Fan-Fiction Rant

#1 Posted by Joygirl (6126 posts) - 6 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

This is a little post I made for my blog (on which I may end up putting some of my fan-fics later on). Figured I might as well post the rant here as well. :D Blog can be found at http://stoicmaniac.squarespace.com

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So, I did say I'd be posting some short stories, and excerpts from longer stories. I will end up doing that shortly... but, first, I'd like to say a few things.

Now, I won't say I'm great. But a few people have read my stuff and they also mostly seem to really enjoy it, so I think I can say I'm decent. My work is exclusively fiction (because non-fiction is for ninnies), with a few fan-fics (yeah, I know, sue me).

I can hear it now -- "Fanfiction? Effin' fanfiction? What am I reading, is this a thirteen-year-old girl's blog? This is pathetic, I quit. In fact, I'm gonna go swallow a lubricated frisbee right this very second." (And if anyone gets that last reference I have an invisible cookie waiting for you.)

But hear me out! This is logic, good logic!

First, let's define fanfiction.

Fan fiction (alternatively referred to as fanfiction, fanfic, FF, or fic) is a broadly-defined term for fan labor regarding stories about characters or settings written by fans of the original work, rather than by the original creator.

That's what Wikipedia has to say about fanfiction, among other things.

Now consider comics -- y'know, Batman, Wolverine, etc. If any person other than Bob Kane or Stan Lee writes those characters (which, obviously, lots of other people do), then it is, by definition, fan-fiction. It's just professional fan-fiction, as they're being paid and acknowledged as writers for those characters.

This also stretches outside comics. What's your favorite show? I can guarantee you that more people than the show's original creator have written for it. People get jobs writing for properties that technically don't belong to them, and as long as they get paid for it, they have perfectly legitimate careers. Hell, even movie franchises get different writers. Think the same guy writes James Bond with each passing film?

So then. An amateur writer of an original setting or character may receive a margin of respect, depending solely on the quality of their work. They are not getting paid, but since their projects take place in a world of their own devising, they can be considered respectable and possibly talented individuals.

However, an amateur writer of a project outside their own realm of creation will generally be ridiculed (don't feel bad, I was in this party as well until I saw the light). Even if they are talented in the fields of wordplay and storyline, they will be chastised because the object of their talent just so happens to be Optimus Prime (hehe). But, if a comic or TV show comes out with someone writing Optimus Prime and making money for it, they may very well be hailed as a genius if they are good enough.

So, them's just my ideas on the subject of fan-fiction... I understand why the prejudice came about, as a lot of fan-fiction is terrible -- the same way a lot of amateur original writing is terrible. So, if someday in the future I decide to post a few 'ficz of my own, you folks will be buttered up for the whole idea of it.

Provided this wasn't too long, and lost your attention.

#2 Posted by primepower53 (5655 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

The Public Domain is basically the best way to be paid to write fan fiction.

There's even a sight for public domain super heroes.

Just sayin'

#3 Edited by minigunman123 (3100 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

*Looks at the title of the forum this is posted under*

*Wonders why Joygirl thinks we all hate fan-fiction*

#4 Posted by Joygirl (6126 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@minigunman123: I don't think everyone hates fan-fic, I wrote it for something else and figured what I had to say could be of interesy here. XD

#5 Posted by minigunman123 (3100 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

@minigunman123: I don't think everyone hates fan-fic, I wrote it for something else and figured what I had to say could be of interesy here. XD

Ahh. Well I can relate to the fact that there's tons of bad fan-fiction out there, but some of it is really, really fun to read, and even some others are nearly novel-length and are simply amazing (I've only come across like, one or two, maybe three, of those, in my entire viewing of fanfiction.net, though). I think that it's fun reading other people's interpretations of characters, and sometimes their own original characters, if they write it well and don't diverge too much from the source material; when that happens, it tends to seem less like fan-fiction, and more like fan-destruction, lol. It has to be really well-written for a divergent fan-fic to be worth reading, IMO.

#6 Posted by lykopis (6288 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Having read a lot of fanfiction, I find myself drawn more towards stories that stay in character and I specifically like reading stories written by new authors because I find they need the most feedback and are more open to suggestions to better themselves.

I do appreciate new directions that are taken with popular characters but when its so way off --- and the environment is equally as unfamiliar, I usually encourage those authors to branch away from fanfiction and explore their ideas with original characters. Its fun getting to see the progress made by various writers as well.

#7 Posted by batkevin74 (5222 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

It's just professional fan-fiction, as they're being paid and acknowledged as writers for those characters.

Well said! Nice rant, intelligent and concise.

#8 Posted by darth_brendroid (1717 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

A lot of pop culture is fanfiction. Only difference is that they're paid to produce it.

#9 Edited by BumpyBoo (3993 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

YES!! Down with fan-fic prejudice! Down with it!!

**Throws Molotov**

Good writing is good writing. And if fan-fic is good enough for S P Somtow and Poppy Z Brite (who each count a Crow fan-fic novel among their published works), then I simply do not care what anyone else thinks about it.

Nice rant :D

#10 Posted by andrewtheking (960 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

So true

[ and i am a horrible writer ]

#11 Posted by wildvine (3271 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@andrewtheking said:

So true

[ and i am a horrible writer ]

You are merely unpracticed. Not "horrible".

#12 Posted by thespideyguy (1454 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

That is good logic.

#13 Posted by ekrolo (302 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@andrewtheking: No im a horrible writer, not you.

#14 Posted by feebadger (1279 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

I think that all writing is practise. No writer ever truly arrives at where they want to be. It is an ongoing journey that never really ends (short of death. That's quite final, i've heard). Fan fiction is a great way to hone your skills whilst letting your imagination dwell in a truly enjoyable landscape. There is a short hand involved with fan fic i think, also, much like writing in any genre, people are already familiar with the form and the inner mythology, like reading a crime novel or a romance novel; you kind of know the basic set up the minute you jump in. I always used to look down my nose at fan fic, but have found it really useful to practise my writing and to learn from others. I think there are a lot of 'successful' writers out there (~cough~ stephenie meyer ~cough~) who would greatly benefit from some time in the fan fic trenches.

#15 Posted by Project_Worm (2595 posts) - 6 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Project_Worm's Fan-Fic rant:

BLAAAAHGH!!! Gimme' comments!! WAAAAHH!!

#16 Posted by xxxddd (2962 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

Nice.

#17 Posted by TheCannon (14193 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@ekrolo said:

@andrewtheking: No im a horrible writer, not you.

No, you're not a horrible writer. I am. You're Thor fan fics are epics.

#18 Posted by Joygirl (6126 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCannon said:

@ekrolo said:

@andrewtheking: No im a horrible writer, not you.

No, you're not a horrible writer. I am. Your Thor fan fics are epics.

Fixed.

#19 Posted by TheCannon (14193 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

What'd you change?

#20 Posted by Joygirl (6126 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCannon: The second you're to your.

#21 Posted by YoungJustice (5679 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

I do much better writing over a period of time, rather than just rushing it out, which is what I do with most of my fan-fics.

#22 Posted by Time_Phantom (371 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

Great rant . I find fan-fiction to be great practice for writers honing their craft . A fun way to let that spark of creativity out and spread it to some sorry reader that takes a leap of faith to actually read someone elses thoughts. Then you get were I'm at and find fan fiction boring and your own original creations more fun.

then after like two years you stumble on comic-vine's fan-fic page and start writing the stuff again. Or at least that is what happened to me. Personally I blame great writers on this site (not naming names it would inflate egos and all that. That and I think people know who I'm talking about.) for the renewed interest in fan-fics.

#23 Posted by Joygirl (6126 posts) - 6 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@Time_Phantom: Thanks very much. :D

#24 Posted by CapFanboy (4217 posts) - 6 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

@TheCannon: The second you're to your.

This was hilarious.

#25 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2373 posts) - 6 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

Personally I find fan fiction to be easier to write than original fiction. You're given all the characters and base locations, so all you have to do is think of a good plot to put them in.

#26 Posted by Pyrogram (11070 posts) - 6 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

This got me thinking along with talking to batkevin, do you think original or proper fan fic is more liked on this forum?

#27 Posted by X~X~X (22 posts) - 6 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

I don't really understand why people would hate fan-fiction, personally I think I tend to shy away from reading a lot of it because a lot of people try it but few are good at it and I'd really like to just be able to know which are the good ones and read those which is the same way I am with published comics. I personally think it's a lot easier to write regular fiction over fan-fiction though, I mean as a fan you feel the need to honor certain ideas and so forth and your own stuff you can just do whatever you want and let your mind run free. With fan-fiction your confined to the pre-existing limits set out by the works you are using. So, I'd say it takes more talent to write good fan-fiction over good fiction.

#28 Edited by Joygirl (6126 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@X~X~X: Just type "DC Mayhem" into the search bar. :P Those are the good ones.

#29 Edited by Med (211 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

you can absolutely be talented at writing fan fiction. you can be talented at invisible cookie baking truth be told. just because other people don't respect the field doesn't mean that you're not talented. and anyone who doesn't like fan fiction should understand that and make the distinction. as a person not too into fan fics, i testify that it is possible. more power to you, miss.

#30 Posted by batkevin74 (5222 posts) - 6 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

@Joygirl: Bump

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