#1 Posted by cold_fuzion (167 posts) - - Show Bio

I've noticed that a lot of volumes have been getting renamed with a volume # added (Teen Titans Vol. 1 for example). What is the official stance on this? I'm against it personally and I use Captain Marvel as my example why. Different characters, different publishers, same title. Are the Monica Rambeu titles in the same volume line as the Mar-Vell books? What about the original Captain Marvel? How exactly do you volume this? Is a single issue a volume?
 
I'm a big fan of putting whatever is on the cover and ONLY what it is on the cover. Take JSA Vs. Kobra somehow engines of faith got added to the title. While it is the name of the story arc, it's not on any of the covers.I'm ot trying to start an argument, I'm just trying to decide if I should be leaving these things alone or not.

#2 Posted by jloneblackheart (5497 posts) - - Show Bio

Whatever the indicia states is what the volume should be titled.

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#3 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no need to add 'Vol. #1' on to the series' title.  There'll always be an icon featuring the cover of the first issue, so that should be a visual way to distinguish between different volumes.

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#4 Posted by fesak (7031 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart said:

" Whatever the indicia states is what the volume should be titled. "

This.
 
If it says Teen Titans Vol. 1 in the indicia then that is the title. 
If it only says Teen Titans then that's the title. 
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#5 Posted by HaloKing343 (1252 posts) - - Show Bio

I think if its the same publisher it gets a number and if it crosses then it's just "volume". But l'm not a staffer so obviously I have no idea.

#6 Posted by cold_fuzion (167 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak said:
" @jloneblackheart said:

" Whatever the indicia states is what the volume should be titled. "

This.  If it says Teen Titans Vol. 1 in the indicia then that is the title.  If it only says Teen Titans then that's the title.  "
But I've seen books that will have that for a few months, then just lose the Vol. 1 part.
#7 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak said:
" @jloneblackheart said:

" Whatever the indicia states is what the volume should be titled. "

This.  If it says Teen Titans Vol. 1 in the indicia then that is the title.  If it only says Teen Titans then that's the title.  "
yeah, comics seem to be random like that...I mean Vertigo has published two volumes of Unknown Soldier (neither being the first one by DC) and neither have a Vol. # but they've also published two volumes of American Splendor (neither being the first by Harvey Pekar) and one has no vol. # while the other says Vol. 2...of course I don't think the people adding volume #'s do it because they checked the indicia
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#8 Posted by Shatterstar (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

I know I've PMed at least one person adding the volume number to the volume pages. What Fesak said above is the policy, its the only one that makes sense (to me at least, always willing to hear other arguments of course). 


@aztek of course the first volume wouldn't have a volume number attached to it unless they planned on it being a multi-volume series to start with. It'd be kind of silly/pretentious to publish a "volume 1" and never have a volume 2 come out. 

I think part of the problem still lies in the search we've got on comicvine. People think its too hard to find certain volumes so they add these volume numbers. Like someone did with Fantastic Four- http://www.comicvine.com/search/?q=fantastic%20four&ct=volume  


@gpbmike we either need bigger thumbnails in the search pages so you can actually distinguish what volume we're looking at or we need some sort of indication of the year the volume started. 

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#9 Posted by jloneblackheart (5497 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shatterstar said:
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I think part of the problem still lies in the search we've got on comicvine. People think its too hard to find certain volumes so they add these volume numbers. Like someone did with Fantastic Four- http://www.comicvine.com/search/?q=fantastic%20four&ct=volume  

"
.....guilty
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#10 Posted by Aerik (68 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shatterstar said:
@gpbmike we either need bigger thumbnails in the search pages so you can actually distinguish what volume we're looking at or we need some sort of indication of the year the volume started.  "
perhaps having the year the series started in there would be a benefit...
#11 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aerik said:
" @Shatterstar said:
@gpbmike we either need bigger thumbnails in the search pages so you can actually distinguish what volume we're looking at or we need some sort of indication of the year the volume started.  "
perhaps having the year the series started in there would be a benefit... "
you shouldn't have to put it into the title, IMO the year (and publisher for characters) should by default appear when your searching but putting it in the title would be unnecessary and a lot of work
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#12 Posted by cold_fuzion (167 posts) - - Show Bio
@aztek the lost said:
" @Aerik said:
" @Shatterstar said:
@gpbmike we either need bigger thumbnails in the search pages so you can actually distinguish what volume we're looking at or we need some sort of indication of the year the volume started.  "
perhaps having the year the series started in there would be a benefit... "
you shouldn't have to put it into the title, IMO the year (and publisher for characters) should by default appear when your searching but putting it in the title would be unnecessary and a lot of work "
I think he was more asking for the start year be added to the search results page you you would get something like: Fantastic Four (1964) instead of just Fantastic Four.
#13 Posted by Aerik (68 posts) - - Show Bio

You are a clever man my friend. On the results page would be great but it would be very useful in the drop down...

#14 Posted by cold_fuzion (167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aerik said:
" You are a clever man my friend. On the results page would be great but it would be very useful in the drop down... "
Even better! I think that would solve 99% of this argument.
#15 Posted by Shatterstar (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea thats what I meant. Thats how it used to be, plus the thumbnails were larger. One or the other would help IMO.

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#16 Posted by Merovin (21 posts) - - Show Bio

Is anything going to be done with adding the start date to the drop down title? I saw that a few editors have started adding it outright to the title and I started to follow their lead (having read this post) but I don't want to make a change someone else will have to go back and fix.  I added it to a few volumes and realized I shouldn't go any further without checking.
 
I know having multiple volumes in the drop down makes me crazy. The thumbnails just aren't big enough to be helpful, so showing the volume start date adds some clarity.