Grammar Tasks Needed

Despite the already frightening amount of tasks I've posted and logging in to 30+ PMs on a daily basis, I'm considering starting a thread for people to point out pages that need grammatical revision. I assigned a task a couple weeks ago to revise Robin, which turned out to be much more involved than I anticipated but I think the page benefited from the gang of people that participated.  People don't get rewarded enough for improving pages' readability and frankly poorly written pages reflect poorly on the site as a whole. There's hundreds of thousands of pages on CV, I can't be everywhere, so I pose the question to the 12,500 people i'm being followed by-
   
Any suggestions for pages that need dramatic grammatical revision?

 @Shatterstar: I still think the Robin page needs formatting though, no offense.  It looks like someone just threw Stephanie Brown in the middle of Tim Drake's information.  Plus there is a ton of information on Tim on that page.  Wouldn't it be better if there was a brief description and then a link to the actual Tim Drake Page instead of having the same information twice?  Just a thought.
I haven't come across a page needs dramatic grammatical revision but I'll keep my eyes open

"  @Shatterstar: I still think the Robin page needs formatting though, no offense.  It looks like someone just threw Stephanie Brown in the middle of Tim Drake's information.  Plus there is a ton of information on Tim on that page.  Wouldn't it be better if there was a brief description and then a link to the actual Tim Drake Page instead of having the same information twice?  Just a thought. I haven't come across a page needs dramatic grammatical revision but I'll keep my eyes open "

I will take a look around for you Shatterstar.

Yes cleaning up all the top popular characters pages would be great.  I wonder if we should make it so only trusted users can edited the big characters... people who understand the site, have good grammar, and know the characters?

" Yes cleaning up all the top popular characters pages would be great.  I wonder if we should make it so only trusted users can edited the big characters... people who understand the site, have good grammar, and know the characters? "

" Yes cleaning up all the top popular characters pages would be great.  I wonder if we should make it so only trusted users can edited the big characters... people who understand the site, have good grammar, and know the characters? "

" @Red L.A.M.P. said:

" Yes cleaning up all the top popular characters pages would be great.  I wonder if we should make it so only trusted users can edited the big characters... people who understand the site, have good grammar, and know the characters? "

I remember we used to have pages like Batman locked down. I'm not sure how we would set that up so it would be more available to new contributors. Moderators could anoint people but its kind of hard to tell who is doing what on pages. Perhaps the top 10-25 pages (according to click count) should automatically go through moderation?An arbitrary points cut off like 5000 points to be able to set a page's default image probably wouldn't work. There's users with tens of thousands of points that have never actually written anything.           "

Great idea Star! But what can we all do to lighten your burden? I myself know I have pages I've done massive work on "on site" as in without aid of software to correct typos Grammer etc. Sometimes once I hit save I'm exhausted and don't remember to "clean up" after myself. So to help with this task tomorrow first thing when I wake up I'll comb through all my submissions from  highest to lowest and do my part in bettering Comicvine not just for original content but grammatically correct well punctuated  character pages. If we all cleaned up after ourselves it would dramatically lighten the loads of the mods.
 
On another note too, Ive seen a few really bad pages "grammar wise" and sometimes the users who generated them don't actually speak or write English  so they lead to some very.....confounding pages.
 
Hope that helps

99% of the edits lately have been to fix spelling & grammatical errors. I understand that for some people English is a second language but I think alot of it comes from pure laziness. How hard is it to spell check your work?

" 99% of the edits lately have been to fix spelling & grammatical errors. I understand that for some people English is a second language but I think alot of it comes from pure laziness. How hard is it to spell check your work? "

"  On another note too, Ive seen a few really bad pages "grammar wise" and sometimes the users who generated them don't actually speak or write English  so they lead to some very.....confounding pages.  Hope that helps "

" @Lady Tlieso said:

" 99% of the edits lately have been to fix spelling & grammatical errors. I understand that for some people English is a second language but I think alot of it comes from pure laziness. How hard is it to spell check your work? "

I agree. Especially if you're using something like Google Chrome, which gives you red squiggly lines under anything that is not spelled correctly. "

" @courtney12490 said:

" @Lady Tlieso said:

" 99% of the edits lately have been to fix spelling & grammatical errors. I understand that for some people English is a second language but I think alot of it comes from pure laziness. How hard is it to spell check your work? "

I agree. Especially if you're using something like Google Chrome, which gives you red squiggly lines under anything that is not spelled correctly. "

Firefox does the same thing. "

" Yes cleaning up all the top popular characters pages would be great.  I wonder if we should make it so only trusted users can edited the big characters... people who understand the site, have good grammar, and know the characters? "

I just began with this whole wiki editing thing, I think I did a good job, it's hard work, I spent my good 8-10 hours on doing each of the only 2 pages I edited so far. My explorer doesn't make a grammar correction, but I'm very careful about that, actually english is a second language for me.

" @Shatterstar: Like you say, the problem isn't just that the poor grammar exists, it's that there's little incentive (when compared to other tasks) to fix it. I know from experience how involved fixing grammar and structure is. The reward seems inversely proportional to how much of a pain it is. "

" @Shatterstar:  could be worse . the pages could sound like lol catz wrote them  : ( "

" I just began with this whole wiki editing thing, I think I did a good job, it's hard work, I spent my good 8-10 hours on doing each of the only 2 pages I edited so far. My explorer doesn't make a grammar correction, but I'm very careful about that, actually english is a second language for me. "

"99% of the edits lately have been to fix spelling & grammatical errors. I understand that for some people English is a second language but I think alot of it comes from pure laziness. How hard is it to spell check your work? "

In my CV surfing I ran across Hawkgirl and found the Intro to be jibberish.  There are also a few format problems with the headings.  I wouldn't say this page needs dramatic grammatical revision (there is actually a lot of great information here) but the intro looks like someone dropped a bomb on it.   
 
I was going to fix this myself but do not know enough about Hawkgirl to do her justice.  Hawkgirl has been around for many a moons, I think she deserves a sweet page.  
 
If I have added this to the wrong part of the forum, forgive me.  I may have been around CV for a couple of years now but I have only recently become involved in Forums or Wiki submissions.   
 
Thanks for listening. 

" In my CV surfing I ran across Hawkgirl and found the Intro to be jibberish.  There are also a few format problems with the headings.  I wouldn't say this page needs dramatic grammatical revision (there is actually a lot of great information here) but the intro looks like someone dropped a bomb on it.    I was going to fix this myself but do not know enough about Hawkgirl to do her justice.  Hawkgirl has been around for many a moons, I think she deserves a sweet page.   If I have added this to the wrong part of the forum, forgive me.  I may have been around CV for a couple of years now but I have only recently become involved in Forums or Wiki submissions.    Thanks for listening.  "

• Blurb - A sentence about the character. A teaser. This is already on most entries.
• Origin - The characters history and other important information,
• Physical Description - The look of the character.
• Powers - What can he/she/it do to defend or rule the universe.
• Alternate Universes - With so many characters being part of the multi-verse, this is where they should be listed.

" @Shatterstar:  
 
I've only edited 3 wiki's and found the level of errors is just horrific. I edited Aunt May, Uncle Ben, and Roland Deschain.  With Aunt May and Uncle Ben, it was all over the place. Structure, grammar, spelling, links, and so on. I edited both for a couple of hours and still couldn't get through most of it. 
 
With Roland, it was a little easier. I am reading the Dark Tower series right now and I used the books and Wikipedia (I had to, I didn't want to include spoilers) to "clean up" Roland's entry. The basic thread of it was good, but it lacked polish and ... clarity of thought. 
 
Maybe a "basic" template should be devised. Each entry is divided into specific sections:   

• Blurb - A sentence about the character. A teaser. This is already on most entries.
• Origin - The characters history and other important information,
• Physical Description - The look of the character.
• Powers - What can he/she/it do to defend or rule the universe.
• Alternate Universes - With so many characters being part of the multi-verse, this is where they should be listed.

   The rest of the entry would remain the same. Each part could be entered into the main window or separate windows.      I also agree with some of the other posters that more of an incentive to correct "bad entries" would help. Locking down an entry once it was finished would be another help. This could be voted on by all of ComicVine, or just the entries top posters.  Just some thoughts. "

" @Shatterstar said:

" As for locking pages, thats been volleyed around for a while, I've not seen it since the site was brand new and the top pages (Superman, Batman, etc) were locked from edits. "

I think mods should be able to lock pages and then if a user wanted to edit it, they'd have to hit a button that sends a PM to all the mods about what they wanted to do  however, I don't think it should apply to big and active characters as they need to be updated all the time  as for set format, I admit when I make a big page I like to divide it up like Wikipedia with Publication History, then History...and then all those other tidbits at the bottom but that's just me "

" @The Dark Huntress said:

" @aztek the lost said:

" @Shatterstar said:

" As for locking pages, thats been volleyed around for a while, I've not seen it since the site was brand new and the top pages (Superman, Batman, etc) were locked from edits. "

I think mods should be able to lock pages and then if a user wanted to edit it, they'd have to hit a button that sends a PM to all the mods about what they wanted to do  however, I don't think it should apply to big and active characters as they need to be updated all the time  as for set format, I admit when I make a big page I like to divide it up like Wikipedia with Publication History, then History...and then all those other tidbits at the bottom but that's just me "

All pages, or just specific ones? I think that would create an awful lot of extra work for the mods if it were all pages, but you would know better than I.  "

well I think we should have the ability to lock any page but there'd probably only be a few hundred at max that were locked and most would be pages that nobody wants to edit anyways because it's perfect as is and the comic ended years ago, such as MShades' Preacher pages...they seem for the most part done to me, at some point, editing a page just means making it your style of writing, but not actually adding to the quality... "

It would be nice if there was an undo button.  So mods could just undo the last wiki edits that butchered a page AND the points anyone got for said butchering.

Really?  You mean with people arguing about their submissions disappearing?

I think one of the problems inherent in the locking down of pages is that the Mods are going to get a ton of PM's from users asking to "just add a little something". It would be okay if the request went to all of the Mods and anyone of them could respond. Somehow I think that the responsibility would fall to a few of them to respond to the request. 
 
@Shatterstar:  

W e've left pages pretty much open for people to stylize and format as they wish with the only rules being don't plagiarize other sources. Maybe a set template, at least for superhero characters would work. It'd be pretty difficult to enforce without it being built into the UI. 

More task period would be appreciated guys :)

" More task period would be appreciated guys :) "

I found a few pages I was going to edit but they are too much for me.  (novice) They might be a good addition to the Tasks List.  
 
Aquamaria - Large blank gap in page format between Powers and Appearances in other Media.  Also, scattered minor grammatical errors throughout but especially in the last run-on paragraph that switches from past to present tense. 
 
Luma Lynai - Needs major help.  
 
Fire - This page starts off fine and has a lot of great information but the errors increase as you read.  Grammar and some spelling.  
 
edit to add a couple of pages I tried to clean up today but think are too much for me to do, without a significant amount of re-write, I also lack enough familiarity with the characters. 
 
Nico Minoru - This page is another that starts off fine but about half way through errors increase and it becomes confusing.  It really does need a task.  I started to work on it then realized I wasn't able to fix it without a rewrite and deleting a lot.
  
Contessa Valentina Allegro de la Fontaine - grammar and it's a bit confusing.

Could someone fix Bounty's page? The one who did confused him with when Dawnstar was called that and they urelated characters. I would do it but I don't know enough about him.

The Viper page needs grammatical editing. 

" The Viper page needs grammatical editing.  "