#1 Posted by Fhiz (494 posts) - - Show Bio

So, the next five issues of Batman and Robin are going to be called "Batman and Red Robin," "Batman and Red Hood," "Batman and Batgirl" etc. but keep the same numbering. Should new volumes be made for each of these issues, or to keep things simple stick to the standard Batman and Robin volume?

#2 Edited by Billy Batson (58154 posts) - - Show Bio

Well that's what we did with "Captain America and...":

But I think it depends on the indicia.

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#3 Posted by Renchamp (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

The Cable and Deadpool series did this, replacing Cable's title to the Fantastic Four and Doctor Strange, but the volume stayed the same.

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#4 Edited by fesak (7061 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on the indicia.

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#5 Posted by noj (1090 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they should remain in the same volume since they are only an issue each

#6 Posted by Fhiz (494 posts) - - Show Bio

Another option I just thought of, with the new site, I believe volumes can be given aliases as well.

#7 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah, that's just contradictory to every other other volume. If the indicia changes each each, so should the volume. If Overlord Pika is to be believed then we will eventually get around to sorting out the older volumes that need separating after the new site has settled.

#8 Posted by Fhiz (494 posts) - - Show Bio

So new volume it is, then?

#9 Posted by fesak (7061 posts) - - Show Bio

@fhiz said:

So new volume it is, then?

As said; index by indicia. We won't know until the issues comes out

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#10 Edited by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

@x35: give it a rest... I've barely even been here the past week.

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#11 Posted by wmwadeii (3250 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally like the idea of using the aliases now that we have them. Captain America and ... was listed and if you go to Marvel's page the list it as such and a single volume http://marvel.com/comics/series/16325/captain_america_and._2012. Also from a reading standpoint it's less confusing too.

#12 Posted by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

@wmwadeii: that goes against our main rule of indicia naming though, if the indicias hadn't changed the aliases would have been awesome for it. I have a sinking suspicion that the Batman and Robin indicias won't change though as DC doesn't change them as often as Marvel.

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#13 Edited by Billy Batson (58154 posts) - - Show Bio

So two pages of the same issue then? :s

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#14 Posted by wmwadeii (3250 posts) - - Show Bio

So two pages of the same issue then? :s

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Only problem with this is story arcs and reviews.

#15 Edited by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

@wmwadeii: @billy_batson: I'm waiting until I or someone I know sees the indicia to confirm which to go with.

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#16 Posted by wmwadeii (3250 posts) - - Show Bio

@wmwadeii: @billy_batson: I'm waiting until I or someone I know sees the indicia to confirm which to go with.

I think what Billy was saying was to create two different pages of the same issue, one under the original volume and a second in a new volume with the indicia. I was trying to explain why this was a bad idea.

#17 Posted by Fhiz (494 posts) - - Show Bio

So, the indicia is listed as "Batman and Red Robin (Batman and Robin)" because things can't be simple. So, there's an issue on the regular volume's page, and there's a Batman and Red Robin volume... one of them can go I guess. If the standalone volume is axed, then the regular volume is going to need a "Batman and Red Robin/Red Hood/Batgirl/Catwoman/Nightwing" alias.

#18 Posted by End_Boss (738 posts) - - Show Bio

The title on the cover might change, but it's still a part of the Batman & Robin series, which would be incomplete without it.

That should really be all that matters.

#19 Posted by Fhiz (494 posts) - - Show Bio

@end_boss said:

The title on the cover might change, but it's still a part of the Batman & Robin series, which would be incomplete without it.

That should really be all that matters.

well so were all those Captain America and... issues.

Anyways, here's a pic of the info

#20 Edited by End_Boss (738 posts) - - Show Bio

@fhiz: Not in the same way. Whereas the Cap series was usually just "Captain America," the Batman stuff has always been "Batman & Robin." I think the fact that the actual issue number is next to the title in parentheses is telling, too.

#21 Posted by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna stick to a single volume since that is what is shows in the indicia brackets, I'll have to delete the one you added Fhiz.

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#22 Edited by Fhiz (494 posts) - - Show Bio

@pikahyper: Yep, figured as much. I actually prefer it that way, makes things simpler. Just don't forget the aliases then!

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#24 Edited by Billy Batson (58154 posts) - - Show Bio

@wmwadeii said:

I think what Billy was saying was to create two different pages of the same issue, one under the original volume and a second in a new volume with the indicia. I was trying to explain why this was a bad idea.

Nah, fhiz had added two issues, hence my post :p

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#25 Posted by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

@billy_batson: that was another user that added the second one, Fhiz just added content to it so it looked like he had added it.

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#26 Posted by Billy Batson (58154 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by TDK_1997 (14988 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they should be on the same volume.

#28 Edited by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997: it was taken care of almost ten hours ago.

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#29 Posted by wmwadeii (3250 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna stick to a single volume since that is what is shows in the indicia brackets, I'll have to delete the one you added Fhiz.

This is the same way Skullkickers new issues for Uncanny Skullkickers and Savage Skullkickers have the original title in brackets too. Should they now be combined under this new criteria?

#30 Posted by TDK_1997 (14988 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

@wmwadeii: nah the indicia's are not set up the same, B&R is Batman and Red Robin (Batman and Robin #19) and Skullkickers is Uncanny Skullkickers #1 (Skullkickers #19).

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#32 Posted by wmwadeii (3250 posts) - - Show Bio

@pikahyper: gotcha, forgot it had the # 1. Then again the Skullkickers thing is a whole joke by Image but I get what your saying.

#33 Posted by pikahyper (12419 posts) - - Show Bio

@wmwadeii: ya I read an article about the Skullkickers thing and they are doing it for the attention and sales, they don't seem to care one way or the other how things are getting cataloged, in a retailer sense it makes sense to keep the Skullkickers stuff together but for an informational wiki we need to be more accurate.

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