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#1 Edited by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

Always had an interest in the Justice League as a team as opposed to one member. Are they good though? Also about how many issues are there so far?

#2 Posted by waezi2 (6854 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: Well, it has its strengths. I like the fact that Steve Trevor were as important to the team as he were. In fact, after he stopped being a regular character in the book, I stopped reading. But I think that making WW and Sups a couple because Twilight is hip is stupid.

But forget the last part. I think that you should give JL a shot.

#3 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

justice league dark is the only decent one. 20 something issues.

#4 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Edited by waezi2 (6854 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: Does Justice League Dark have any connection to the actual JL team, or is it just a name to sell the book? Just curios.

#6 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6145 posts) - - Show Bio

@waezi2 said:

@thetimestreamer: Does Justice League Dark have any connection to the actual JL team, or is it just a name to sell the book? Just curios.

It's just a name. They don't call themselves that, and it was just a name that they were jokingly referred to as.

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#7 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: bland, uninspired stories. the overhyping of the bad guys only to be taken down in 2 panels. the doucheyness of the characters. the good thing is the art. just like flash's comic.

@waezi2: my guess they named it that for name recognision but it really is a supernatural justice league that deals with supernatural stuff. and only that. some of the character on the teams know each other but they dont keep contact or discuss threats.

#8 Posted by waezi2 (6854 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Posted by TDK_1997 (14474 posts) - - Show Bio

Both books were pretty bad until Trinity War.Right now the books are pretty decent and I just love them although the story isn't anything special.

#10 Posted by Squalleon (4181 posts) - - Show Bio

Throne of atlantis was good, origins and the villian's journey was mediocre both artwise and scriptwise.

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#11 Edited by Ace20XD6 (235 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I was surprised by how much I liked the new JLA series when DC had that "Road to Trinity War" sale going on last weekend.

#12 Edited by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6145 posts) - - Show Bio
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#13 Posted by Z3RO180 (6335 posts) - - Show Bio

Origins and villians journey are pretty good

#14 Edited by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: whats a good new 52 comic then? Besides jla dark

@waezi2: anything about regular justice league comics you don't like?

#15 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17359 posts) - - Show Bio

Not really.

Try action comics from November, good creative team comes in.

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#16 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: with the jl or a team book or a good comic in general?

#17 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@waezi2: is it the best comic regarding the JLA?

#19 Edited by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: actually whats a good new 52 comic in general? Im guessing there arent many team books in dc besides jla right?

#20 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: animal man and swamp thing. wonder woman. everybody is raving about green arrow, only recently. the first like 17 issues were total crap.

#21 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought Throne of Atlantis was alright. I've been reading JL ever since then and it hasn't made me want to vomit. JLA I'm not really into that much. JLD was good ever since Lemire took over.

#22 Posted by Emp3rorD4v1d (109 posts) - - Show Bio

teen titans is okay , you should read tgat and redhood and the outlaws. oh and villai.s month is gonna be sweet.

get yourself some jl books, throne of atlantis and trinity war are good.

#23 Posted by ColaNicole (574 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: personally I think JL is the best New52 title. It's like a big fun movie. If I could only read one title, it would be JL.

#24 Edited by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@spinningbirdcake: @emp3rord4v1d:

Forgive me as im new to reading comics but is say, throne of atlantis, 1 comic or like a mini series of 3 or something?

#25 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: good to hear animal man is good. Always liked him. What would you recommend for JLA besides dark?

#26 Edited by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

Regular JL book changes in quality a lot while JLA and JLD have been consistently good imo

@spinningbirdcake: @emp3rord4v1d:

Forgive me as im new to reading comics but is say, throne of atlantis, 1 comic or like a mini series of 3 or something?

Throne of Atlantis is a crossover between Aquaman and Justice league. Counting the prologue and epilogue it's like 6 or 7 issues

#27 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6157 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: I love the New 52 Justice League. My third or fourth favorite book right now.

#28 Posted by Wolverine08 (38938 posts) - - Show Bio

It's sucked really besides the Throne of Atlantis arc.

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#29 Posted by TimeLordScience (770 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's pretty despicably bad for a book that sells as well as it does. It has its moments but some of the dialogue is so stupid and the plots are often uninspired and unsophisticated. Also, don't listen to the fanboys-- Trinity War was god awful. The best team books out there right now, IMO, are New Avengers and FF. This is coming from someone who likes DC characters more.

#30 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

.Also, don't listen to the fanboys-- Trinity War was god awful.

Yes because people have different opinions they are clearly fanboys.

#32 Edited by Mr.Q (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
#33 Edited by RulerOfThisUniverse (6157 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: Well, my favorite comics right now are Batman (first), Aquaman (second), and The Flash or Justice League (third/fourth). I love JL for the blockbuster level action while still keeping great characterization, amazing artwork from my favorite artist Jim Lee, and the interactions of the JL, especially in the first arc. I completely disagree with the reasons TheTimeStreamer listed for hating it (especially the villains being taken out in two panels.. Seriously, what the hell?). There can be some weak bits (like the second half of issue 7) but overall, it's a really good book.

#34 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@rulerofthisuniverse: oh yeah? what about cheetah? huh how was that difficult opponent? i am not surprised by your favorite picks. mediocre all of them, maybe not aquaman but even that book's quality in story is starting to decline.

#36 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's pretty despicably bad for a book that sells as well as it does. It has its moments but some of the dialogue is so stupid and the plots are often uninspired and unsophisticated. Also, don't listen to the fanboys-- Trinity War was god awful. The best team books out there right now, IMO, are New Avengers and FF. This is coming from someone who likes DC characters more.

What New 52 comics would you recommend then?

#38 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: look. how new are you to comics? what have you read and how much?

#39 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: basically none unless you count killing joke haha. I know a lot about all the characters though if that's what your asking. Why?

#40 Edited by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: I like the Justice League though and thought that would be a good place to start, seeing as I can branch off to other New 52s from there

#41 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@giantsfan576: i'm not asking to know if you know the characters. i'll be frank here: you, as novice, might find the new52 jl entertaining. you havent been exposed to comics much. but when you'll read some of the older stuff (i encourage that, you'll see it for what it really is). as for the branching off, none of the new52 books are that much connected, like at all. only a few tie-ins here and there. the jl is a horrible branching off point. the characters there are not the same as the ones in their individual books. you like superman, read now because pak is writing it and he's great. do not read anything with superman and lobdell on the cover. wonder woman is good consistently. flash - all art poor story and basically living off introducing fan favorites in an uninspired fashion. green lantern is good on all fronts except red lanterns. batman is dead in the water. snyder's writing is abysmal plus all he does is rehash older, better stories making them edgier (batman flipping the bird to the bad guys, GENIUS). let me show his 'originality': death in the family - death of the family (in the first the effects lasted decades, in the later until next issue), year one - zero year (so far it's crap and nothing interesting). he'll probably do next whisper, rip off of hush.

#42 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: what do you recommend I start with then? Whats a good one to start with in all of DC?

#43 Posted by Emp3rorD4v1d (109 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah superman is good right now, green lanterns was great, i stopped reading once geaff johns finished his take. id recommamend green lantern 1_29, superman, superman unchained, and batgirl,noghtwing, and if you like batman get some batman comics, dont know which ones though as im currently nt reading those. um, get batman/superman, the art is weird but you get used to it. and if you really like superman get all star superman its a really good c good.

#44 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Edited by TimeLordScience (770 posts) - - Show Bio

@peppeyhare said:

@timelordscience said:

.Also, don't listen to the fanboys-- Trinity War was god awful.

Yes because people have different opinions they are clearly fanboys.

Fine then. What exactly was good about it? I feel like the only reason people even bother mentioning it is because they came all over the place with fanboyism at the Atom "twist" and the Earth 3 arrivals.

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The best New 52 title is Wonder Woman. Batman/Superman seems to be good so far.

#46 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

@rulerofthisuniverse: @thetimestreamer: Getting REALLY mixed answers. Someone needs to clear it up.

I think the thing to take away from this is that you're probably not going to get a clear answer. I'll say that JL is probably easier to read if you haven't been reading DC for the past decade or so. Just give it a shot. But if you ARE going to give it a shot I would say don't try anything before the Throne of Atlantis arc which begins with #15. Whatever your people's opinions of the title now it's almost unanimous that it started horribly.

#47 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6157 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer: @giantsfan576: Batman is "dead in the water?" Scott Snyder's writing is "abysmal?" The Flash is "all art no story?" Are we talking about different comics here??? Batman is my favorite book at the moment. It's a great mix of the classic Batman works and great horror aspects. Scott Snyder is my favorite current writer, and probably one of my top ten favorites of all time. The Flash has good writing along with absolutely phenomenal art. They're not on the same level of quality, but the writing is still consistently fun and original. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

#48 Posted by giantsfan576 (1071 posts) - - Show Bio
#49 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@rulerofthisuniverse: from your posts you dont know what quality writing is. and you are confusing classic with ripping off. but i'm done arguing with snyder fans.

#50 Edited by Vaccine (277 posts) - - Show Bio

I like it. The Trinity War arc has been nothing but good so far. Like the majority that have stated here, the Throne of Atlantis arc was superb.