Avengers Assemble is Stupid, Stupid, Stupid

Watched recent episodes of this show to give it a chance.

Hulk and Thor are reduced to one liners, whose only contribution is smashing a dime a dozen minions, while Tony usually comes up with a plan.

Cap isn't even the leader, doesn't do anything and overshadowed by Tony, who acts like a douchebag.

Falcon does absolutely nothing, except act like a fanboy to the heroes.

Hawkeye and Black Widow are the only tolerable characters in this show.

The series is like Ultimate Spiderman, no plot, just a random 1 episode bad guy each time.

Hell in episode 7, Hyperion genocides an entire planet, full of billions of people, and he gets put in jail...wtf

End rant, is Marvel even trying anymore?

Yeaaaaaaaaa, Marvel really isn't that competent when it comes to animated shows anymore.

@wolverine08: Have they ever been? I thought that was really DC's niche.

Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine & the X-Men and Avengers:EMH were all great.

Anyway, Avengers Assemble is a failure, and like the OP said, Hawkeye and Black Widow were tolerable...until last week's episode where they literally spent the entire episode bickering back and forth and trying to be "cute" with their snarky one liners...and why does Natasha sound like she's from LA instead of Russia??

@wolverine08: What's worse is DC isn't doing any better. Granted Beware the Batman is better then AA, but still mediocre, and Teen Titans Go is atrocious.

Ugh,when is Valiant or Image coming out with a series?

It's not stupid, it's for kids.

Seriously dude, don't waste your time watching that show, it isn't for us, literally.

It is stupid and I hate this mentality. Batman TAS,JL/JLU,SSM,X-men TAS, EMHs,Etc are all kid friendly shows that were enjoyable to a wide audience. "It's for kids" does not excuse a show from being horrible

What size T-shirt are you?

@strangeman: batman TAS was for kids, but adults like that show.

Agreed. Nowadays shows and such that are considered "family friendly" or enjoyable for the entire family really isn't...at all. It's just aimed mainly at younger children.

I'm not a kid...and I love the show. Not everything has to be a serious take on the superhero genre. As a great man once said, "Why so Serious?" just enjoy it for what it is, a lighthearted take on an already lighthearted show....or y'know, change the channel.

The thing about shows like JL,EMHS,and SSM that really made them good for kids was the fact that they educated them about the universes. EMH is a fantastic introduction in the Marvel universe and would encourage a kid to go out and read comics. These new shows don't even appeal to kids higher than the age of like 7

No, you can't put the DCAU and these new Marvel shows in the same bag. The DCAU was meant for Teens and up, it's something that's been clarified many times, kids could watch, of course, but the producers had another target in mind, hell, Bruce Timm even said that he remembers 30 year olds watching the premier.

These new shows on the other hand, have already been described as show for kids, as in 6 year old kids, and unlike the DCAU, they create these shows FOR kids, while the DCAU could be watched by kids, they were made with a whole other mindset and boundries.

6 year olds and 13 year olds are not the same.

@ximpossibrux: Yea, aren't really in the animated show Golden Age right now. Marvel and DC make immature shows just to appeal to toddlers.

I never said that adults can't enjoy childern's shows, I was just stating the fact that it is a childern's shows and to critisize it for being something that you don't want it to be is not a valid argument. None of this aimed at you of course.

Have you ever watched an episode of Earth's mightiest heroes?

I know, I was agreeing with you and adding an extra argument. People keep complaining about it being too ''silly'' and I say there's nothing wrong with it being silly, not every show has to be Batman TAS for Pete's sake.

EMH and Wolverine and the Xmen was one of the reasons that I got into Marvel.

You do realize that every point you've just made can also be applied to EMH...only they did it much better. Especially with adding supporting characters from the Marvel Universe

You see the problem isn't the shows themselves. If they want shows geared towards toddlers that's perfectly fine. What isn't fine is cancelling critically acclaimed shows that were enjoyed by a wide variety of people, then create shows that alienate all of those people and leave them with nothing. There was literally no reason why AA and EMHs couldnt run side by side.

My main problem with Avengers Assemble is the terrible direction they have taken with Falcon... Why the hell is he so associated with Iron Man? Why was he made a stupid fanboy-kid instead of an adult like the others? Why isn't he associated with Cap? Falcon is my main reason for hating the show. As usual, Black Widow and Hawkeye piss me off - I wish Hawkeye retained his EMH-self but of course, everything is now being based of the movies. Also, I hate how Hulk and Thor only appear as a pact whenever they show up... It's embarrassing/intimidating how this show is just representing them as powerhouses and giving all the development towards Cap and Iron Man.

Young Justice wasn't cancelled for Teen Titans Go (which was what I was talking about) As for EMH, I agree it is vastly superior to AA...but the only thing I can think of is they wanted the Avengers to be more like the Cinematic universe (i.e Hawkeye's change of clothes, making Black Widow a permanent member, adding Falcon) so they said ''screw EMH" let's make more money this way!

@the_stegman said:

@enzeru said:

I actually really like "Avengers Assemble".

I saw people complaining about how the Avengers were fighting over a cookie in one of the episodes and saying that it's too childish ... who cares? It's funny and adorable. Who wants to grow up anyways? I'm in my mid 20's and I didn't mind that scene at all. I don't even mind the childish stuff in "Ultimate Spider-Man" most of the time, but the one problem I have with that show is that it breaks up the action to show Spider-Man being a smart ass way too often.

But "Avengers Assemble"? Pay attention, when you look an episode and try to realize how much action they actually put into 22 minutes per episode! It's incredible! It's on pair with "Spectacular Spider-Man", which was one of the best shows so far, due to the amazing fights in the show.

I also like that "Avengers Assemble" is coming up with a good variety of characters. Who did we see so far? Red Skull, MODOK, the Adaptoid, Hyperion, the Molecule Man and most likely even more in just 8 episodes!

I hope that the show gets multiple seasons! I'm enjoying it a lot.

You do realize that every point you've just made can also be applied to EMH...only they did it much better. Especially with adding supporting characters from the Marvel Universe

Just seeing that makes me wanna cry ;.;. They could have done so much more.

I'm in the minority of people on here who likes it I don't love it but I like it. It's not terrible. EMH is still by far the best but marvel has put out some good animated series Avengers EMH Spectacular Spider Man( coming back this Saturday (: ) the and even wolverine and the X men had me excited for the second season with AOA but they all got canceled too early. It's not that marvel isn't putting any good animated series it's that there canceling them too early or after one of their movies promoting said animated series has already been milked for all it's money. Also lets not forget Avengers Assemble is targeted to a younger audience so where not going to see anywhere near the type of stuff we saw in the Flash point paradox movie just released. My little cousin who is 9 enjoys watching it and asks me to watch it with him along with Ultimate Spider Man and it makes me happy that he's enjoying the same heroes I grow up with.

Yeah that's exactly why they did it but that also makes my idea perfectly valid. Most of the people who went and saw the avengers are never going to go and watch other things related to them. AA could have been for the toddlers/kids who went and saw the movies and liked them, while EMH could have been for the older audience/comic fans. Not even like EMH was doing bad or anything

Oh, I'm sorry, guess I gotta work on my reading comprehension a lil' bit.

Anywho, I agree, It's sad that Marvel has other intentions for their cartoons but reacting this way isn't gonna solve anything, they're not gonna take a dark turn all of the sudden to please you people and they really shouldn't, and that doesn't make them bad shows, it's like complaining that a show like Blue's Clues isn't good because it's not dark enough. That's why I'm saying that you guys shouldn't waste your time, the show's not gonna change, so if you don't like it, that's it.

@enzeru: Dude to say this show is on par with SSM is just...no. I get why this show exists but like i've said in all my other posts, this could have ran alongside EMH.

@enzeru said:

@the_stegman said:

You do realize that every point you've just made can also be applied to EMH...only they did it much better. Especially with adding supporting characters from the Marvel Universe

You do realize that "Avengers Assemble" is not "Earth's Mightiest Heroes", right? You do realize that "Avengers Assemble" is all about the characters from the Avenger movie and the upcoming Avenger movie? Marvel wants to support that franchise by making you more familiar with these characters.

It's impossible for these two shows to co-exist, because of the way how similar they are.

You do realize that we're only at episode 8 of the show, while "EMH" had over 50 episodes?

Judging by your logic "Marvel Superhero Squad" is better than "EMH", because it introduced even more characters.

Back to "Avengers Assemble" ... shows are only made to support other franchises like movies and comics and on top of that ... to sell toys and guess what, who buys toys? CHILDREN. You can't make a show nowdays without having childish aspects in it, since there is still a group of people you're trying to please.

1. I know it's not EMH, they cancelled EMH for this inferior show just to capitalize on the success of the cinematic universe, it's unnecessary and greedy, they axed a very well written show for a cash grab.

2. I know we are only 8 episodes in, my point was you said "I like how AA brings in different characters each show" My retort is, EMH also brought in new characters, not just from the later episodes, BUT FROM DAY ONE. They even released web episodes dedicated to each Avenger and their SUPPORTING CAST before the show even aired. As I said, EMH did the character introduction better.

You see the problem with your logic is thinking that any child who watches AA is going to go out and buy comics. EMH is not a show for adults. It is a show that can be enjoyed by adults but was targeted for kids. That show was a million times more likely to get people to go and buy comics and become involved with other marvel stuff. AA is written and aimed towards an audience that wouldn't even be able to comprehend the current Avengers book and would be shocked to see that it isn't about Hawkeye and Hulk fighting over cookies. How do you think most of the kids who loved EMHs feel? They're as alienated as adults are.

Honestly it disgust me when people use the term "Its aimed at kids" or "Its cartoon" its statements like those that gives networks the impression not to challenge viewers or give them more credit. What pisses me off about the current direction of Marvel animation is how it degrades its viewers Thinking they don't need to put effort into what their making and thus give us shlock like Avengers Assemble, Ultimate Spider-Man, and Hulk Agents of SMASH. But hey if you like it good more power to you, but me I'm not going to bother to watch until Loeb is off Marvel animation and someone more competent comes along to take over.

Alright. Not gonna sit here and argue with you all night. They aren't making better decisions and the fact that you believe people who run these companies are smarter than normal people actually blows my mind.

I really don't think it is that bad. EMH didn't have that many heroes till further in the season. I actually think avengers assemble is more humorous. They have the same voice actors i think . There are only 7 episodes out i think.

I... never believed it would be good in the first place.

It's from the same makers of the ultimate spider-man show, s*** was to be expected.

why would Marvel cancel their best shows like EMH and Wolverine and the X-Men for garbage?

Wolverine and the Xmen bit it because of the merger with Disney. EMH bit it because it's producers are not inhouse from Disney and because they wanted a quick cash in with the movie's popularity.

You know, instead of letting it run it's course like Justice League.

oh. JL was a good series though.

Earth's Mightiest Heroes forever!!!

They made huge progress in portraying a Marvel Universe; In just two seasons they developed Asgard, Wakanda, Skrulls and the Kree empire! We saw classic badguys and their respective teams (Masters of Evil, Hydra, AIM), as well as recently created characters like Red Hulk and Winter Soldier!

They introduced new team mates with good pacing (vision, ms marvel), but also had some great, personal character developments (Cap imprisoned by the Skrull, Pym going being an outcast and going a bit nuts, Hawkeye and Blackwidows relationship).

And as a bonus, we even got to see loads of non-classic avengers in the show; wolverine, spider-man, luke cage, iron fist, war machine, GotG.

I would recommend this show to anyone with a Marvel interest. And as for 'Avengers Assemble', it's like the toddler version of EMH

@ximpossibrux:

Ah... well... I haven't seen the show - I watched Avengers: EMH... loved it... not entirely interested in this one.

- TAS

Critiquing a cartoon for kids between the age of 6 to 14 years as an adult is stupid stupid stupid.

Does The Walking Dead count ?

I agree.