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#1  Edited By Methos

Ok, I assume all of you know this by now...

Plagiarism is not accepted on this site and will be dealt with accordingly.

Plagiarism, for those who don't know, means copying and pasting the info from another site. Basically copying someone else's work and claiming it's your own for the points.

Don't do it!

With that subtle warning out of the way, this is now a pinned thread for anyone to report any plagiarized info they come across in the database.

If you see some, and find it's from another site, please post a link of the page in the database and the page it's copied from here.

This thread will be checked daily by a mod or admin and all plagiarized material will be removed.

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#2  Edited By fesak  Moderator

Plagiarism is bad, m'kay

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#3  Edited By Methos

yes, anyone caught plagiarizing other sites will be hit by the mods...

if you do it again, you will be hit by the admin...

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#5  Edited By WARLOCK2792

I think it's also important to note the difference between plagiarism, and an article having "similarities". A character's history never changes. But the people writing/editing the article(s) change on a regular basis.

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#6  Edited By Phorqe

Is it OK to get information from a second party source (not directly from the comic itself, but from wikipedia, etc.) and edit it accordingly? It's going to have the same information, and as long as its verified by an other source and is accurate, there is no problem, right?

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#7  Edited By gmanfromheck

It becomes overly obvious when the wiki article has, say five paragraphs, and the one submitted also has five exact paragraphs. The history's not going to change but you don't have to hit the same exact points, or story arcs that are elsewhere. If a person must check another source, it's best to look at it then close that page when writing here. Write from what you know. Just taking the text and changing a couple words isn't enough. Claiming someone else's work as your own is just stealing. There's really no excuse. I hear so often that "I didn't know." It states on the EDIT PAGE that plagiarism is not allowed.

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#8  Edited By Copy

fesak says:

"Plagiarism is bad, m'kay
" />http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/user/1000/28dd2c7955ce926456240b2ff0100bde/127371_400.gif"

Lol.

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#9  Edited By Sparda

The Spawn page....

http://www.comicvine.com/spawn/3381/

....has some plagarism on it. Either that, or the person wrote it and then put it on Wiki.

Check out Wiki's Divine Powers section.....

"Following issue #161, the Man of Miracles gave Spawn a fruit from the Tree of Life and propelled his power to nearly omnipotent levels, enabling him to rival God and Satan, effectively making him a third power in the battle of Armageddon. Spawn has apparent control over the Earth itself, using it to his will when in battle against both armies. Spawn used the Earth to swallow all other Hellspawn and imprison them back in Hell. Most impressively, he used his new powers to wipe out the earth of all the legions of Heaven and Hell in one blast without showing any obvious wear on his power. In issue #163 he resurrected all humans and undid all the damage from the Four Horsemen. However, after returning to his original Hellspawn form, he seems to have lost a great deal, if not all, of his divine powers."

And the page here has the same. There may be more plagarism on the rest of the page as well.

(I think I made a thread about this before, but since this is now the official plagarism thread, I'll post it again here)

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#10  Edited By Methos

right, i'll look into that

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#11  Edited By Methos

wikipedia page

comicvine page

looks like plagiarism to me...

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#12  Edited By Copy

I made a thread about the spawm page being plagiarism. Shatterstar took care of it.

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Methos says:

"wikipedia pagecomicvine pagelooks like plagiarism to me...M"

Lo and behold.

Kill it with fire and holy water, graaaaaaaggghh!

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#15  Edited By fesak  Moderator

I've brought this up several times before, but i still say Rogue's entry id copy/pasted from http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=56&page=3

The beginning is slightly altered, but from this part it's word for word.:

During this incident, Anna learned that Carol had returned and was now living in San Francisco. Unaware that this would cause the danger that Destiny had predicted, she tracked down Danvers, and battled her on the Golden Gate Bridge. Carol resisted Anna’s powers like nobody before and something went wrong. Anna found that, somehow, her metabolism had permanently retained Ms. Marvel's mind and powers. Fearing for her own sanity and identity, as she kept hearing Carol's voice in her head, Anna threw Danvers’ body off the bridge. Hoping that her physical death would also kill the voice in her head, unfortunately for Anna, she was rescued by Spider-Woman, who brought Carol to a hospital, where Charles Xavier could partially restore her memories. Under Mystique’s guidance, Anna proceeded to attack the Avengers one by one, absorbing the powers of Thor and Captain America, with Raven impersonating Nick Fury; she tried to free the rest of the Brotherhood from prison. However, the remaining Avengers and Spider-Woman prevented the breakout. As most of her stolen powers were already fading, Anna escaped with Mystique to avoid being captured as well.

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#16  Edited By gmanfromheck

The main thing is, they need to be re-written or edited. And of course that the plagiarism just needs to stop.

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#17  Edited By ShufflerHS

What if someone takes written stuff from a comicvine page and puts it on wiki? What to we do then?

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Sparda says:

"Methos says:
"wikipedia pagecomicvine pagelooks like plagiarism to me...M"

Lo and behold.

Kill it with fire and holy water, graaaaaaaggghh!"

Lol and behold.

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#20  Edited By Starleafgirl

I don't know if this has ever happened before, but what if someone sees a CV page they like and copies and pastes it into Wikipedia? >.>

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Starleafgirl says:

"I don't know if this has ever happened before, but what if someone sees a CV page they like and copies and pastes it into Wikipedia?"

If that happens, the mods will investigate.

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Were aloud to read something from another website then re write it and put it on here right?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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Plagiarism on my favourite DC character's page......

Wiki on V.....

"The 5th of November, 1997, London. The vigilante known as V rescues a young woman, Evey Hammond, from a gang of police agents — known as "Fingermen" — who are about to rape her after arresting her for prostitution. After dispatching the fingermen, V then takes her to his secret lair, which he calls "The Shadow Gallery". There, Evey tells V her life story, describing the nuclear war of the late 1980s that led to anomie, and then of the fascist coup d'état in which her father became a political prisoner. A new government under the name of the old has risen.

Investigation of V's bombing is assigned to Eric Finch, head of "The Nose" (the name by which the regular police are commonly known) and an experienced investigator who serves the government out of a love of order rather than political conviction. Through him we meet other figures in the Party, including the Leader, Adam James Susan, a recluse who is fixated on the police state's computer system "Fate"; Commander Derek Almond, the leader of "The Finger", the secret police; Rose, Almond's emotionally and physically abused wife; Dominic Stone, Finch's partner; Conrad Heyer, head of "The Eye", the visual surveillance branch; Helen, Heyer's extremely ambitious and ruthless wife; Brian Etheridge, head of "The Ear", the audio surveillance branch; and Roger Dascombe, in charge of "The Mouth", the branch in charge of broadcasting propaganda.

V next blows up the Old Bailey after pretending that he and the Madame Justice statue on the Old Bailey are conversing (which begins with V politely saying hello to Justice, and ends with him giving her a present with a bomb in it and calling her a whore, saying he has met a new woman named Madame Anarchy), and confronts three Party figures to accuse them of past crimes: Lewis Prothero, the propaganda broadcaster who serves as the "Voice of Fate"; Bishop Anthony Lilliman, a pedophile who represents the Party in the clergy; and Delia Surridge, a seemingly apolitical doctor who had a personal relationship with Finch. V attacks each of them in an ironic fashion, derived from previous encounters. Prothero is driven to insanity after V destroys his collection of priceless dolls in a reproduced death camp oven while having Prothero dressed up in a Commander uniform (Prothero was Commander of Larkhill); Lilliman is killed by being forced to consume a cyanide-laced communion wafer just as he is about to rape Evey dressed up in a little girl costume (Lilliman was a priest who was hired to give spiritual support to camp prisoners taking the Batch 5 drug); and Dr. Surridge dies from a lethal injection (she was the doctor in charge of criminal medical experiments at the camp and who had studied V) - however, as she was the only worker at Larkhill that expressed remorse for her actions, the injection and her death are painless. Upon leaving Delia's home, V is surprised by Derek Almond, who was warned by Finch that V was after Surridge and tries to capture him. Unfortunately for Almond, he forgets to reload his gun after having cleaned it earlier that same night, and he is quickly killed by V.

Finch begins his research upon his discovery of Dr. Surridge's diary. It reveals that all three victims were officers at the Larkhill Resettlement Camp, and that over the previous years, every other staff member from the camp has died, apparently killed by V — the vendetta of the title. Finch later discovers that this apparent "vendetta" served as a diversion from the true cause of action. V, the only prisoner to have survived the death camp, chose to eliminate its surviving officers to prevent the government from discovering his true identity. It could also be said that they were killed as retribution for the prisoners' pain and death due to the Larkhill officers' adherence to the fascist administration. With no records of his real name or personage existing, V can operate covertly. All that is known to the reader is that he was subjected to medical experiments involving hormonal injections of a substance called "Batch 5," which presumably triggered V's transformation into an obsessive and brilliant (though possibly psychotic) avenger. Though "codename V"'s past and former identity remain a mystery, in Delia Surridge's flashbacks (while Finch is reading her diary to the leader), one picture shows the back of his head and reveals that he is white (Book 1, Chapter 11, the picture in the upper-right corner of page 81). Naturally, Finch only reads the diary and cannot see that, but the reader, having access to imagery, can see that Codename V is white.

Four months later (February 23, 1998), V breaks into Jordan Tower, the broadcast centre for the Party, to broadcast an anarchist speech that calls on the people to take charge of their own lives. He escapes by tying up Dascombe, placing a copy of V's own costume and mask on him, and standing him up in the control room where he is shot by police who storm the room. Eric Finch, in going over the crime scene, punches Peter Creedy, a petty criminal promoted to Head of the Finger after Almond's death, for a personal remark related to Delia Surridge (with whom he was romantically involved) and is sent by The Leader on a forced vacation.

Evey has developed a strong attachment to V, but he has begun to challenge her morality. After a confrontation in the Shadow Gallery, she finds herself abandoned on a street, unable to find V. She is taken in by Gordon Deitrich, a petty criminal with whom she becomes romantically involved, and they cross paths unknowingly with Derek Almond's widow Rose; after the deaths of her husband and Dascombe (with whom she had been forced by circumstances into having a relationship with), Rose is forced to work as a burlesque dancer, and consequently develops a strong hatred for the Party. Creedy begins organizing a private militia, hoping to use V's destabilization of the Party to mount a coup against the Leader. V, maintaining surveillance on all of these various factions, appears to be manipulating them against each other.

When Gordon is murdered by the Scottish gangster Alistair Harper, whom he was dealing with, Evey attempts to kill Harper in revenge but is seized, arrested, detained, and accused of attempting to murder Peter Creedy as he was meeting with Harper. In her cell, Evey finds a letter from a presumably dead former inmate named Valerie, an actress who was imprisoned for being a lesbian. Evey's interrogator tortures her multiple times and finally gives her a choice of collaboration or death; inspired by Valerie's courage and quiet defiance, she refuses to give in and is told that she is free. To her shock, Evey learns that her imprisonment was a hoax constructed by V, designed to put her through an ordeal similar to the one that shaped him. He reveals that Valerie was another Larkhill prisoner who died in the cell next to his; the letter that Evey read is the same one that Valerie had passed on to V to read. Evey's anger finally gives way to acceptance of her identity and freedom.

November 1998. V destroys the Party's communication and surveillance centres (housed in Jordan Tower and the Post Office Tower), causing the death of Etheridge, effectively shutting down both The Eye and The Ear and spurring a wave of wanton violence and hedonism which is violently suppressed by Creedy's street gangs. Meanwhile, V notes to Evey that this is not The Land of Do-As-You-Please end result he wants, but rather it's mere chaos in The Land of Take What You Want — an interim period that he intends to follow up with the establishment of true anarchy, a voluntarily orderly society. Finch's assistant Dominic realizes that V has had access to the Fate computer since the very beginning, explaining his foresight; this news accelerates the mental collapse of the Leader.

Finch travels to the abandoned site of Larkhill, on the Wiltshire Downs, where he takes LSD. His hallucinations lead him to an intuitive understanding of V, and returning to London, he deduces that V is hidden somewhere in Victoria Station, part of the abandoned London Underground, and goes to find him. V, who knows his time has come to an end, meets Finch and lets Finch shoot him. The bleeding V flees and dies in Evey's arms. Evey considers unmasking V, but decides not to learn his identity; instead, she assumes it, donning one of his spare costumes. Meanwhile, Rose Almond's private vendetta has led her to assassinate the Leader and she is last seen being taken by the Finger. In the ensuing chaos, Creedy's own men kill him, while Finch reports the news that V is dead. When Evey appears to the crowd as V, a general insurrection begins.

Evey completes V's final act of subversion. As requested by V, she performs the destruction of 10 Downing Street by giving her mentor a "Viking funeral" with an explosive-laden Underground carriage containing his body sent to detonate at the desired location. She rescues Dominic from the mob and takes him back to the Shadow Gallery, implying that she intends to train him as her successor, having vowed to help the people to create the society the original V dreamed of creating. Having removed the totalitarian old regime, there is no longer a need for destruction. Finch observes the chaos raging in the city before heading to the countryside. All forms of authority in Britain are now gone; its future is left uncertain. Thus, V has created chaos, which will allow voluntary order to occur. It is to be assumed that Evey will do her best to prevent another imperialistic government from arising from this order."

(that was the "Vendetta" section)

And here's more on the roman numeral V......

"

* When V is shot, he leaves a trail of blood on the wall as he falls; in the shape of a letter V.* Valerie's letter has 5 pages.* The title "V for Vendetta" contains 5 syllables.* The title of each chapter begins with the letter V.* The character V is seen reading and quoting from Thomas Pynchon's novel, V.* In the film adaptation V is shot 5 times before killing Creedy* Beethoven's fifth symphony is used in the book and noted for the prominent use of three short notes and one long, which is the Morse Code identifier for the letter V. This code was used as a call sign by the BBC during World War II, most famously in the sense of V for Victory.* Evey's name is composed of "E" (the fifth letter of the alphabet), "V" (5 in Roman numerals, and the fifth letter from the end of the alphabet), and "Y" (25th letter of the alphabet, or 5 squared). The woman who dies in the cell next to that of V at Larkhill is named Valerie Page.* In the original comic, V leaves a violet carson after he kills someone.* The publisher is Vertigo-which begins with a V* V is eventually identified as the prisoner from Room 5 at Larkhill Internment Camp. The five doors are labeled with Roman numerals, so Room 5 is emblazoned with a "V". The number 5, when converted to binary numerals, is 101 (a possible allusion to the infamous torture room 101 in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, which has 5 syllables).* V's hideout is accessed from the closed Victoria tube station, the damaged sign of which resembles a sideways V when Finch locates it.* V's personal motto consists of the Latin phrase Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe), which in turn consists of five words that begin with the letter V ("U" is written as "V" in Latin). Aleister Crowley also used the phrase as one of his personal mottos, a fact that appears in Alan Moore's later book Promethea. But V mentions only the origin of the phrase in Faust.* November is the only month in the Gregorian calendar with the letter V in it.* As Evey appears to give her speech to the public after she has assumed the identity of V, the visual angle of the frame causes a V to be formed between the edges of the building she is standing on and the building behind her.* The government consists of the five branches which are identified with the five senses* At Larkhill, V is injected with Batch "5", or in Roman numerals, Batch "V"* In the graphic novel, V prepares his revenge for 5 years, but this was changed to twenty years in the film version* Evey's birthday is in September, so her zodiac sign is probably Virgo which starts with V.* Guy Fawkes Day happens on November 5* "Shadow Gallery", V's hideout, is five syllables* When Evey asks what V is waiting on late in the book, he answers "I'm waiting for the man." The title of a Velvet Underground & Nico song* Codename V's Last word, at the end of the novel, starts with a V.* November the 5th or 5th of November has 5 syllables.* V Kills 5 main characters in the film. (Bishop Lilinman, Delia Surdridge, Prothero, Creedy, and Adam J. Susan) All but Creedy's name contain 5 syllables.* Much of V's dialogue is in Iambic Pentameter."

Sigh. I don't believe it's word for word, but much of it is the same.

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#28  Edited By shatterstar  Moderator

BTW even more helpful than pointing out the plagiarism would be to edit out or reword the plagiarized text in the entry. Be sure to leave a note in the comments field if you do so the moderator knows whats going on.

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#29  Edited By NiteFly

The Speedster says:

"Were aloud to read something from another website then re write it and put it on here right?"

Some do, but personally I believe it to be a dangerous prospect. As long as information is put in your own voice (pretty much synthesizing the information you find and re-writing it) I think everyone would see it as fine. Another advantage to this is the ability to combine the info from a variety of sources to produce something better than all of them. This can be a lot of work, and I find it difficult to do without accidentally incorporating someone else's words into my writing. Personally at least 90% of what I write comes either directly from a primary source or my own recollection, with some facts supplemented (for instance I may find it difficult to remember the specific order of a sequence of events or something like that) with clarification from somewhere else.

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#31  Edited By zero edge

WOW!!!!!!! That is massive point whoring. Good job copy pasting this part

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There's so many wrong things about this. First of all, the ENEMIES AND FRIENDS PAGE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT ENEMIES AND FRIENDS OF CHARACTER ADDED IN THE ENEMIES AND FRIENDS SECTION. (I.E. Iron Man's enemies should not be put in the Iron Man box, that box is for the reason why Iron Man and Madame Masque are enemies.) Looks like we're going to have to talk to G-Man about rolling these back.

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#33  Edited By Starleafgirl

Check to see what else he's done as well, I don't think his points should count for anything he's done like this... It's totally ridiculous to be copying and pasting all that stuff... it's obvious it was copied and pasted multiple times because of that part zero_edge pointed out.

Also, maybe there should be a Moderators+Administrators only forum for this kind of stuff? I think pointing out individuals' point-whoring behavior belongs on a private board of some sort.

...unless the point is for us to all point, harass, and laugh at said individuals. In that case, nevermind. ;D

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#34  Edited By zero edge

We'll have a mod forum in the update.

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#35  Edited By Starleafgirl

zero edge says:

"We'll have a mod forum in the update."

Oh, okay, great! :)

So, um, I was going through Eradicator's Contributions page and noticed a lot of pages had identical point counts... and almost every page I went to, in the Enemies (sometimes Friends) section, was a large (not as large as the Iron Man one, obviously) description of one or more superheroes. Should these points be allowed to count? I don't know, but zero_edge suggested I post them here.

I'm in the middle of a huge take-home exam, but even if I wasn't, I'm not sure if anyone would like to go systematically through his Contributions and see what's what, lol, so here's just a few:

Klaw and Selene:


" />http://www.comicvine.com/x-men/3173/enemies/

Iron Man and Captain America:

http://www.comicvine.com/x-men/3173/friends/

Klaw and Venom:


" />http://www.comicvine.com/code-blue/9483/enemies/

Daredevil:

http://www.comicvine.com/code-blue/9483/friends/

Iron Man, Black Widow, Captain America, and Daredevil:

http://www.comicvine.com/x-statix/11485/friends/

Black Widow, Captain America, and Hercules:

http://www.comicvine.com/gatherers/29919/enemies/

Captain America, Hercules, and Luke Cage:

http://www.comicvine.com/acolytes/9730/enemies/

You'll see the longer descriptions in Enemies including but probably not limited to U.S. Agent, Ultron, and Blackbolt as well. Again, this is just the tip of the iceberg, I don't have time to look at everything and, because I don't know if these "contributions" are even that offensive (to people who write profiles instead of copying and pasting between various profiles), I don't know if anything will even be done about these let alone the rest of them.

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#36  Edited By Sparda

Y'know, I hate to say this, but maybe that's where a good amount of his (high) points came from?

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#37  Edited By shatterstar  Moderator

I saw that sub earlier, left it there for the other mods to see, I thought they'd get a kick out of that. Whats funny is I know that while he was going through the pre-1000 point live edit process I explained the purpose of the friends/enemies pages, yet those blurbs and the excessive expository overviews are all over those subs.

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#38  Edited By fesak  Moderator

Shatterstar says:

"I saw that sub earlier, left it there for the other mods to see, I thought they'd get a kick out of that. Whats funny is I know that while he was going through the pre-1000 point live edit process I explained the purpose of the friends/enemies pages, yet those blurbs and the excessive expository overviews are all over those subs. "

Now that you mention it, i explained the same thing. So it can't really be a misunderstanding.

Edit:

Check out Nick Fury's or Iron Man's Friends & Family and Enemies pages.


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#39  Edited By shatterstar  Moderator

Looks like abuse of live edit privileges to me.

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#40  Edited By Eradicator

zero edge says:

"WOW!!!!!!! That is massive point whoring. Good job copy pasting this part There's so many wrong things about this. First of all, the ENEMIES AND FRIENDS PAGE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT ENEMIES AND FRIENDS OF CHARACTER ADDED IN THE ENEMIES AND FRIENDS SECTION. (I.E. Iron Man's enemies should not be put in the Iron Man box, that box is for the reason why Iron Man and Madame Masque are enemies.) Looks like we're going to have to talk to G-Man about rolling these back."

That was a complete accident, as soon as that saved I wrote Methos and explained it, I was having problems with my computer. I went back and made the corrections and they took away the points for it, which is exactly what I wanted. I did not mean for that to happen, I didn't even know it did that until afterward when I went back to Iron Man's page. I did let a mod know asap.

as far the friends and enemies go, I just got more in depth with their bios, and most of them were blank when I posted on them. If you guys want to dock points or whatever, go ahead. I was doing it because I enjoyed updating all the pages. The points thing isn't a big deal. I was just hustling, I have built quite a few pages for characters as well. Oh, by the way, no one explained anything to me until Zero Edge sent me a PM the other day. You guys do what you got to do, but I am not trying to hide anything I've done.

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#41  Edited By fesak  Moderator

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#42  Edited By Eradicator

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#43  Edited By Ms. Invisible

There's always the door if you don't like it.

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#44  Edited By Ms. Invisible
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#46  Edited By Ms. Invisible

Oh and the whole "Powers" bit, where it explains his powers. Sorry for not pointing that out.

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#47  Edited By Methos

right, i'll get that bit in a sec

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#48  Edited By Eradicator

Ms. Invisible says:

"There's always the door if you don't like it."

mind you business junior, i never asked for your opinion,

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#49  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Eradicator says:

"Ms. Invisible says:
"There's always the door if you don't like it."

mind you business junior, i never asked for your opinion,

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Then you shouldn't have posted yours. Dont take it out on her cause you got caught plagiarizing.
Post Edited:2007-12-14 16:11:00