5 Smartest Villians?

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#1  Edited By MercenaryX

Mine are:


1.The Joker
2.Deadpool
3.Lex Luthor
4.Dr.Doom
5.Mr. Sinister
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#2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker especially?

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#3  Edited By WARLOCK2792
Vance Astro said:
How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker especially?
Maybe it's in random order?
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#4  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

1.Brainiac

2.The Grandmaster
3.Lord Ultron
4.Dr.Doom
5.Thanos

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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
White Mage said:
Vance Astro said: How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker especially? Maybe it's in random order? [more]
Even still Deadpool shouldn't even be on the list.
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#6  Edited By Dark King
Vance Astro said:
1.Brainiac2.The Grandmaster3.Lord Ultron4.Dr.Doom5.Thanos
*thumbs up
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#7  Edited By WARLOCK2792
Vance Astro said:
White Mage said: Vance Astro said: How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker especially? Maybe it's ... [more]
No argument there.
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#8  Edited By MercenaryX
Vance Astro said:
How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker especially?
It's a thing called random.
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#9  Edited By MercenaryX
Vance Astro said:
White Mage said: Vance Astro said: How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker especially? Maybe it's ... [more]
So breaking the 4th wall doesn't count as smart?
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#10  Edited By stupaman

1. Luthor

2. Doctor Doom
3. Ultron
4. Sinister 
. Joker
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#11  Edited By WARLOCK2792
MercenaryX said:
Vance Astro said: White Mage said: Vance Astro said: How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker ... [more]
NOPE.  If that were the case, then he and She-Hulk would be unstoppable, and they aren't.
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MercenaryX said:
Vance Astro said: White Mage said: Vance Astro said: How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool and Joker ... [more]
No.
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#13  Edited By Icarusflies  Moderator
In no particular order:

Calculator
Brainiac
Prometheus
Deathstroke
Thinker
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#14  Edited By MercenaryX
Vance Astro said:
MercenaryX said: Vance Astro said: White Mage said: Vance Astro said: How is the Joker,Deadpool and Lex..smarter than Doom? Deadpool ... [more]
Well, he might have to be replaced. Joker will stay of course.
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#15  Edited By Silver Shinobi

Doom
Mandarin
Ultron
Braniac
Thanos

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#16  Edited By geraldthesloth

Ill do 2 lists.

DC
Brainiac
Sivana
Gorilla Grodd
Lex Luthor
Darkseid

I feel like im missing someone rediculously important but I can't think of who


Marvel
Kang
Doom
Thanos
MODOK
Magneto

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#17  Edited By Lost_Rellik

1. Brainiac
2. Gorilla Grodd
3. Dr. Victor Von Doom
4. Lex Luthor
5. The Riddler (The guy has to have some smarts to come up with those puzzles.)

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#18  Edited By Dr. ? man

1. Dr. Doom
2. Brainiac
3. Kang the Conqueror
4. Ultron
5. Thanos

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#19  Edited By MercenaryX

Everyone on here has great lists.

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#20  Edited By Zoom

Sivana
Thomas Oscar Morrow
Abra Kadabra
Kang the Conqueror
Tharok

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#21  Edited By MercenaryX

Nice

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#22  Edited By AgentOrange

Wild storm univerese , Tao,
DC univerese, Lex Luther
DC univerese , Brainiac
Marvel univerese, Doctor Doom,
Marvel universe, Thanos


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#23  Edited By Mortein

Thanos
Brainiac
Dr Doom
Lex
Joker

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#24  Edited By Wael Hero X

1- The Joker
2- Riddler
3- Doom
4- Brainiac
5- Lex

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#25  Edited By John_Feaster

   Well...that all depends. If we mean Smartest as in "Those who come up with the best and/or most effective plans" as opposed to just IQ and inventive genius...

   Baron Helmut Zemo 
   The Red Skull
   Doctor Doom
   Doctor Sivana
   Lex Luthor

   The above have all had long range or well concieved plans work out at one time or another, and usually usually prepare for many eventualities. They are hard to trap effectivly either because they have so many escape routes or have powers that they use in clever ways.

   Note : A bad writer (Bendis, Reed and many others) can and have reduced even the greatest villains to the level of comic opera boob. This list can't be held accountable if someone decides to screw the villain for the sake of the plot.

  

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#26  Edited By Exile-616

Thanos
Brainiac
Prometheus
Calculator
Ultra-Humanite

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#27  Edited By loganreme

Dr Doom
Mr Sinister
Brainiac
Lex Luthor
Lobo (don't forget people that he has a genuis level intellect when it comes to war and destruction)

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#28  Edited By John_Feaster
Exile-616 said:
ThanosBrainiacPrometheusCalculatorUltra-Humanite

    I'd argue against some of these (Thanos? Prometheus?)...but I can't believe I forgot the Calculator! An old school villain who's finally gotten smart and started to play the game like he had a brain ;>)
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#29  Edited By Zoom

Calculator isn't that smart.

He's just good with info and rubix cubes.

You ever see him invent anything amazing?  Figure out who the Oracle is when she's sitting right in front of his face?  He's not even in the top 5 smartest villains from DC's present, much less all villains from all companies.

I'm surprised so few people picked Kang and Tharok.  Those guys are not only geniuses, they're considered geniuses hundreds of years into the future.

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#30  Edited By Vindellavon

Emma Frost, before joining the X-Men.

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#31  Edited By Meteorite
  1. Doctor Doom
  2. Thanos
  3. Magneto
  4. Kang
  5. Red Skull
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#32  Edited By Icarusflies  Moderator
Zoom said:
Calculator isn't that smart.He's just good with info and rubix cubes.You ever see him invent anything amazing?  Figure out who ... [more]
The Calculator set up a whole internet system that was almost undetectable. He rewired Kilg%re in such a way to coordinate Kilg%re's systems with his body, kept much of the Secret Society of Super Villains in check, as well as monitoring Alex Luthor without him noticing? Need more?
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#33  Edited By iLLituracy

High Evoltionary
Lex Luthor
Dr. Doom
Mr. Sinister
Thanos

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#34  Edited By John_Feaster
Zoom said:
Calculator isn't that smart.He's just good with info and rubix cubes.You ever see him invent anything amazing?  Figure out who ... [more]

   I don't know enough about Tharok, but I can tell you exactly why I considered Kang, then cast him on the rubbish heap. Kang is a great villain, but he's often been dipicted as just one of an infinite number of Kangs. They all flail and rage against the Avengers, in a way that seems comical and futile. Over and over again they attack - lose (or die) - and then start plotting again, with little effect. Doom is DOOM, and his actions aren't so difuse as Kangs. You can never be certain if your fighting the same Kang you fought before, but even if it's just a Doombot your battling...you can be sure that Doom sent it after you, and did so with a reason.

   Kang was a better villain before they spread him so thin, but even if we compare him to Doom...Kang has few victories in his ledger, and Doom always seems to keep working towards a central plan. Doom challenged the Beyonder, and though that failed...it was with an audacity that inspires admiration. Doom rescued his mothers soul from Mephistos Hell. Doom struggles and plots eternaly to defeat Richards and the Fantastic Four. Has he done so? No...but he's come withing smelling distance of it...
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#35  Edited By MercenaryX

I'll replace Deadpool with Brainiac

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#36  Edited By Zoom
Icarusflies said:
Zoom said: Calculator isn't that smart.He's just good with info and rubix cubes.You ever see him invent anything amazing?  Figure ... [more]
When did Calculator rewire Kilg%re?

I don't think Calculator was doing such a good job of monitoring Alex Luthor because he damn near destroyed the universe and Calculator didn't do a dang thing to stop it.
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#37  Edited By Icarusflies  Moderator
Zoom said:
Icarusflies said: Zoom said: Calculator isn't that smart.He's just good with info and rubix cubes.You ever see him invent anything ... [more]
He rewired Kilg%re in a recent arc of Birds of Prey. Remember that he was working with Alex Luthor, so he knew what Luthor was trying to accomplish. Calculator was hoping for a position of power in the new world order caused by Alex Luthor. (See Villains United Special, which was collected in the Infinite Crisis Companion)
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#38  Edited By Zoom

Really?  I could have sworn he was blissfully unaware throughout the whole thing.  I'll have to reread that.

And I need to pick up that birds of prey arc.  I like Killg%re. :-)

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#39  Edited By Valkaad

In no particular order. I cannot really include anyone like Joker/Doom/Luthor, because they do not have superhuman intellect.
1. Possessor (5 billion years old and has done nothing but gain knowledge)
2. Thanos
3. Brainiac.
4. The Leader (superhuman intelligence puts him above dooms human genius intellect)
5. Grandmaster 

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#40  Edited By Icarusflies  Moderator
Zoom said:
Really?  I could have sworn he was blissfully unaware throughout the whole thing.  I'll have to reread that.And I need ... [more]
It was heavily implied that he did indeed know what was going on. He said something along the lines of: "If this succeeds I will be at the right hand of a god"
The Killg%re arc would be the last arc of Birds of Prey before it was cancelled.
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Dr.Doom
Lex Lurther
Brainiac
Mysterio(Sommeone has got to be smart to make really cool illusions)
The Leader
Clue Master

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#42  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000

brainiac
darkseid
thanos
doom
lex luther

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#43  Edited By martinhom123

1 Dr.Doom
2 Dr.Doom
3 Dr.Doom
4 Dr.Doom
5 Dr.Doom

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#44  Edited By Zoom

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Starman, who isn't a scientist of any sort and didn't even make As in elementrary school can correct equations dealing with superstring, dark matter and hyperspace because he learned about it in THIRD GRADE.  Third graders 1000 years in the future are smarter than the "third smartest man" on the planet.  Did I mention Starman is totally nuts and is still much smarter than Mr Terrific?

Granted, Mr Terrific isn't even close to the third smartest man on the planet even if you rule out time travelers, aliens, robots, etc.  Still, nobody from the 20th century save T O Morrow and perhaps Sivana is any kind of match for super scientists from the 30th century, much less ones from the 64th.
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#45  Edited By box turtle

   5.  Red Skull--he organized the attack that killed Captain America, and he organized Hydra, and he invented lethal poison gases.  
   4.  Lex Luthor--He has no powers yet he finds a way to kick Superman's butt.
   3.  Doctor Doom--I mean, he's just a genius in every sense of the word. 
   2.  Reed Richards--His inventions started the entire era of super heroes.  Tell me thats not genius. 
   1.  Kingpin--his criminal empire.  The ability to be powerless yet still pound Punisher, Spiderman, and Daredevil.  He has found a way to get the following people to help him: Daredevil, Bullseye, Elektra, Typhoid Mary, and infamously idependent Deadpool. 

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#46  Edited By geraldthesloth
Zoom said:
Starman, who isn't a scientist of any sort and didn't even make As in elementrary school can correct equations dealing with ... [more]
But he isn't a villain..and Starman is so insane it's awesome.
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#47  Edited By The_Martian

How is the Joker even making people's list?

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#48  Edited By geraldthesloth
The_Martian said:
How is the Joker even making people's list?
because he was soo cool in the dark knight!
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#49  Edited By The_Martian

And was clearly a genius during it:P

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#50  Edited By Zoom
geraldthesloth said:
Zoom said: Starman, who isn't a scientist of any sort and didn't even make As in elementrary school can correct equations ... [more]
Well of course. :D

But my point is that even a moderately bright third grader from the 30th century (or is it 31st now?) is much much smarter than the "third smartest man" from our time.

TOMorrow can still make lists because he sees the future but just about anybody else from the present shouldn't be making these lists.