What are peoples thoughts, also what do you think is the worse major crossover event?
Best major crossover event in comics ever
I'm not really a fan of any MAJOR crossovers. None of them are really that good. I did really like Our Worlds At War though. Read that a couple times.
All of the Crisis stories were pretty boring (not counting Identity Crisis).
@Pokeysteve said:
I'm not really a fan of any MAJOR crossovers. None of them are really that good. I did really like Our Worlds At War though. Read that a couple times.
All of the Crisis stories were pretty boring (not counting Identity Crisis).
I will agree that crossover events are more often bad than good, but I mean not all the crisis were not horrible (identity crisis was awful) but crisis on infinite earths is a classic.
@kingsloth said:
@Pokeysteve said:
I'm not really a fan of any MAJOR crossovers. None of them are really that good. I did really like Our Worlds At War though. Read that a couple times.
All of the Crisis stories were pretty boring (not counting Identity Crisis).
I will agree that crossover events are more often bad than good, but I mean not all the crisis were not horrible (identity crisis was awful) but crisis on infinite earths is a classic.
I liked Infinite Crisis. Hated Final Crisis. Crisis On Infinite Earths is good but the first 1/2 - 2/3 is so boring. I thought Identity Crisis out shined all of them and it wasn't even part of the series. Definitely the best story.
I really enjoyed X-Men: Mutant Massacre, where it crossed into Thor, Power Pack and Daredevil.
Marvel vs DC is the best and worst! It was fixed but fans got to see one on one match ups with their favorites. Look at the Hulks head, you know this is bad but good!
I got back into comics shortly before Fear Itself, and between that and AVX, I've learned to hate major crossovers.
@Pokeysteve: I agree, I really liked Infinite Crisis & only made it through CoIE because it's almost "mandatory" to be a "real" DC fan. (Though to be fair to the story, it's hard for me to read old comics because the art is so far & away from what modern technology allows (and so now nice art gets me through slow parts in books). I couldn't make it through DKReturns because the art got to me so much).
@lightsout said:
@Pokeysteve: I agree, I really liked Infinite Crisis & only made it through CoIE because it's almost "mandatory" to be a "real" DC fan. (Though to be fair to the story, it's hard for me to read old comics because the art is so far & away from what modern technology allows (and so now nice art gets me through slow parts in books). I couldn't make it through DKReturns because the art got to me so much).
I know exactly what you mean! It's like peer pressure to read that lol. I really wanted to read 52 though, which I loved. I didn't have a problem with the art from DKR but have a hard time getting through anything drawn by Tim Sale.
Annihilation. I just re-read Annihilation with all the prequals and it is such a good story. That coupled with the Nova run, GOTG, Conquest, and the Thanos Imparative. It is an amazing character exploration of Richard Rider. After re-reading everything, I am almost happy that they are not using him for the new series. The story of Richard Rider from Annihilation to his death in the Imparative is perfect and shouldn't be tampered.
Well,the most influential, as well as the one that had the most lasting impact, would have to be "Crisis of Infinite Earths."
Personal favorite would be "Infinity Gauntlet."
@Markus_Langbourn said:
Easily. Superb tie-ins and miniseries and the best event main series of all time. Perfection in comic form.
QFT.
@MadeinBangladesh said:
I hate events Period
what's probably worse: Period events. (take that as you will)
wow...I see someone said Final Crisis....not one to start fights..but...wow. I'm a huge DC fan, not against events, and liked the idea of FC, but IDC that it was written by GM it was sloppy & just a chaotic mess. The novelization of it by Greg Cox was MUCH clearer & I really liked it (probably what GM envisioned but couldn't get out)
Crisis on Infinite Earths. When it came out, events like this were rare, and it was something like 4 years in the making. IMHO, still the best.
Worst: Secret Wars..same year, but it was pretty obvious Marvel just rushed it out to beat DC to the sales racks. That series was more like "4 weeks in the making" and it read like it.
To me, the greatest event ever is Crisis on Infinite Earths. Not because it's the best written, but because of the impact it had.
1. It took the convoluted mess that was the DC universe and made into a neat and tidy single universe. (unlike the New 52)
2. It gave us over two decades of interesting stories, keeping old characters without changing them /too/ drastically (unlike the New 52)
3. It gave us plenty of heartfelt moments, like Barry Allen sacrificing himself, and Supergirl dying.
To me, the greatest event ever is Crisis on Infinite Earths. Not because it's the best written, but because of the impact it had.
1. It took the convoluted mess that was the DC universe and made into a neat and tidy single universe. (unlike the New 52)
2. It gave us over two decades of interesting stories, keeping old characters without changing them /too/ drastically (unlike the New 52)
3. It gave us plenty of heartfelt moments, like Barry Allen sacrificing himself, and Supergirl dying.
QFT
Secret Wars because in just 3 pages you see Spidey utterly outclass the X-Men only for Professor X to hit the magical reset button in a "Right we're all agreed. That never happened right?" kinda way.
To me, the greatest event ever is Crisis on Infinite Earths. Not because it's the best written, but because of the impact it had.
1. It took the convoluted mess that was the DC universe and made into a neat and tidy single universe. (unlike the New 52)
2. It gave us over two decades of interesting stories, keeping old characters without changing them /too/ drastically (unlike the New 52)
3. It gave us plenty of heartfelt moments, like Barry Allen sacrificing himself, and Supergirl dying.
This
I'm not really a big fan with events. Major ones anyway. They are too long, too hard to keep up with and frankly most of them today are just bad.
I'd probably pick Secret Wars if that counts.
Keeping this to DC, mostly:
Best:
Crisis on Infinite Earths, the measuring stick for all major crossovers
Honorable mentions:
Final Crisis, for showing the modern reader what events should be if they want to go beyond momentary entertainment value.
Infinity, for being an excellent event of the sort that FC is not.
Worst:
Brightest Day, a complete non-starter that was ignored by nearly everyone under the banner at the time of print.
Dishonorable mentions:
Genesis, that it was ignored by just about everyone after it was over tells you why.
Infinite Crisis, the only redeeming thing about this dumb garbage is that it lead to the 52 series.
Marvel Best : Annihilation
Marvel Worst : Chaos War
DC Best : Sinestro Corps War
DC Worst : Brightest Day or Infinite Crisis
To me, the greatest event ever is Crisis on Infinite Earths. Not because it's the best written, but because of the impact it had.
1. It took the convoluted mess that was the DC universe and made into a neat and tidy single universe. (unlike the New 52)
2. It gave us over two decades of interesting stories, keeping old characters without changing them /too/ drastically (unlike the New 52)
3. It gave us plenty of heartfelt moments, like Barry Allen sacrificing himself, and Supergirl dying.
Totally this though I thought COIE had some really strong writing as well. It had a bigger cast of characters than most events today do yet did most of them justice in their appearances in the event. That's a hallmark of a good event storyline if ever there was a criteria set up for events.
Annihilation. I just re-read Annihilation with all the prequals and it is such a good story. That coupled with the Nova run, GOTG, Conquest, and the Thanos Imparative. It is an amazing character exploration of Richard Rider.
I stand by my opinion from a year ago that Annihilation is the best event. I was getting ready to post on this thread until I saw that I had already responded all that time ago.
I know it's not really an event, in the strictest sense, but given all the build up and mini tie ins to it, Grim Hunt is most certainly my favorite.
For the "traditionalists" (in before "Grim Hunt is not an event k plz thx) :
Best:
DC: Darkest Night, Final Crisis
Marvel: Civil War, Second Coming
Worst:
DC: COIE (blasphemy, but those old books have not aged well), Brightest Day
Marvel: Secret Invasion, Chaos War
Honorable Mentions:
Earth-X/Universe-X
Infinity
The Dark Knight Returns/Year One
Spider-Man: Reign
@Markus_Langbourn said:
Easily. Superb tie-ins and miniseries and the best event main series of all time. Perfection in comic form.
QFT.
Me too.
Annihilation. I just re-read Annihilation with all the prequals and it is such a good story. That coupled with the Nova run, GOTG, Conquest, and the Thanos Imparative. It is an amazing character exploration of Richard Rider.
I stand by my opinion from a year ago that Annihilation is the best event. I was getting ready to post on this thread until I saw that I had already responded all that time ago.
agreed
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