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Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

 So I noticed a lot of people read mostly american and manga title on this website. So I wonder, are there any others like me that also read European comics like stuff from Soleil and Lombard. Stuff by these companies are some of my favorite reads ever, but there never seems to be anyone who knows what I'm talking about. So I'll just ask the question: anyone read anything from them? And if not would it be worth my time for me to post threads on their products so people can learn more?
 
I'm starved for conversation on this subject so all feel free to jyve in and open a discussion.

#1 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

I would like to read some but it's not so easy when they are in various languages I don't speak and are not really sold here =/

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#2 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@aztek the lost said:
" I would like to read some but it's not so easy when they are in various languages I don't speak and are not really sold here =/ "
I guess that's true enough. Some of originally from Solei are advertised on the site however. Secret History for example was announced last week and that was originally from Soleil. So i thought at least a few people would have read some of it.
 
But I guess they are easier to get here in Quebec then in the U.S.
 
Still would it be worth my time to post reviews on some of what I read to try and spark interest?
#3 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach: well I do know about Marvel reprinting some comics from Soleil but what I think of more with European comics I want to read, 2000AD always comes to mind...but yes, if you want to spark interest go for it, I've always tried to do that with Vertigo and little by little I feel I'm succeeding so as the population here grows I think you'll find more interested individuals
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#4 Posted by Gylan Thomas (2727 posts) - - Show Bio

I read the first book of The Scorpion series a little while ago.
Some good stuff available but finding English translations is the difficult part.
Also I learned parts of the English Scorpions are cut and censored. So I missed the boobage :(

#5 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool, then I will post a review soon :) on "Druids", one of my favorite series so far.
 
and to everyone, If you want to learn more on the subject, feel free to look me up :)

#6 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gylan Thomas: @Gylan Thomas said:
" I read the first book of The Scorpion series a little while ago. Some good stuff available but finding English translations is the difficult part. Also I learned parts of the English Scorpions are cut and censored. So I missed the boobage :( "
And how I saw the difference when I saw a translated version once (I'm actually currently reading it in the original french language). Why is the female body so censored in the U.S. Is it not one of the most beautiful things in the world?
#7 Posted by Gylan Thomas (2727 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach: 
 
Daftest part was the translation I got was still rated 15 or soem thing.
Surely it was just a bit of boob? If you don't like it don't look.
#8 Posted by Rabbit Tots (477 posts) - - Show Bio

I've read the The League of Extrodinary Gentlemen and The Swamp Thing. Alan Moore is a strange fellow, he likes to write weird sh*t.
#9 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gylan Thomas: Boobs yes, that comic is full of those. Part and parcel with it being a cape and sword story with a manly hero battling a corrupt cardinal while scoring with busty wenches.  No genitals , except maybe in one scene. Really, compared to other European comics, it's pretty tame on that end.
 
European (especially French and Belgian) don't have the same measuring stick as the U.S on what is acceptable to be shown at a different age groups.
#10 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Rabbit Tots:  I agree, but I haven't found anything by him I didn't like so far. Both the league and Swamp thing were fun in my opinion (though I prefer Swamp thing amongst the two).
#11 Edited by Donovan Montgomery (5464 posts) - - Show Bio

Do Beno (and similar comics), Tintin, and Asterix count? 
I love those stories =D 
 
 
 
...Hmmmm, I guess you would call those "British"...idk....=^\
#12 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Donovan Montgomery: sure, those are fun :). why wouldn't they count?
#13 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5464 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach:
Eh, wasn't sure if you were just using main-land Europe or including the Island as well.  I just started getting my girls into Tintin and Asterix, when ever I see a video at the library or renal I grab them  =D 
My Mam-gu (pronounced mam-ge [think I spelt it right, lol] Welsh for grandmother) used to have Beno's shipped from home for us to read, love those guys.
#14 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Donovan Montgomery:  I've loved Asterix since I was a kid in grade school, especially the early stories. Series went downhill after the writer died and the artist was left alone with the stories thought.
#15 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5464 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach:

I thought I saw a difference there.   
BTW  I would be intressted to read up on some other European comics :)
#16 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Donovan Montgomery: As I've stated above I plan on doing a few reviews of stuff I've read to try and get a few people interested :)
#17 Posted by ComicMan24 (147115 posts) - - Show Bio

Asterix and Tintin. I love those comics.
#18 Posted by Nerx (15087 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach: Hell yeah 
 
-Tintin
-Lucky Luke
-Asterix
#19 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5464 posts) - - Show Bio

ooyeeaaa, Lucky Luke :] 
#20 Edited by Yumulu (762 posts) - - Show Bio
@aztek the lost said:

" @Crom-Cruach: well I do know about Marvel reprinting some comics from Soleil but what I think of more with European comics I want to read, 2000AD always comes to mind...but yes, if you want to spark interest go for it, I've always tried to do that with Vertigo and little by little I feel I'm succeeding so as the population here grows I think you'll find more interested individuals "

Indead you got me into some great series thank Aztek.
 
@Donovan Montgomery:
Tintin is from Belgium & Axterix from France... so I don't really see why they would feel British ^^
 
 
 

For good European comics I must admit that I mostly know French ones being from Québec like Crom they are easy to find here, way easier than to find a good comic book store.
 
Anything by Enki Bilal is a big yes in my book, most of is books have been translated in English and he should be relatively easy to find.  Nikopol Trilogy is one of his most know work. Hell my avatar is from there I just love the artwork. - Adults, it might be hard to follow for someone too young and may contain mature subject-nudity-violence- weird aliens shaped like Egyptians deities...
 
I started to had Philémon on the site but I encountered some problem with my upload so it not complete yet, it a surrealist story that ran in the 70-80's where you follow the adventures of Philémon into the different islands that form the world Atlantique (Atlantic), check on a globe you'll see they are there ^^. But I am a little doubtful if this as been translated in English. - Recommended all age really but a younger reader might not understand all the subtleties.
 
SODA is one of the great number of comics that came from the Spirou magazine, well the author Tome did write some Spirou & Fantasio in the 90's; it follow David Solomon, a cop that disguise himself in a priest in front of his mother to not trouble her weak heart. Kind of an action packed series that contain something around 15 volumes. Again I am not sure if this is translated in English. -Recommended teenagers I believe haven't really read any of it since those day anyway.
 
Oh I found something from the pages of Spirou that has been translated into English for sure, Les Tuniques Bleues or The Bluecoats got 3 volumes out in English one even came out this year. It a comedy about two soldiers during the American Civil War.
 
 
Well it been some time I have read any europeen comics exept the first two I mentionned, so I am gonna open some dusty box and get back to ya all.
 




#21 Posted by ComicMan24 (147115 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yumulu:
yeah, Spirou & Fantasio. I had forgotten about that.
#22 Posted by Aronmorales (9644 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure that I haven't gotten my American mitts on anything European, and it sucks, I really wanna see what they've got.

#23 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5464 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yumulu:
True on Tintin and Asterix, I was thinking more the Beno's when i said that :\ 
#24 Posted by Yumulu (762 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh I just saw my copy of Persepolis this should have been transated in English and is not that old so it should not be that hard to find.

#25 Posted by RedRyan (123 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach:
I'm reading the Requiem Vampire Knight booksby Pat Mills and Olivier Ledroit at the minute.
#26 Posted by RavenDark (792 posts) - - Show Bio

Nathan Never born and raised....At the beginning it was the only comic I bought and it was GOOD! 
By  Sergio Bonelli....Still think it is one of the best comics in the world....











#27 Posted by Gylan Thomas (2727 posts) - - Show Bio
@Donovan Montgomery said:
" Do Beno (and similar comics), Tintin, and Asterix count? I love those stories =D    ...Hmmmm, I guess you would call those "British"...idk....=^\ "
Never liked the Beano myself.
Prefer Asterix over Tintin but I seem to be in the minority. Those two are Belgian and French though, not British.
 
@Rabbit Tots said:
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I've read the The League of Extrodinary Gentlemen and The Swamp Thing. Alan Moore is a strange fellow, he likes to write weird sh*t. "

British writer, American comics :)
 
@Crom-Cruach said:
" @Gylan Thomas: Boobs yes, that comic is full of those. Part and parcel with it being a cape and sword story with a manly hero battling a corrupt cardinal while scoring with busty wenches.  No genitals , except maybe in one scene. Really, compared to other European comics, it's pretty tame on that end.  European (especially French and Belgian) don't have the same measuring stick as the U.S on what is acceptable to be shown at a different age groups. "

Always struck me as odd that violence is so accepted but a little nudity is still so very taboo.
#28 Posted by Gylan Thomas (2727 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach said:
" @Donovan Montgomery:  I've loved Asterix since I was a kid in grade school, especially the early stories. Series went downhill after the writer died and the artist was left alone with the stories thought. "
I actually kinda prefered the later stuff. 
Art had really come on too.
Not read the most recent one however.
#29 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Yumulu:  I haven't read Bilal yet, time and budget constrains. But everything else you mentioned I have though. Soda particularly I found interesting thought I always found the art strange compared with the material. 
@RedRyan: Never read that one I must say, heard it's pretty hardcore. Always say I'm going to try it out but I always end up grabbing something else first.
@RavenDark: Yes, I agree that comic was good.
 
Alright guys, I will have my first review up soon in another thread.
#30 Posted by Precise (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

I read Storm and the Trigan Empire. Some of my favourite comics, i have the whole collection =)

#31 Posted by RedRyan (123 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach:

 

The art by Ledroit is amazing.American comics tend to give most attention to the figures while European comics give more attention to the enviroments and the level of detail is incredible.The story by Pat Mills is very close to his work on stuff like Nemisis the Warlock for 2000AD.
#32 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@RedRyan: Totally agree that Requiem Vampire Knight has awesome art. I haven't read the series, but I've seen a lot of covers and scans. Weird, alien and alluring at the same time.
#33 Posted by RedRyan (123 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach:

 
 
Should give a plug to these guys as well.Comic called Church of Hell from Belfast based publisher Berserker.Not really my thing to be honest,it reminded me of Hellblazer with lots of gore but it's still well produced with nice art and they have lots of talented people working for them like Alan Grant,Simon Bisley and Glen Fabry.They do a range of horror oriented titles so if thats what you like I can reccomend them.
#34 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@RedRyan:  I agree, they are good if you like the genre.
#35 Posted by Chaos Prime (10857 posts) - - Show Bio

Many moons ago used to buy 2000 AD had a great character in the Rogue Trooper.

#36 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Chaos Prime:2000Ad now that takes me back, I haven't looked at their stuff for years.
 
I posted a review of a French comic, it should be about 1 or 2 pages back by now.
#37 Posted by Yumulu (762 posts) - - Show Bio
Blacksad is a pretty fun read about a Cat detective in a antrophomorphic (sp?) anime world it came out in english last month by Dark Horse so it should not be that hard to find
#38 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

 Loved Blacksad, I have every story published so far. My favorite was the Arctic Power with the racist polar animals.  
 
God... that fox deserved to die and he did.

#39 Posted by Yumulu (762 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach:  Yup that Arctic Power was my favorite too how many book have been published n Blacksad I've only read 3
#40 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

3 up until know.
 
-The first one where he goes against that lizard CEO who murdered his ex
-the one with the white supremacists
-the last one with his old professor whom we found out was a former nazi scientist.

#41 Posted by gambit987 (1275 posts) - - Show Bio

I live in belgium so there are a lot of dutch comics

#42 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

what series have you been reading?

#43 Posted by gambit987 (1275 posts) - - Show Bio

well there are comics in here that is callled samurai (don't neet information on that I guess) thorgal (never actually read it), and there are these ugly drawen comics like jommeke, and kuifje thats dutch for tin tin that are just some examples

#44 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

Right, but specifically, what have you been reading recently?

#45 Posted by gambit987 (1275 posts) - - Show Bio

not so verry much i used to read Jommeke when i was a child, recently I read a samurai comic but mostly i read American comics

#46 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah well...

#47 Edited by Michiel76 (184 posts) - - Show Bio

 Hi everyone.
 
Not that i wanted to dig up an old post, but i was really wondering about this myself when i found this thread allready existed.
So my 2 cents are:    (i am for some comics translating the titels into english myself since i dont know if they have been released in the usa at all)
Storm
Trigië
Rogon the red wolf
Murena (really loved this one, about the roman empire)
Eagles of rome
Douwe Dabbert (can't really translate, because its a name) 
Druuna ( XXX comic, but with incredible art) 
The mercenary
Thorgal
 
What i love about european comics is that they seem far more mature sometimes. Sex is a lot more featured. Don't be surprised if you suddenly find yourself reading about some sexual act in what is normally not seen as a XXX comic.
For instance Murena is such a comic. Also i just love the hyperrealistic art by Don Lawrence in Storm or Trigië, or in the Mercenary by Segrelles.
Even though Druuna is a very hardcore porn comic, the art by Serpieri is very realistic and amazing but should not be read by non adults. ( i would love to see him do a Wonder Woman comic, without the porn of course)
Its like Alex Ross is drawing every comic from beginning to end instead of just covers.
 
I love the format as well, normally they cost a lot more, but most of the time you get a somewhat finished story in one book, so you don't have to wait a couple of months before you have the whole story together like in usa comics.
On the other hand, european comics are released a lot less frequent than american comics. Sometimes they are years apart.
 
Well let i just finish by saying you are really missing out on some great stuff if you don't read european comics. Of course the language barrier can be a great hindrance to people. But if you can get your hands on some translated copies do not hesitate.
(and i know that some fans do their own translations, but now i am wandering into a grey area thats not entirely legal) 

#48 Posted by Precise (22886 posts) - - Show Bio
@Michiel76: Storm and Trigië (Trigan Empire in English =)) are my favourite comics as well, I have the whole collection =)
#49 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Michiel76:  Eagles of Rome is a series I have started reading but have so far only read the first issue. It is very good, but it's by the same guy who made "The Scorpion' series, whom is very awesome. I've read every issue so far.
#50 Posted by Precise (22886 posts) - - Show Bio
@Crom-Cruach:  i'd recommend this series if you want to read a good European comic =)