Why are Two-Face from Batman TAS and Lex Luthor black?

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#1  Edited By ganon15

Both look African-American, especially Two-Face.

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They're not. They just have more defined lips and tans.

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maybe two face but not lex

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@ganon15: Two-Face doesn't even look black.

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Two Face doesn't look black..more like Italian...as for Lex, I'd say he's more mixed, or has a really good tan.

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#6  Edited By ganon15
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Harvey Dent has afro-hair:

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@ganon15 said:
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Harvey Dent has afro-hair:

That...that's not afro hair at all. Get yo eyes checked.

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@decoyelite: Yes it is, Coupled with pronounced lips he's most likely black.

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@ganon15 said:

@decoyelite: Yes it is, Coupled with pronounced lips he's most likely black.

No it's not. And white people can have pronounced lips. Most importantly he doesn't look black, his skin tone is tan at best.

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@ganon15 said:

@decoyelite: Yes it is, Coupled with pronounced lips he's most likely black.

No it's not. And white people can have pronounced lips. Most importantly he doesn't look black, his skin tone is tan at best.

He has AFRICAN hair!

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@ganon15 said:

@decoyelite said:

@ganon15 said:

@decoyelite: Yes it is, Coupled with pronounced lips he's most likely black.

No it's not. And white people can have pronounced lips. Most importantly he doesn't look black, his skin tone is tan at best.

He has AFRICAN hair!

Not REALLY!

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#13  Edited By ganon15

@decoyelite: He was played by Billy Dee Williams in Batman(1989), so why is it so hard to see Harvey Dent black again?

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@ganon15 said:

@decoyelite: He was played by Billy Dee Williams in Batman(1989), so why is it so hard to see Harvey Dent black again?

I don't care if the character is portrayed as black, I simply don't think he was in BTAS.

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@ganon15: I know lots of frizzy haired white people and why exactly do you think Lex was black? He doesn't even look vaguely black.

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#16  Edited By ganon15

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@ganon15 said:

@decoyelite: He was played by Billy Dee Williams in Batman(1989), so why is it so hard to see Harvey Dent black again?

I don't care if the character is portrayed as black, I simply don't think he was in BTAS.

You racist, mate? LOL What's wrong if he's black? What if he was?

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@ganon15: Nothing. I just don't think he was. Although on the subject of Billy Dee Williams as Harvey, he was actually going to be Two-Face but then some changes with just who was in charge of the Batman films caused him to lose the part. Would have been interesting to see his rendition of the character.

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@joshmightbe: His dark skin, his face structure, his lips, his voice(yes I know Clancy Brown voiced him but still)

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@ganon15: Its not racist to say a dude who is clearly white is white.

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I always thought Harvey looked liked Chevy Chase when he was younger.

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@joshmightbe: He's not clearly white, he kinda looks like OJ Simpson slightly lighter.

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@ganon15: He is not slightly lighter than OJ, dude is paler than my wife and she's Irish

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@joshmightbe: Look at him standing next to Bruce, he looks black! or atleast mixed

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#24  Edited By joshmightbe

@ganon15: He looks the same color as Bruce.

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#25  Edited By ganon15

@joshmightbe: I'm saying his features! not the bloke's skin!

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Who ****ing cares?

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#27  Edited By joshmightbe

@ganon15: Saying the dude is black because he has big lips is kind of racist

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#28  Edited By ganon15

@joshmightbe: Not only his lips, his hair and face too!

You're gonna tell me the man on the right looks white? LOL

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And yes I know he was modeled on Telly Salavas, but he still came out looking African American.

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@ganon15: He doesn't have any feature that are really black specific, in fact I'd say the guy looks Russian to me.

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#30  Edited By ganon15

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@ganon15: He doesn't have any feature that are really black specific, in fact I'd say the guy looks Russian to me.

LOL Russian?!! I've never seen a caucasian Russian that black. Lol

Here's a better picture if you're still not convinced he's not white:

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Your threads give me cancer

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#32  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

Neither of them are black. Lex was modeled after an greek James Bond villain. Two face was supposed to be italian.

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#33  Edited By ganon15

@peppeyhare said:

Your threads give me cancer

Thanks, it means a lot to me.

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@ganon15: He has white skin, he was modeled after an actual white person, Lex is white. Just because you have this racist belief that only black people have thick lips doesn't change the fact that they're both clearly white.

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@joshmightbe: I'm not racist, he looks black and I'm calling it like I see it. I know I'm not the only one who thinks he looks black.

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@ganon15 said:

@joshmightbe: I'm not racist, he looks black and I'm calling it like I see it. I know I'm not the only one who thinks he looks black.

you're a little racist, i mean "AFRICAN HAIR"....really?

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#37  Edited By ganon15

@avenging_x_bolt: He has sub-saharan afro hair, not trying to be racist, that's just how his hair looks!

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I used to think that too when I was younger lol

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@ganon15: Well any race can have features typically associated with black people since every human on Earth is descended from black people because they were the original humans. There are people of all races with "Afro" looking hair and thick lips, just like there are thin lipped black people with straight hair.

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#40  Edited By cattlebattle

I personally always thought Harvey Dent was meant to be black to reflect the Batman film...where Harvey Dent was played by a black man. Also to give some ethnicity to the primarily white Batman TAS cast.

Lex Luthor on the other hand is white. He was modeled after actor Telly Savalas, particularly his performance in the James Bond film "On her Majestys Secret Service"

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#41  Edited By ganon15

@cattlebattle: I can't argue with that. Thanks for an answer that doesn't have "you" and "are" and "a racist, ganon15". And I was right! Harvey was black in TAS. Billy Zane looks more like TAS Lex though.

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I thought Lex was black when I saw Superman as a kid but it doesn't matter either way I would hope.

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#43  Edited By ganon15

@immortal777: Exactly, he looked like a dark Billy Zane. lol

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#44  Edited By mikex20

I think Two-Face was supposed to be Italian, he has the same skin tone and features as the rest of the mobsters in the series. Lex looks kind of racially ambiguous.

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Till this day, we'll never know what exactly BTAS Harvey Dent was.

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HARVEY DENT IS CLEARLY ITALIAN...... maybe you have a problem distinguishing nationality, but I don't

thats not an afro its thick coarse italian hair. its even combed straight (and across)

he acts italian american he looks italian american, he even talks (very slightly) a little with an italian emphasis

(I think Harvey is supposed to be Italian American in the comic too.... to juxtapose against the Italian mobsters he was fighting)

Lex Luthor..... ok he looks a little black.... but frankly I don't care if he is or not.... it doesn't matter He and his voice are awesome and are drawn as such.

if they drew him like Gene Hackman... he would hilarious.... and just plain stupid looking... I like him better....well tanned? black? again doesn't matter.

(are you going to freak out about Kingpin now....) flippin racist...

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@ganon15: I always liked to think that he had a really good tan when I was growing up with the show. Lol.

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@bierschneeman: Here we go with calling me racist AGAIN. OK I get it, they may or may not be black.

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@ganon15 said:

@joshmightbe said:

@ganon15: He doesn't have any feature that are really black specific, in fact I'd say the guy looks Russian to me.

LOL Russian?!! I've never seen a caucasian Russian that black. Lol

Here's a better picture if you're still not convinced he's not white:

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It's just the lighting that makes him look darker.

The more pressing question should be...

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...why is Superman Asian? Dude wears glasses and everything.