron Fist.That in no way makes him an energy manipulator."


Chi by definition is energy lets go over japanese terms

Ki aka Chi- Inner Energy
Chakra- Same as Chi but has a little more complex features
Reiatsu- Spiritual Energy aka spiritual pressure

"
Doesn't make you an energy manipulator if you can manipulate chi.Please look up energy manipulation.You have no idea what you are talking about.
Can you run your TV off of chi? No! Can you run it off of Electricity? Yes.Electricity is physical energy....Chi is not.
#45 Edited by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio

you know Swagga Vance said:

"Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
and forgot to say someone put superman before me

Cyclops barely can manipulate and technically he cant manipulate without the help of his visor if not it wildly shoots out of his eyes

ok let me try to help you understand my side of the argument. Vegeta can manipulate his energy to create a force field so technically he can manipulate in the same classification as Sue Storm although he is not as adept as making forcfields as complicated a Sue can

he can shoot his most powerful attacks at people and control the explosion not to destroy the planet but the beam is more powerful then a low level characters beam with the intent on destroying a planet.

He can also direct his beam to change direction. As i said he can dissipate other enemies attacks. To dissipate it he would need to be able to have the ability of nullification. He would do this by manipulating the level of energy in the attack

If you cannot manipulate energy but still had energy one of 2 things would happen. You would shoot it uncontrollable like Cyclops without eye protection or if you would release such energy it would automatically detonate or discharge unstabley
"
Ok...that doesn't make you or them right.
Cyclops doesn't manipulate energy..he uses it.That is the point I was making.Also...Cyclops' visor doesn't manipulate energy..it contains it.He controls how the energy is expelled.It's still not manipulation though.It's his own energy.

Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy.Even his energy attacks are chi based.Manipulating Chi has nothing to do with energy...or Iron Fist would be an energy manipulator.

None of what you're saying means he is an energy manipulator.It doesn't matter how powerful his attacks are.

Controlling your own energy is not energy manipulation.

Please google Energy manipulation.This is making mad.
"

I humored you and googled and looked for exact definition. And as I already knew it doesnt have a whole term definition so you have to look up energy and you have to look up manipulation.

Do me a favor why dont you google Chi because it is making me mad that you keep calling it not energy
#46 Posted by lordraiden (7410 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"If you were building a team with in the comic world..something like what Nick Fury did in Secret Invasion..what characters would you want to have on your team..for this you can only choose one character who has one of these characteristics...Energy Manipulation,Attractive Female,Master Tactician,Techno-Organism\Cyborg\Robot,Super Senses,Extremely Wealthy,Registered Hero..I will go first.
Energy Manipulation-Ms.Marvel
Attractive Female-Gamora
Master Tactician-Nick Fury
Cyborg-Misty Knight
Super Senses-Daredevil
Extremely Wealthy-Black Panther
Registered Hero-Justice

"

Energy Maniputater - Firestorm
Atrractive Female - WonderWoman
Master Tactician - Thanos
Cyborg - General Grieves
Super Senses - Superman
Extremely Wealthy - Iron Man
Regesterd Hero - Spiderman

Team Name: The Regulators

Famouse Battle cry: "Regulaters, let's get sum"

Famous Last Words: "It's over, the Fat Lady has sung for you"
#47 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
"you know Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
and forgot to say someone put superman before me

Cyclops barely can manipulate and technically he cant manipulate without the help of his visor if not it wildly shoots out of his eyes

ok let me try to help you understand my side of the argument. Vegeta can manipulate his energy to create a force field so technically he can manipulate in the same classification as Sue Storm although he is not as adept as making forcfields as complicated a Sue can

he can shoot his most powerful attacks at people and control the explosion not to destroy the planet but the beam is more powerful then a low level characters beam with the intent on destroying a planet.

He can also direct his beam to change direction. As i said he can dissipate other enemies attacks. To dissipate it he would need to be able to have the ability of nullification. He would do this by manipulating the level of energy in the attack

If you cannot manipulate energy but still had energy one of 2 things would happen. You would shoot it uncontrollable like Cyclops without eye protection or if you would release such energy it would automatically detonate or discharge unstabley
"
Ok...that doesn't make you or them right.
Cyclops doesn't manipulate energy..he uses it.That is the point I was making.Also...Cyclops' visor doesn't manipulate energy..it contains it.He controls how the energy is expelled.It's still not manipulation though.It's his own energy.

Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy.Even his energy attacks are chi based.Manipulating Chi has nothing to do with energy...or Iron Fist would be an energy manipulator.

None of what you're saying means he is an energy manipulator.It doesn't matter how powerful his attacks are.

Controlling your own energy is not energy manipulation.

Please google Energy manipulation.This is making mad.
"

I humored you and googled and looked for exact definition. And as I already knew it doesnt have a whole term definition so you have to look up energy and you have to look up manipulation.

Do me a favor why dont you google Chi because it is making me mad that you keep calling it not energy"
Chi is not a physical energy.If it was Vulcan could manipulate it..he can manipulate every known energy but not chi...which would mean Chi is not energy.
#48 Posted by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"you know Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
and forgot to say someone put superman before me

Cyclops barely can manipulate and technically he cant manipulate without the help of his visor if not it wildly shoots out of his eyes

ok let me try to help you understand my side of the argument. Vegeta can manipulate his energy to create a force field so technically he can manipulate in the same classification as Sue Storm although he is not as adept as making forcfields as complicated a Sue can

he can shoot his most powerful attacks at people and control the explosion not to destroy the planet but the beam is more powerful then a low level characters beam with the intent on destroying a planet.

He can also direct his beam to change direction. As i said he can dissipate other enemies attacks. To dissipate it he would need to be able to have the ability of nullification. He would do this by manipulating the level of energy in the attack

If you cannot manipulate energy but still had energy one of 2 things would happen. You would shoot it uncontrollable like Cyclops without eye protection or if you would release such energy it would automatically detonate or discharge unstabley
"
Ok...that doesn't make you or them right.
Cyclops doesn't manipulate energy..he uses it.That is the point I was making.Also...Cyclops' visor doesn't manipulate energy..it contains it.He controls how the energy is expelled.It's still not manipulation though.It's his own energy.

Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy.Even his energy attacks are chi based.Manipulating Chi has nothing to do with energy...or Iron Fist would be an energy manipulator.

None of what you're saying means he is an energy manipulator.It doesn't matter how powerful his attacks are.

Controlling your own energy is not energy manipulation.

Please google Energy manipulation.This is making mad.
"

I humored you and googled and looked for exact definition. And as I already knew it doesnt have a whole term definition so you have to look up energy and you have to look up manipulation.

Do me a favor why dont you google Chi because it is making me mad that you keep calling it not energy"
Chi is not a physical energy.If it was Vulcan could manipulate it..he can manipulate every known energy but not chi...which would mean Chi is not energy."
Its energy its defined as energy you cant say oatmeal cookies arent cookies becuase you dont like them or because they are different from the ones your used to like chocolate chips

and I dont know too much about Vulcan but. He is not the defining factor in the term energy manipulation or the definition of Chi

both those definitions superceed a comic book character
#49 Posted by Swagga Vance (108 posts) - - Show Bio
Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"you know Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
and forgot to say someone put superman before me

Cyclops barely can manipulate and technically he cant manipulate without the help of his visor if not it wildly shoots out of his eyes

ok let me try to help you understand my side of the argument. Vegeta can manipulate his energy to create a force field so technically he can manipulate in the same classification as Sue Storm although he is not as adept as making forcfields as complicated a Sue can

he can shoot his most powerful attacks at people and control the explosion not to destroy the planet but the beam is more powerful then a low level characters beam with the intent on destroying a planet.

He can also direct his beam to change direction. As i said he can dissipate other enemies attacks. To dissipate it he would need to be able to have the ability of nullification. He would do this by manipulating the level of energy in the attack

If you cannot manipulate energy but still had energy one of 2 things would happen. You would shoot it uncontrollable like Cyclops without eye protection or if you would release such energy it would automatically detonate or discharge unstabley
"
Ok...that doesn't make you or them right.
Cyclops doesn't manipulate energy..he uses it.That is the point I was making.Also...Cyclops' visor doesn't manipulate energy..it contains it.He controls how the energy is expelled.It's still not manipulation though.It's his own energy.

Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy.Even his energy attacks are chi based.Manipulating Chi has nothing to do with energy...or Iron Fist would be an energy manipulator.

None of what you're saying means he is an energy manipulator.It doesn't matter how powerful his attacks are.

Controlling your own energy is not energy manipulation.

Please google Energy manipulation.This is making mad.
"

I humored you and googled and looked for exact definition. And as I already knew it doesnt have a whole term definition so you have to look up energy and you have to look up manipulation.

Do me a favor why dont you google Chi because it is making me mad that you keep calling it not energy"
Chi is not a physical energy.If it was Vulcan could manipulate it..he can manipulate every known energy but not chi...which would mean Chi is not energy."
Its energy its defined as energy you cant say oatmeal cookies arent cookies becuase you dont like them or because they are different from the ones your used to like chocolate chips

and I dont know too much about Vulcan but. He is not the defining factor in the term energy manipulation or the definition of Chi

both those definitions superceed a comic book character"
Your comparison is ridiculous.Oatmeal cookies have the same characteristics as any other cookies making it just as much a cookie as chocolate chip.
Energy manipulation...the comic book definition has nothing to do with chi.Again...If you look up the list of who in Marvel is an energy manipulator...Iron Fist is not on the list and he is the posterboy for chi manipulation in Marvel.

Just admit it..you were wrong.
#50 Posted by Psi Optics (23 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"you know Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
"Swagga Vance said:
"Psi Optics said:
Then you define energy manipulation. Because his powers seem to fit what most people give its definition. He doesnt shoot lightning attacks or fireballs he makes Energy Balls, Beams. Shields and even can dissipate another opponents energy attack. He literally is using energy and manipulating it to his will. If he couldnt manipulate it. It would blow up the second he tried to use it so he knows how to control it

I only put Kyle becuase I saw that someone put Wonder Woman. And saw through that technicality I could put Kyle. But hey jump on me instead"
Vegeta is as much an energy manipulator as...Cyclops.Meaning he's not.They both have energy based attacks but it's not a manipulation of energy.Ms.Marvel,Havok,Captain Marvel etc are energy manipulators because they can absorb and use all different types of energy.
Nobody put Wonder Woman as registered..they put Wonder Man.
"
and forgot to say someone put superman before me

Cyclops barely can manipulate and technically he cant manipulate without the help of his visor if not it wildly shoots out of his eyes

ok let me try to help you understand my side of the argument. Vegeta can manipulate his energy to create a force field so technically he can manipulate in the same classification as Sue Storm although he is not as adept as making forcfields as complicated a Sue can

he can shoot his most powerful attacks at people and control the explosion not to destroy the planet but the beam is more powerful then a low level characters beam with the intent on destroying a planet.

He can also direct his beam to change direction. As i said he can dissipate other enemies attacks. To dissipate it he would need to be able to have the ability of nullification. He would do this by manipulating the level of energy in the attack

If you cannot manipulate energy but still had energy one of 2 things would happen. You would shoot it uncontrollable like Cyclops without eye protection or if you would release such energy it would automatically detonate or discharge unstabley
"
Ok...that doesn't make you or them right.
Cyclops doesn't manipulate energy..he uses it.That is the point I was making.Also...Cyclops' visor doesn't manipulate energy..it contains it.He controls how the energy is expelled.It's still not manipulation though.It's his own energy.

Vegeta doesn't manipulate energy.Even his energy attacks are chi based.Manipulating Chi has nothing to do with energy...or Iron Fist would be an energy manipulator.

None of what you're saying means he is an energy manipulator.It doesn't matter how powerful his attacks are.

Controlling your own energy is not energy manipulation.

Please google Energy manipulation.This is making mad.
"

I humored you and googled and looked for exact definition. And as I already knew it doesnt have a whole term definition so you have to look up energy and you have to look up manipulation.

Do me a favor why dont you google Chi because it is making me mad that you keep calling it not energy"
Chi is not a physical energy.If it was Vulcan could manipulate it..he can manipulate every known energy but not chi...which would mean Chi is not energy."
Its energy its defined as energy you cant say oatmeal cookies arent cookies becuase you dont like them or because they are different from the ones your used to like chocolate chips

and I dont know too much about Vulcan but. He is not the defining factor in the term energy manipulation or the definition of Chi

both those definitions superceed a comic book character"
Your comparison is ridiculous.Oatmeal cookies have the same characteristics as any other cookies making it just as much a cookie as chocolate chip.
Energy manipulation...the comic book definition has nothing to do with chi.Again...If you look up the list of who in Marvel is an energy manipulator...Iron Fist is not on the list and he is the posterboy for chi manipulation in Marvel.

Just admit it..you were wrong.
"


Ok obviously you have models and stereo types and a Marvel definition keeping you way to close minded

I will make it even more simple

Marvel Energy manipulator list chi not being included < Real life definitons of energy

That is just Marvel btw. DBZ doesnt follow marvel rules

by logical reasoning I am not wrong that Chi is Energy becasuse it is a fact

My analysis on the bases that Chi is energy although it is called Ki in DBZ that Vegeta uses Energy Manipulation is also correct


The funny thing is Chi just a word for inner energy. You are just saying its different because chi is a chineese word but it still mean inner energy. So in contradiction to yourself all the energy manipulators you listed would not be energy maniuplators because they have the ability to do so from with in