batfamily h2h ranking

1.Cassandra Cain

2.Bruce Wayne

3.Dick Grayson/Jason Todd

4.Tim Drake

5.Barbara Gorden

6.Damien Wayne

7.Stephanie Brown

8.Harper Row

IMO, this is how my ranking would go like.

1. Batman.
2. Batman.
3. Batman.
4. Batman.
5. Batman.
6. Batman.
7. Batman.
8. Batman.

yup

1. Cass Cain

2. Bruce

3. Dick Grayson

4.Jason Todd

5. Tim

6. Damian

7. Barbra (Not a slouch but wouldn't put her on the same level of the dudes sense most either grew up under bruce or are natural such as Damian)

I'd honestly put nightwing above bats now

@stormshadow_x: i think jason vs dick would end in a stalemate or double ko everytime

I think barbara can at least beat Damien,considering he's only ten.

Pre new 52 would be Batman, Cassandra Cain (she can beat any batfamily member due to body reading but not because of hand to hand skill), Tim Drake, Dick, Jason Todd, Damian wayne, Stephanie Brown, Barbara, Alfred

New 52 would be

Batman, Dick, Jason, Tim, Barbara, Alfred, Harper Row, and then Stephanie.

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: but below cassie right ?

What did he do to make you say that ? The midnighter stuff ?

@midnightdragon18: yh below cassie but i think bats may be better but not too sure plus dick been doing well vs bats lately they are quite similar

@jayc1324: tim above jason and dick why?

Jason stomped tim twice pre new 52

Although find Bruce more skilled than Cass I think her body reading gives her the edge in a hand to hand fight, slightly. Barring that I'd say:

Cass

Bruce

Dick

Jason

Tim

Barbara

Damian

Stephanie

Batman

Cass

Dick

Jason

Then they start being useless...

Exactly

@midnightdragon18: @allstarsuperman: So? Jason is vicious as hell. Cassandra would beat batman but is less skilled. Jason shouldn't be more skilled than tim or dick. Those two were the best.

New 52?

- Batman/Jason Todd (really debatable)

- Dick Grayson (really hate saying this but Jason has surpassed him in my opinion)

- Tim Drake

- Babara Gordon

- Alfred

- Titus

-Bat Cow

-Damian Wayne

1.Cassandra Cain

2. Everyone else

1. JPV

2. Cassandra Cain/Dick Grayson - I think Cain is definintely more skilled and much quicker, but Dick is the superior tactician and faster thinker. I think they could be interchangeable depending on the opponent, so I'm putting them down as a tie.

3. Cassandra Cain/Dick Grayson

4. Bruce Wayne

5. Jason Todd

6. Barbara Gordon

7. Tim Drake

8. Damian Wayne

9. Alfred Pennyworth

10. Stephanie Brown

1. Bruce

1. Alfred
2. Alfred
3. Alfred
4. Alfred
5. Alfred

1. Batman
2. Cassandra Cain
3. Nightwing
4. Red Hood
5. Tim Drake
6. Barbara Gordon
7. Damian Wayne

I personally believe Batman's more skilled than Cass, it's just that Cass has the ability to read body movements which can help her defeat other opponents

@lamdaddy20: but you do believe she could beat batman right ?

@midnightdragon18: In pure H2H combat, yes. If you include standard gear, I think it's a bit more debatable

@lamdaddy20: I thought it was a question of pure H2H. Maybe Batman has more skill and gear for a broader range of situations, but Cass has the edge here.

@darthmummy: Yep, Cass has the edge in H2H. I was just saying that in pure skill, Batman has the edge.

It depends on whether this is ranking the most skilled, or who the most formidable in a fight is.

Best trained:

1. Batman

2. Cassandra Cain (not actually sure just how well trained she was, and how much was due to her body reading)

3. Dick Grayson

4. Jason Todd

5. Tim Drake

After this you've got the likes of Babs and Damian. At the bottom presumably Harper and Stephanie in the is New 52 actually going to give them a purpose category.

This is a pure h2h list btw

Bruce > Cassie >> everyone else