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#1 Posted by Superlightning123 (1054 posts) - - Show Bio

in the next 50 years or so, will goku be as iconic as supes?

#2 Posted by dagmar_merrill (6794 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

#3 Posted by JetiiMitra (8194 posts) - - Show Bio

I highly doubt it but nothing's impossible.

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#4 Edited by youknowwhattodo (895 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no way that will happen unless there are new stories about him.

#5 Edited by Jayc1324 (9668 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. Most people don't even know who he is

#6 Posted by KingWillie (118 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe in Japan? Doubt it though.

#7 Edited by RogueShadow (10016 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is more popular than Goku and always will be.

#8 Posted by Saint_Wildcard (9192 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman was the first major superhero. He is the grand daddy of superheroes. Superman's death was newsworthy, Goku's not so much.

#9 Posted by SonOfHellstorm (230 posts) - - Show Bio

Who is Goku?

#10 Posted by Xwraith (15494 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope not.

#11 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20185 posts) - - Show Bio

No

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#12 Posted by hart7668 (2294 posts) - - Show Bio

Doubtful. He may grow in iconicism but won't ever eclipse the big S

#13 Posted by Wolverine08 (38833 posts) - - Show Bio

@hart7668 said:

Doubtful. He may grow in iconicism but won't ever eclipse the big S

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#14 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by LaserLambert (635 posts) - - Show Bio

It's hilarious when people Talk about Goku like there is still ongoing material from which to draw from. a movie and a crappy video game every once and a while isn't enough to make him grow in popularity.

The question is in 50 years will people know who he is?

#16 Posted by Binski (645 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless Japan takes over the world...so no.

#17 Edited by Fallschirmjager (15260 posts) - - Show Bio

@binski said:

Unless Japan takes over the world...so no.

Google has too much of a head start for that to happen.

Besides, I believe One Piece is the most popular manga in Japan...by a long shot iirc. It just never gained as much over seas.

#18 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe. Many things change with time, and it's difficult to know where things could be headed.

#19 Posted by loplopool (495 posts) - - Show Bio

Dragon ball z from the recent success from movies have been given the green light to now continue dragon all z and have booked an extra 300 episodes

#20 Posted by Mediocregeist (681 posts) - - Show Bio

@loplopool said:

Dragon ball z from the recent success from movies have been given the green light to now continue dragon all z and have booked an extra 300 episodes

Doesn't mean Goku is anywhere near as iconic as Superman.

#21 Posted by Experio (14300 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

#22 Posted by fil123 (471 posts) - - Show Bio

lmao if i ask 1000 people on the streets 999 will know superman. maybe 200 will know who goku is

#23 Posted by LyraFay (2474 posts) - - Show Bio

Is he iconic in his native Japan because that should matter.

#24 Posted by Dratini1331 (6987 posts) - - Show Bio

@mitran said:

I highly doubt it but nothing's impossible.

#25 Posted by loplopool (495 posts) - - Show Bio

@mediocregeist: didn't say it did just someone said all he was in is games and honestley in 50 years the east will be way more populated and they would favour holy over superman but nostalgically it will always be superman

#26 Posted by Transformers1024 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

Highly doubt it. Maybe in Japan if they throw out some new/quality stories about him. But comic book characters will always be more iconic than any anime out there, especially in mainstream audiences.

#27 Posted by Immortal777 (6940 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope

When Superman died people in the real world had funerals for him.

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#28 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (10362 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope

When Superman died people in the real world had funerals for him.

Wow...that's. Something.

#29 Edited by Blade_R (1470 posts) - - Show Bio

In America? Probably not, but ill always like Goku better.

#30 Posted by MetalJimmor (940 posts) - - Show Bio

If Goku gets a new manga every few years and DC stops making Superman stories for the next 50 years then sure, Goku could become more iconic than Superman.

Incredibly unlikely though.

#31 Posted by Outside_85 (8147 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku isn't iconic to begin with, so it's rather impossible for him to be that in 50 years unless he gets a complete reinvention in the meantime.

#32 Edited by RogueShadow (10016 posts) - - Show Bio

@immortal777 said:

Nope

When Superman died people in the real world had funerals for him.

Wow...that's. Something.

Similar thing happened with Sherlock Holmes, men and women across Britain wore black hats and dressed in black to mourn him.

I doubt that would happen for Goku.

#33 Posted by VoodooPenguin (974 posts) - - Show Bio

It's hilarious when people Talk about Goku like there is still ongoing material from which to draw from. a movie and a crappy video game every once and a while isn't enough to make him grow in popularity.

The question is in 50 years will people know who he is?

This but in a less pissy way than how he said in it.

#34 Posted by IheartZombies92 (2200 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku isn't iconic to begin with, so it's rather impossible for him to be that in 50 years unless he gets a complete reinvention in the meantime.

#35 Edited by JakeN7 (10894 posts) - - Show Bio

I think a lot of people are underestimating Goku's widespread popularity, however he could not even touch Superman. Superman is so permeated in American pop culture that his name is referenced in a common expression. I don't think anyone's ever going to say, "what do you think you're doing? You're not Goku!" or the theme song for Scrubs is going to change to "I'm no Goku."

#36 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5512 posts) - - Show Bio

Bon qui qui has spoken!

#37 Edited by kyrees (4550 posts) - - Show Bio

no, it won't happen

#38 Edited by HumanRocket (7523 posts) - - Show Bio

That new DBZ Kai show isn't doing him any favors. Mr. Popo Blue? seriously go die DBZ Kai.

#39 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

Iconic is a weasel word. What exactly are these characters icons of?

I'll bet there are lots of big emotional spiels about what these characters represent. I'll also bet that you'll get no strong concensus from said statements.

At the end of the day money talks and bullshit walks. Let's talk revenue streams, vis a vis Superman vs. DBZ.

#40 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

Statistics are hard to come by in terms of real cash values for the brands but DB has sold 230 million units of the manga worldwide.

#41 Edited by kyrees (4550 posts) - - Show Bio

@godtriggerhulk: 230 million units of manga would translate to what then ? it's impressive but i don't see the point of it if there's no interpretable equivalence to it

#42 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

@kyrees:

If we could find the number of comics shipped by Superman over the years then we could compare the two. Though I won't hold my breath for that info.

#43 Posted by Dratini1331 (6987 posts) - - Show Bio

@thatguywithheadphones said:

@immortal777 said:

Nope

When Superman died people in the real world had funerals for him.

Wow...that's. Something.

Similar thing happened with Sherlock Holmes, men and women across Britain wore black hats and dressed in black to mourn him.

I doubt that would happen for Goku.

To be fair, Goku dies pretty often. They may as well be getting hole punch cards, every 10 visits they get a free cut in line or something. Death means nothing in DBZ honestly, they have a freaking respawn timer...

#44 Posted by Outside_85 (8147 posts) - - Show Bio

While I cant say if Goku has something similar in Japan, I seem to remember this being a fairly popular tune when it came out. (Only adding to show how deep the idea of Superman has permeated western pop-culture)

#45 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16128 posts) - - Show Bio
#46 Posted by reaverlation (14089 posts) - - Show Bio

@dratini1331 said:

To be fair, Goku dies pretty often.

lol.

Actually Goku has died twice.Krillen has died 4 freaking times,Piccolo 3 times,Vegeta twice,etc. but yes dying is common in DBZ lol

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#47 Edited by OfficialRikudouSennin (631 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku been iconic

#48 Posted by Saint_Wildcard (9192 posts) - - Show Bio

While I cant say if Goku has something similar in Japan, I seem to remember this being a fairly popular tune when it came out. (Only adding to show how deep the idea of Superman has permeated western pop-culture)

So many songs dedicated to Superman.

#49 Posted by Chibi_cute (4478 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is iconic in the west.. but in southeast asia and japan.. goku but its different because there are tons of iconic anime characters too.

#50 Posted by Gambit474 (1460 posts) - - Show Bio

@immortal777 said:

Nope

When Superman died people in the real world had funerals for him.

Wow...that's. Something.

Well it was also on CNN(or whatever they call themselves now)when Captain America "died" too. As for Goku being as iconic..No. There is no "maybe" or "could be" about it..Comics put out just far more in continuity for Superman compared to what manga does for Goku. Not only that but Superman is pretty much known worldwide and even if they didn't know his name they'd still know who he was if they saw him. The same just can't be said about Goku because he's mostly prominent in Japan. Guys like Superman and Batman are just mega stars when it comes to being icons.