are The X-Men Really a Rip-Off of The Doom Patrol?

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#2  Edited By danhimself

everything is a rip off of everything else

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#3  Edited By Macest128

@danhimself said:

everything is a rip off of everything else

after doing alot of research i think mostly anything marvel creates is a rip-off of something from dc example

the hulk is a rip-off of solomon grundy

dr strange is a rip-off of dr fate

ironman is a rip-off of s.t.r.i.p.e

moon knight is a rip-off of batman

the vision is a rip-off of martian manhunter

hawk-eye is a rip-off of green arrow

the sentry is a rip-off of superman

black cat is a rip-off of catwomen

jigsaw is a rip-off of two-face

magneto is a rip-off of dr polaris

apocalyspe and thanos are rip-off of darkseid

deadpool is a rip-off of deathstroke

the young avengers are a rip-off of the teen titans

quasar is a rip-off of green lantern

and im not sure if the avengers are a rip-off of the justice league

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#4  Edited By SC  Moderator
@danhimself said:

everything is a rip off of everything else

 
This.  
 
@Macest128:  Erm... Hulk is a 'rip off' of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde and a bit of Frankenstein plus you know that DC did not come up with Solomon Grundy? Do you know who Aarkus is? Sentry is a deconstruction of Superman not a rip off, the same Superman who appears in the link in your OP... as being a rip off... the same Superman "inspired" by mythological Hercules... I don't know man... oh and Fantastic Four was Marvel's 'response' to JLA. 
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#5  Edited By TheCrowbar

Marvel focuses more on interpersonal drama while DC is a bit more action/adventure/mystery. So while they have similar heroes, they play out differently because how each company treats its properties.

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#6  Edited By Mercy_
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Marvel focuses more on interpersonal drama while DC is a bit more action/adventure/mystery. So while they have similar heroes, they play out differently because how each company treats its properties.
I find myself cosigning you quite often.
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Marvel focuses more on interpersonal drama while DC is a bit more action/adventure/mystery. So while they have similar heroes, they play out differently because how each company treats its properties.
I find myself cosigning you quite often.
It's because I'm stealing your ideas from your head and just typing them out faster.
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#8  Edited By WARLOCK2792

OMG, I almost died when I saw "The Lion King"...........MAJOR WTF moment for me right there.........I'm in shock really..............THE LION'S NAME WAS KIMBA!

That's saggy tube top shameless

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#9  Edited By Macest128

@SC said:

@danhimself said:

everything is a rip off of everything else


This.

@Macest128: Erm... Hulk is a 'rip off' of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde and a bit of Frankenstein plus you know that DC did not come up with Solomon Grundy? Do you know who Aarkus is? Sentry is a deconstruction of Superman not a rip off, the same Superman who appears in the link in your OP... as being a rip off... the same Superman "inspired" by mythological Hercules... I don't know man... oh and Fantastic Four was Marvel's 'response' to JLA.

yeah and dc does not rip-off of marvel as much as marvel rip-offs of dc

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#10  Edited By WARLOCK2792

They're all rip-offs. Some people just know how to work it better than others.........in addition to having loads more marketing advantages via boocoocash

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@Macest128 said:

yeah and dc does not rip-off of marvel as much as marvel rip-offs of dc

 
Yeah but you think "Hulk is a rip off of Solomon Grundy" so of course you would think that lol 
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#12  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@Macest128 said:

@danhimself said:

everything is a rip off of everything else

after doing alot of research i think mostly anything marvel creates is a rip-off of something from dc example

the hulk is a rip-off of solomon grundy

dr strange is a rip-off of dr fate

ironman is a rip-off of s.t.r.i.p.e

moon knight is a rip-off of batman

the vision is a rip-off of martian manhunter

hawk-eye is a rip-off of green arrow

the sentry is a rip-off of superman

black cat is a rip-off of catwomen

jigsaw is a rip-off of two-face

magneto is a rip-off of dr polaris

apocalyspe and thanos are rip-off of darkseid

deadpool is a rip-off of deathstroke

the young avengers are a rip-off of the teen titans

quasar is a rip-off of green lantern

and im not sure if the avengers are a rip-off of the justice league

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#13  Edited By ithinkitwasyou

@Macest128: having the same powers does not equate the character is a rip off.

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#14  Edited By The Impersonator

@Macest128: That's quite a lot of rip-offs there.

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#15  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@ithinkitwasyou said:

@Macest128: having the same powers does not equate the character is a rip off.

It's not just that.

Dr. Strange and Doctor Fate both have 3 Amulets and get their powers from a god.

Moon Knight has even been admitted by Marvel as based from Batman

Sentry is obviously a rip-off of Supes but it was meant to insult DC

Deadpool/Deathstroke are obvious ripoffs

So are Aquaman & Namor

Hank Pym & Ray Palmer

Hawkeye & Green Arrow are similar also.

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@danhimself: LOL So true

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#17  Edited By miker31

X-men still rules! Doom Patrol sucks just saying!

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#18  Edited By ithinkitwasyou

@Jnr6Lil: We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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#19  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@ithinkitwasyou said:

@Jnr6Lil: We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Yeah.

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#20  Edited By Benzo

Doom Patrol FTW! :D

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#21  Edited By Icarusflies  Moderator

@Benzo said:

Doom Patrol FTW! :D

YEAH!

One interesting thing is that there was an issue of Doom Patrol where they had a rip-off version of the X-Men. Written by Grant Morrison of course. Lots of fun.

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#22  Edited By Billy Batson

@Benzo said:

Doom Patrol FTW! :D

this.
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#23  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
@Macest128: Actually Catwoman was changed to be more like Black Cat
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#24  Edited By InnerVenom123

@Jnr6Lil said:

@ithinkitwasyou said:

@Macest128: having the same powers does not equate the character is a rip off.

It's not just that.

Dr. Strange and Doctor Fate both have 3 Amulets and get their powers from a god.

Moon Knight has even been admitted by Marvel as based from Batman

Sentry is obviously a rip-off of Supes but it was meant to insult DC

Deadpool/Deathstroke are obvious ripoffs

So are Aquaman & Namor

Hank Pym & Ray Palmer

Hawkeye & Green Arrow are similar also.

Namor was first.

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#25  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

@ithinkitwasyou said:

@Macest128: having the same powers does not equate the character is a rip off.

It's not just that.

Dr. Strange and Doctor Fate both have 3 Amulets and get their powers from a god.

Moon Knight has even been admitted by Marvel as based from Batman

Sentry is obviously a rip-off of Supes but it was meant to insult DC

Deadpool/Deathstroke are obvious ripoffs

So are Aquaman & Namor

Hank Pym & Ray Palmer

Hawkeye & Green Arrow are similar also.

Namor was first.

Ah

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@InnerVenom123 said:

Namor was first.

 
Was first superhero to fly as well. Flying characters rip off of Superman? No, flying characters = ripping of Imperious Fish Text.
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@SC said:
@InnerVenom123 said:

Namor was first.

 Was first superhero to fly as well. Flying characters rip off of Superman? No, flying characters = ripping of Imperious Fish Text.
Lol. BTW  are you English?
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Lol. BTW  are you English?
 
... I am not an illegal immigrant....  here I will show you my birth certificate... its just over.....
 
*runs down street, jumps over fence and hides in a bush* 
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@SC said:
@spiderbat87 said:
Lol. BTW  are you English?
 ... I am not an illegal immigrant....  here I will show you my birth certificate... its just over..... *runs down street, jumps over fence and hides in a bush* 
Lol no I mean opposed to being American?
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#30  Edited By firewrkninja

Deadpool is a parody of deathstroke not a rip-off

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#31  Edited By WizardShazam

I would say they are more of a rip-off than Captain Marvel/Superman, and that only ended in tears.

I don't think anyone mentioned my favorite rip-off yet...

Marvel creates Thanos, based on Darkseid. Then DC creates Mongul, based on Thanos. It's pretty much the Inception of rip-offs.

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#32  Edited By gangly

Oh man. So true, so true.

And Thor is SUCH a rip off of... oh, wait.

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#33  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@gangly said:

Oh man. So true, so true.

And Thor is SUCH a rip off of... oh, wait.

of who

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#34  Edited By gangly

@Jnr6Lil: Of Thor, of course. ;)

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#35  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@gangly said:

@Jnr6Lil: Of Thor, of course. ;)

Ah

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#36  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

a "ripoff" is more than sharing similar powers, most of the people on the ripoff list have nothing in common besides powersets...also, i always considered X men to be more similar to the Legion of Superheroes 

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#37  Edited By CODYSF

Doom Patrol PWNS..

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#38  Edited By DoomDoomDoom

@Macest128:

@Benzo said:

Doom Patrol FTW! :D

This.

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#39  Edited By Foolkiller

@Macest128 said:

ironman is a rip-off of s.t.r.i.p.e

S.T.R.I.P.E. didn't even have a suit until 1999

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#40  Edited By Kairan1979
@The Stegman said:
a "ripoff" is more than sharing similar powers, most of the people on the ripoff list have nothing in common besides powersets...also, i always considered X men to be more similar to the Legion of Superheroes 
I agree. For example, Gladiator from Marvel Comics has similar powers with Superman, and even similar name, but you can't think of more different personalities.
I'm surprised that the author of the article mentioned Zorro, but forgot to mention The Shadow. Or parallels between Doc Savage, the Man of Bronze and Superman, the Man of Steel.
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#41  Edited By Daycrawler

@Macest128 said:

@danhimself said:

everything is a rip off of everything else

after doing alot of research i think mostly anything marvel creates is a rip-off of something from dc example

the hulk is a rip-off of solomon grundy

dr strange is a rip-off of dr fate

ironman is a rip-off of s.t.r.i.p.e

moon knight is a rip-off of batman

the vision is a rip-off of martian manhunter

hawk-eye is a rip-off of green arrow

the sentry is a rip-off of superman

black cat is a rip-off of catwomen

jigsaw is a rip-off of two-face

magneto is a rip-off of dr polaris

apocalyspe and thanos are rip-off of darkseid

deadpool is a rip-off of deathstroke

the young avengers are a rip-off of the teen titans

quasar is a rip-off of green lantern

and im not sure if the avengers are a rip-off of the justice league

Possibly, possibly not, but Marvel seems to do them better. Or at the very least give them better names. Deathstroke makes me think of an old dude that's died of a stroke - "'I'm sorry sir, your father had a deathstroke, the worst of all strokes". Green Latern - poor name (orange torch, purple glowstick). S.T.R.I.P.E. - versus the agents of Z.I.G.Z.A.G. Martian Manhunter - too much of a dated 50's vibe going on there. Moon Knight is a poor name also though, so not saying Marvel is perfect at naming too!

Oh, and I think comparing jigsaw to two-face is a bit of a stretch to be honest.

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There is no such thing as originality.

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#43  Edited By Shadowdoggy

@Macest128 said:

@danhimself said:

everything is a rip off of everything else

after doing alot of research i think mostly anything marvel creates is a rip-off of something from dc example

the hulk is a rip-off of solomon grundy

dr strange is a rip-off of dr fate

ironman is a rip-off of s.t.r.i.p.e

moon knight is a rip-off of batman

the vision is a rip-off of martian manhunter

hawk-eye is a rip-off of green arrow

the sentry is a rip-off of superman

black cat is a rip-off of catwomen

jigsaw is a rip-off of two-face

magneto is a rip-off of dr polaris

apocalyspe and thanos are rip-off of darkseid

deadpool is a rip-off of deathstroke

the young avengers are a rip-off of the teen titans

quasar is a rip-off of green lantern

and im not sure if the avengers are a rip-off of the justice league

first of all, let me say, I'm no Marvel fanboy. I read lots of DC and don't hold either in higher regard than the other. Yes, I agree that DC and Marvel have been ripping off each other pretty openly for decades...but I think some of your examples are a bit of a stretch.....

1- the Hulk was actually based on Frakenstein's monster but whatever

2- because they're both magical? That's the only similarity, right?

3- STRIPE may have come first but Iron Man is by far the best known of the 2. And again, it's only their tech that's in any way similar

4- that's an old and heavily discussed debate. They're similar....but so is every other vigilante hero...are they all just rip offs of Batman? Hard to say.

5- kinda, yeah.

6- they're both just very blatent rip offs of Robin Hood

7- well...yeah, wasn't that sort of the point though? He was supposed to be Marvel's "superman-level" hero.

8- no, actually Black Cat dated Spidey, stole lots of stuff, and dressed like a hoe before Catwoman did- Selina's older, but she wasn't always so sex-kitten

9- that's a stretch

10- see #2 but replace "magical" with "ferrokinetic"

11- Thanos maybe...Apocalypse, not so much

12- obviously, yes

13- actually, I think the Young Avengers are a rip off of the Avengers....just younger...and the Teen Titans were almost all pre-existing characters, YA's were all made up for the YA's

14- yeah, sorta, but only sorta

15- you forgot to mention that the Imperial Guard are rip-off's of the Legion of Superheroes

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#44  Edited By entropy_aegis

@firewrkninja said:

Deadpool is a parody of deathstroke not a rip-off

That's sugar coating it.

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#45  Edited By Jnr6Lil

@Shadowdoggy said:

@Macest128 said:

@danhimself said:

everything is a rip off of everything else

after doing alot of research i think mostly anything marvel creates is a rip-off of something from dc example

the hulk is a rip-off of solomon grundy

dr strange is a rip-off of dr fate

ironman is a rip-off of s.t.r.i.p.e

moon knight is a rip-off of batman

the vision is a rip-off of martian manhunter

hawk-eye is a rip-off of green arrow

the sentry is a rip-off of superman

black cat is a rip-off of catwomen

jigsaw is a rip-off of two-face

magneto is a rip-off of dr polaris

apocalyspe and thanos are rip-off of darkseid

deadpool is a rip-off of deathstroke

the young avengers are a rip-off of the teen titans

quasar is a rip-off of green lantern

and im not sure if the avengers are a rip-off of the justice league

first of all, let me say, I'm no Marvel fanboy. I read lots of DC and don't hold either in higher regard than the other. Yes, I agree that DC and Marvel have been ripping off each other pretty openly for decades...but I think some of your examples are a bit of a stretch.....

1- the Hulk was actually based on Frakenstein's monster but whatever

2- because they're both magical? That's the only similarity, right?

3- STRIPE may have come first but Iron Man is by far the best known of the 2. And again, it's only their tech that's in any way similar

4- that's an old and heavily discussed debate. They're similar....but so is every other vigilante hero...are they all just rip offs of Batman? Hard to say.

5- kinda, yeah.

6- they're both just very blatent rip offs of Robin Hood

7- well...yeah, wasn't that sort of the point though? He was supposed to be Marvel's "superman-level" hero.

8- no, actually Black Cat dated Spidey, stole lots of stuff, and dressed like a hoe before Catwoman did- Selina's older, but she wasn't always so sex-kitten

9- that's a stretch

10- see #2 but replace "magical" with "ferrokinetic"

11- Thanos maybe...Apocalypse, not so much

12- obviously, yes

13- actually, I think the Young Avengers are a rip off of the Avengers....just younger...and the Teen Titans were almost all pre-existing characters, YA's were all made up for the YA's

14- yeah, sorta, but only sorta

15- you forgot to mention that the Imperial Guard are rip-off's of the Legion of Superheroes

Yeah, Teen Titans were meant to be a Young Justice League, and Young Avengers were meant to be Young Avengers, no pun intended.

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#46  Edited By Shadowdoggy

@Jnr6Lil: exactly

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#47  Edited By CrazyScarecrow

Vision was more of a Red Tornado rip-off than a Martian Manhunter. The character Pat Dugan was around before Iron Man, but Pat did not become S.T.R.I.P.E until the 90's. Thanos reminded me more of a Darkseid rip-off.

To answer the forum question. I think Doom Patrol is a rip-off. Especially when it comes to the leader and the villain group they are against. However I do like Doom Patrol more than X-Men (Huge DC fan and I like how Doom Patrol is visited once in a while while X-Men gets shoved in our faces in all forms of media) so it could be biased opinion for me.

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@crazyscarecrow said:

Vision was more of a Red Tornado rip-off than a Martian Manhunter. The character Pat Dugan was around before Iron Man, but Pat did not become S.T.R.I.P.E until the 90's. Thanos reminded me more of a Darkseid rip-off.

To answer the forum question. I think Doom Patrol is a rip-off. Especially when it comes to the leader and the villain group they are against. However I do like Doom Patrol more than X-Men (Huge DC fan and I like how Doom Patrol is visited once in a while while X-Men gets shoved in our faces in all forms of media) so it could be biased opinion for me.

How can Doom Patrol be a rip off if they came before the X-men?

And Thanos is a rip off of Darkseid.

Starlin has admitted the character is influenced by Jack Kirby's Darkseid:

Kirby had done the New Gods, which I thought was terrific. He was over at DC at the time. I came up with some things that were inspired by that. You'd think that Thanos was inspired by Darkseid, but that was not the case when I showed up. In my first Thanos drawings, if he looked like anybody, it was Metron. I had all these different gods and things I wanted to do, which became Thanos and the Titans. Roy took one look at the guy in the Metron-like chair and said : "Beef him up! If you're going to steal one of the New Gods, at least rip off Darkseid, the really good one!"
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#49  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

To answer the forum question. I think Doom Patrol is a rip-off. Especially when it comes to the leader and the villain group they are against. However I do like Doom Patrol more than X-Men (Huge DC fan and I like how Doom Patrol is visited once in a while while X-Men gets shoved in our faces in all forms of media) so it could be biased opinion for me.

The X-Men ripped off the Doom Patrol, not the other way around. The Doom Patrol came first.

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#50  Edited By Wolverine008

People really use the term "rip off" too easily now.