How Spider-Man 4 should go.....

Topic started by sora_thekey on June 1, 2009. Last post by sora_thekey 2 weeks ago.
Post by sora_thekey (1,818 posts) See mini bio

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This a plot idea I just came up with for Spider-Man 4

Tell me what you think!


Spider-Man is trying to patch things up with MJ. Gwen is trying to get Peters atention but ends up creating a strong friendship with both MJ and Peter

Meanwhile Doctor connors is trying to recreate his arm..... He notices that part of the symbiote expands in a way his cells could just like reptiles.... using his investigation on reptiles and the discoveries found in the sybiote (remember Connor has a piece). By combining the two he injects himself creting himself the Lizard an uncontrollable creature seeking out destruction......

Casually the newfound friends MJ, and Gwen go to the university to pick up a book Gwen forgot they enter Conors class and find the Lizard trying to kill the... During the screaming and running away the vial holding the Symbiote falls to the ground and breaks. MJ discreatly calls Peter in search for Spider-Man (this could be while she is hiding under the desk or something) Spider-Man arrives to save the day but the Lizard excapes.... During the fight Spider-Man gets a huge cut from one of the claws of the Lizard on his back....and the Symbiote is atracted by the Spider's blood......

Spider-Man leaves and Gwen and MJ are safe but back at home while Peter is cleaning his wound leaving a lot of blood lying around.... The Symbiote merges with the blood (making it Red FYI I'm taking a lot from Ultimate Spider-Man). Then on the news there is a new Serial Killer in town named Cletus Kasady so Spider-Man is on the job..... The now red symbiote with no host is weakened but sticks to Parker without his knowledge. Spider-Man Catches the Serial Killer and throws him in jail..... Kassady having this newfound hatred for Spider-Man merges with the Sybiote to make Carnge and kills his way out of jail.....

The Lizard and Spider-Man have a couple of more rounds before Spider-Man realizes his teacher is actually the Lizard.....

During class Gwen and Peter get a new substitute teacher: Professor Miles Warren

Anyways..... Petrer figures out a way to take the Connor out of the Lizard and cures him.... The new Professor falls for the Blond in his class and tries to get Connor to leave the class permanenly so he could keep teaching the class Warren kidnaps Connor so he wont interfier in what Warren thinks is true love......

MJ and Peter's relationship is growing once again.....

Felicia Hardy a new girl in school keeps bumping into Peter..... At the same time a new vigilante comes into town: Black Cat....

EDITED: Spider-Man and Black Cat finally meet and Spidey questions Black Cat's alliance.... She doesn't answer and says that if Spider-Man catches her then she will answer the question..... The play taq for a while and then she says that she is only "complicated"

Black Cat on her crime spree finds a man who seems familiar.... Felicia Hardy's science teacher kidnapped by a crazy man...... She saves him making Spider-Man a little premiscous about if Black Cat is good or Bad (Black Cat flirts with the Spider a little and disappears into the night)

Carnage and Spider-Man fight it up a bit Carnage revealing himself to the world... Carnage being a name J. Jameson comes up with in the Bugle!!!

Spider-Man figures out the carnage is the serial killer..... Peter realizing that he is no match for this new villan seeks help from Connors and he discovers sonic weaponry is the way to go.... meanwhile they bust heads once more and the Police surround the area where they fight... (where? Who knows but its big)

Gwen is out having lunch with her dad and Capt Stacy gets a call to go there .. Gwen goes with him...

MJ is at Aunt May's house having some pie and see the whole comotion on television.....

They have a huge ending battle and during the battle Carnage is on the verge of pumuling Spider-Man.....
During this MJ whispers "No, Peter" and there's areaction to this by Aunt May (So now she know or thinks she knows who Spider-Man is)
Profesor Connors arrives with his sonic weaponry but Captain Stacy doesn't allow him to go through........Connors fight hims over it and then both of them are caught in the battlefield......
Carnage only seeking destruction heads first for Connors and Spider-Man swings on over and sves him... leaving Stacy out there alone....
Resentlesly Carnage kills Captain Stacy just when Spider-Man is abut to save him..... Spider-Man on an adrenaline rush he starts hitting Carnage resntlesly... Gwen goes into the battle field and cries over her father's death. Connors the uses the sionic weaponry and "destroys" the creature....

The ending scene is a lot like the ending from the first movie.... At Captain Stacy's funeral Peter goes over and hugs the pale Gwen..... Gwen the mentions her hatred for Spider-Man because he could've saved her father but he didn't he left him alone there to die.......

EDITED: After the funeral Peter and MJ walk alone through central park and MJ mentions the propsal he had planned (Spider-man 3) and mentions that athough they  might not be ready for that they could start things over to where they left off......  Peter walks MJ home... At her doorstep he kisses her and wispers to her  "I love you"
Then he turns around about to leave.... MJ then stops him and invites him in.......

The scene ends with a mashed up Cassady on the ground recreating himself as Carnage.........
Black Cat watches over this

EDITED: Miles Warren then walks through his apartment and enters a room where he has a shrine for Gwen Stacy...... He talks to a huge picture of her and says: "we will be together" then the camera zooms into his eyes and the effect turns green (jackal-wise) the screen turns black and you can hear him laughing (setting up the enviornment for Spider-Man 5)


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This is Awesome!!! I would so see this movie!!! Good Job you should send this to Sam Rami!


Post by sora_thekey (1,818 posts) See mini bio

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War Killer said:
This is Awesome!!! I would so see this movie!!! Good Job you should send this to Sam Rami!

Just give me his phone number or e-mail and I will.....


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sora_thekey said:
War Killer said: This is Awesome!!! I would so see this movie!!! Good Job you should send this to Sam ... [more]
I would if I had it


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War Killer said:
sora_thekey said: War Killer said: This is Awesome!!! I would so see this movie!!! Good Job you should send this ... [more]

So then anybody out there have his contact number I would like to talk to him.......

Sam Raimi if you can read this pleas contact me!!!!
(my mind is going right now: "yeah right!")


Post by War Killer (7,854 posts) See mini bio

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If he calls, tell me


Post by sora_thekey (1,818 posts) See mini bio

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War Killer said:
If he calls, tell me

I will.... I'll tell him you said hi!


Post by War Killer (7,854 posts) See mini bio

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Still good, alot of villains, I'm not sure about the end with Miles Warren though, he dosen't play a big role in the story, the ending could go diffrent, but still Great


Post by sora_thekey (1,818 posts) See mini bio

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War Killer said:
Still good, alot of villains, I'm not sure about the end with Miles Warren though, he dosen't play a big ... [more]

I put Miles Warren there so it could prepare for a clone saga and also well he plays an important part of Gwen Stacy's story....


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sora_thekey said:
War Killer said: Still good, alot of villains, I'm not sure about the end with Miles Warren though, he dosen't ... [more]
I can't say much on that (Wasen't a big fan of the Clone Saga) but what about MJ and Peter?


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War Killer said:
sora_thekey said: War Killer said: Still good, alot of villains, I'm not sure about the end with Miles Warren though, ... [more]

How about now? I edited a part of the ending!


Post by War Killer (7,854 posts) See mini bio

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sora_thekey said:
War Killer said: sora_thekey said: War Killer said: Still good, alot of villains, I'm not sure about the end with ... [more]
Peter's getting lucky...that's better, but the last part with Warren is just bugging me because no one would know way he was smiling for and people wpuld think it was a bad ending, maybe have him turn into the Jackle at the end/cliffhanger kinda of way that mite work


Post by TheSavageAssasin (1,569 posts) See mini bio

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Pretty good too many villians and would never watch the clone saga so get rid of please


Post by sora_thekey (1,818 posts) See mini bio

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War Killer said:
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How about now?
I don't want to make him the Jackal yet it would be too much

TheSavageAssasin said:
Pretty good too many villians and would never watch the clone saga so get rid of please [more]

Well it doesn't necesrally have to turn into a clone Saga just a Gwen clone......


Post by War Killer (7,854 posts) See mini bio

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sora_thekey said:
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Why Clones?


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War Killer said:
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I don't know..... I guess I'm the only one who likes the Clone Saga..... but it dosen't have to be that way.....

The Jackal also hired Punisher to kill Spider-Man because he blamed Spidey for Gwen's death......
Like in the Ultimate U he could date Aunt May to create drama.....
Also as a crazy person he is he could be a powerless obsesed bad guy......


Post by War Killer (7,854 posts) See mini bio

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sora_thekey said:
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 The Story can do in many diffrent ways, I wouldn't go into the clone thing, most people aren't into that, I would go into the other storyes, like having Peter and MJ getting married and having the Sinister Six, people would probably like that more then clones (I could be wrong though)


Post by sora_thekey (1,818 posts) See mini bio

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War Killer said:
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Should I do a Spider-Man 5 plot then?

That way I could try out Peter's and MJ wedding......
The Jackal's evil schemes.....
Probably the return of Carnage, and Black Cat...
Introduce some Sinister Six characters.......


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sora_thekey said:
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It's your plots, so I'd say do it the way you want, and like I said you can go in any direction with these plots, Spidey's got lots of story lines for you to use or use them as a springbored for you storys


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War Killer said:
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Yeah but give me ideas.... what should I NOT do!!!!


Post by Nahero (9,901 posts) See mini bio

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hey i heard that scorpion will be in the spiderman movie im not saying to rewrite it and put him in it just adding on

the story is really great and loved how you made the symbiote remains work with the birth of the lizard


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sora_thekey said:
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There are many storys you could do like...There are many storys about Black Cat to use and you could bring in some new villains like Electro, Scorpion, Rhino, or Vulture, you could also set up Venoms return with Scorpion (Mac Gargan) and you could also bring in Toxin (Son of Carnage)


Post by G'bandit (8,942 posts) See mini bio

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Not a bad read, but the lizard is a bigger character than that, he should be the main dish of the movie not Carnage.

This is practically Spider-man 3 all over. Venom was too much of a character to be just a second villain.

 Here is the same thing with the lizard and Carnage

You got two lead villains there, it just wouldn't work because it don't work together.

They sell you the lizard after so long just to get rid of him in the middle of the film? Imagine that! After 3 movies finally we see the lizard in the 4th and is just for a few minutes then just poof is gone for the rest of the movie. What?! 3 movies making cameos for nothing?!

No, it has to go for longer! One of the big deal about the Lizard is that he was dangerous as hell, but was also Peter's friend. Peter had to keep him alive but without getting himself eaten!

 I did like the idea that Connors learns about regeneration from the symbiotic piece and his research though, is very good. But Carnage needs to wait, he is another lead role just like Venom, it deserve more time.

Carnage is a full story and Lizard is another full story.




Post by sora_thekey (1,818 posts) See mini bio

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G'bandit said:
Not a bad read, but the lizard is a bigger character than that, he should be the main dish of ... [more]

I know the importance of the Lizard which is why I did soemething the rest of the movies didn't do..... I didn't kill off the villain

Meaning I left it open so he could come back........
By the way he only cameoed on two movies.......

Same with Carnage


Post by War Killer (7,854 posts) See mini bio

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sora_thekey said:
G'bandit said: Not a bad read, but the lizard is a bigger character than that, he should be the main ... [more]
Lol, yeah you really need to go to Holleywood and take over the Spider-Man movies. and that's the thing I don't get is they killed Doc Ock but left Sandman alive...WHAT THE CRAP!!!


Post by lonefang6x6 (320 posts) See mini bio

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Awesome!! If Sam Raimi could read this he would probably approve of this!


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lonefang6x6 said:
Awesome!! If Sam Raimi could read this he would probably approve of this!
That's what I said! It's a Great Story!


Post by MercenaryX (277 posts) See mini bio

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I like it, but I would change most of this.


Post by goosehorn (728 posts) See mini bio

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sora youd be a percect comic book writer over at marvel and i hear they hire just a bout anybody


Post by Calvin (1,724 posts) See mini bio

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Even tought I never read a Lizard story in the Amazing  or Ultimate Spider-man, I do think it's a good direction. It kind of feels like there's a lot of different characters, though, just like in the Spiderman 3. 

And way to many girlfriends!! xD  Did you realise you put the 3 more important love affairs in Peter's life? This way the last fight will be a catfight!! lol - JK! 

I just don't know the Carnage very well either, so I'm really not the best critic for the script. I would love to see the movie, though. 
Good stuff !!


This is what happen when you put all of Pete's girlfriends in on room!!!
This is what happen when you put all of Pete's girlfriends in on room!!!