Better Villains: Spiderman or Batman?

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#101  Edited By entropy_aegis

@entropy_aegis said:

Penguin carries an umbrella which over the years has shown to contain different types of goodies.In a straight up fight he'd own Kingpin.But again that's not exactly a fair way of judging either character.

Wait, WHAT?!?! Penguin is no match for the Kingpin.

In a fist fight? absolutely but thats where the handy umbrella comes in.

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#102  Edited By fodigg

hmm. tough. bats?

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I'd have to say Spider-Man villains since I grew up loving Spidey. But I won't deny Batman's villains are quite interesting as well.

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Batman.

Ask anyone off the street how many Batman villains they can name, and how many Spider-Man villains they can name. I'm sure that almost all would have more answers for Batman's rogues. While this doesn't necessarily mean that Batman's rogues are "better", so to speak, it does say that they are marketed better and are more popular due to Batman's popularity - which does have an element of being better.

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Doesn't anyone agree that black mask is like a mixture of JJ kingpin and redskull

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Spidey has simplistic villains in his stories since the focus is about his own life and finding a way to overcome struggles as spider-man and peter parker leaving his villains as plot devices to glorify him. Batman's villains are actually a part of the story of Batman and serve as a family of sorts since they are steeped in Gotham's darkness with Batman as the clean up guy trying to overcome it making his foes complex and just as important to Batman's world as Gotham and himself is.

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I think Bat's villains have more stories that develop and feature them. Because of that, they feel like the better characters, to me at least. Granted, I have read a lot more Batman than Spiderman (Unless Ultimate Spiderman counts)

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Batman.

Ask anyone off the street how many Batman villains they can name, and how many Spider-Man villains they can name. I'm sure that almost all would have more answers for Batman's rogues. While this doesn't necessarily mean that Batman's rogues are "better", so to speak, it does say that they are marketed better and are more popular due to Batman's popularity - which does have an element of being better.

99.9% of people off the street are only going to be able to name the Joker.

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Batsy. Spidey is next to Bats when it comes to villains, imo. X-Men villains are great as well.

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@sinestro_gl said:

Batman.

Ask anyone off the street how many Batman villains they can name, and how many Spider-Man villains they can name. I'm sure that almost all would have more answers for Batman's rogues. While this doesn't necessarily mean that Batman's rogues are "better", so to speak, it does say that they are marketed better and are more popular due to Batman's popularity - which does have an element of being better.

99.9% of people off the street are only going to be able to name the Joker.

I think most people could probably name Riddler, Penguin, and Catwoman as well.

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To me Spider-man has some good villains (Carnage, Venom Mysterio & Green Goblin) he has a lot of crappy ones Vulture, Shocker, Scorpion. Batman on the other hand has way too many class villains so to me this isn't even close. I wouldn't even say Spider-Man was second best villains. Think that's X-Men 2bh.

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Spidey.

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Spidey.

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Tied, Batman's are more psychological while Spidey's are more science-based and are more physical threats. There are exceptions for both however

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Bats

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Batman, far more unique and interesting rogues gallery.

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Batman

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Spidey by a good margin.

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Spidey stomps because it has Mysterio. What does Batman have? Penny Plunderer? Orca? Maybe Hugo Strange, he's decent

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Batman stomps because he has condiment king.

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Batman has better rogues, I find them more interesting and psychologically complex.

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Batman should be better, but most of his villains is not used well for a while, Freeze, Ra's, Riddler, Hush, are jokes these days, when they should be class A villains. Spidey villains are used better most of the time, and they're a good threat for him..

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#128 k4tzm4n  Moderator

@k4tzm4n said:

Vulture solos.

I stand by this.

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Batman without a doubt. Peter's villains are all sole deep.

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I love a lot of Spideys villains, even some of the more B-list ones like Hydroman and Rhino! Venom has and always will be perhaps my favourite of all time.

I know a lot of Bats' rogues too, and really like them (always have a soft spot for Freeze), but I have to go with Spideys. I grew up watching Spidey TAS over Batman.

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#131  Edited By Vertigo-

Peter's rogues gallery will always be the most iconic rouges gallery in comic books to me.

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#132  Edited By Michaelbn

Spidey:

Green Goblin -- Venom -- Carnage -- Doc Ock -- Rhino -- Mysterio -- Kraven -- Kingpin -- Sandman -- Shocker -- Vulture -- Scorpion -- Vermin -- Lizard -- Electro -- Chameleon

These guys came to my mind without thinking

Bats:

Joker -- Deadshot -- Shiva -- Bronze Tiger (occasionally) -- Deathstroke (occasionally) -- Ra's Al Ghul -- Talia -- Harley -- Killer croc -- electrocutioner -- Mister Freeze -- Bane -- Firefly

Same as above.

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Very hard one. I'll give it to Batman by a Millimeter.

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Batman by a decent bit, for good and obvious reasons

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Batman.

He has The Riddler, Bane, The Joker, and Ra's al Ghul. None of Spideys villains can rival those 4 Bat baddies for me.

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batman villains are definitely better. I prefer to fight the mentally insane and mobsters against people dressed as animals and mobsters

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Batman villains. Deeper storylines and more realistic. In a way Spider-Man has ripped off a lot of Batmans villains.

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@sinestro_gl said:

Batman.

Ask anyone off the street how many Batman villains they can name, and how many Spider-Man villains they can name. I'm sure that almost all would have more answers for Batman's rogues. While this doesn't necessarily mean that Batman's rogues are "better", so to speak, it does say that they are marketed better and are more popular due to Batman's popularity - which does have an element of being better.

99.9% of people off the street are only going to be able to name the Joker.

Joker, Penguin, Catwoman easily

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Batman just has more interesting villains.

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While Peter's gallery is cool, Bruce wins and it's not that close. Spiderman has what, his main 12 memorable ones (and most of them aren't even that interesting)? After that they're all carbon copy plain ideas mixed with mediocre/boring people.

Batman on the other hand has one of the most diverse Rogue's Galleries in ALL of comics. The only other person I see being equal or better to him overall is Flash. Every weird and perverted idea you could think of, there's probably a Batman villain for it. You want crazy? There's a villain for it. You want hilariously ridiculous? There's a villain for it. You want frightening? Theres a villain for it. You want someone to pity? There's a villain for it. You want someone you hate to love? There's a villain for it. I could go on and on and on. Not to mention they're all in the crazy city of Gotham, where you can't go a week without one of the major crime lords or villains executing some city-wide plan. They also all (well mostly all) fit in the common DC trope of villains-share-a-narrative-parallel-to-their-hero and it's one of the more interesting ones of: what a person does when they're faced with trauma. Each villain explores it differently and it leads to beautifully done storylines. Bruce also has one person that Peter doesn't... The Joker. I know people tend to overrate how amazing of a villain he is but seriously no one in Spiderman's rogue gallery can top him character wise.

Sorry for the long rant I just think people aren't looking at Batman's gallery as deep as they should against Spiderman's.

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They both have two of the best rogues gallery in comics if not the two best.I would pick Spider-Man personally.

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#144  Edited By Blackdog2009

No contest. Batman villains are more iconic and some even have their own movies. Catwoman (as bad as it was, no Spiderman villain will ever be as iconic or recognized as Catwoman), The Joker (pretty much a crown jewel of a role and also as iconic as they come.

Not to mention the tv show GOTHAM is a show about Batman's villains and it ran for many seasons. Very successful.

there is Venom … I liked that movie actually.