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Posted by darkman61288 (730 posts) 10 months, 10 days ago

Poll: Would you read a Batman/Wonder Woman teamup book? (119 votes)

Yes 38%
No 61%

With SM/WW now out and BM/SM also out, will there or should there be a Batman/ Wonder Woman title? Me, I would love one. I would like to see them fighting crime together. The book would show us different sides of the characters that we haven't really seen yet. Batman fighting the supernatural and Wonder Woman being a detective. I would also like to see some sexual tension between them and hopefully a romance. Well what do you think?

#1 Posted by PapiNacho (2377 posts) - - Show Bio

I would read the shit out of it.

#2 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

If it had a good creative team

#3 Posted by JetiiMitra (8478 posts) - - Show Bio

No, I wouldn't.

#4 Posted by RustyRoy (11974 posts) - - Show Bio

If it had a good creative team

This, but possibly no and I don't want to see any sexual tension or romance. She's Supes GF and He is Supes close friend, so no romance, and I'd prefer a Batman/Zatanna ongoing than a BM/WW book. Just because there's a SM/WW and BM/SM book doesn't mean there's need to be a BM/WW book.

#5 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, but I wouldn't read it on a monthly basis due to lack of funds.

#6 Posted by Bruxae (13341 posts) - - Show Bio

As a fan of both, no way.. They just dont match.

#7 Edited by darkman61288 (730 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

@peppeyhare said:

If it had a good creative team

This, but possibly no and I don't want to see any sexual tension or romance. She's Supes GF and He is Supes close friend, so no romance, and I'd prefer a Batman/Zatanna ongoing than a BM/WW book. Just because there's a SM/WW and BM/SM book doesn't mean there's need to be a BM/WW book.

I thought you hated the power couple.

#8 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11337 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely, yes. I've been wanting a Batman/Wonder Woman SOMETHING since their relationship in the DCU. I have a feeling the creative team of SM/WW will get me to love them (issue 1 was awesome) so for now I'm content but BM/WW thing is something I've been wanting for what feels like ever.

Yeah, I guess I'm weird like that, but eh oh well.

#9 Posted by darkman61288 (730 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely, yes. I've been wanting a Batman/Wonder Woman SOMETHING since their relationship in the DCU. I have a feeling the creative team of SM/WW will get me to love them (issue 1 was awesome) so for now I'm content but BM/WW thing is something I've been wanting for what feels like ever.

Yeah, I guess I'm weird like that, but eh oh well.

No not you too.

#10 Posted by RustyRoy (11974 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought you hated the power couple.

Which power couple? Superman and WW? I still hate it.

#11 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11337 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkman61288: I originally wasn't on board with their relationship but the book is only one issue in and it has me on board. I'm gonna ride it out and enjoy it.

#12 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6102 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually brought this up in another thread but hells ya I would.

#13 Posted by darkman61288 (730 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

Another WW book, yes. WW/ Batman book, no.

#15 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6102 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by darkman61288 (730 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_: Why? Afraid that it would sell more and would end the SM/WW romance.

#17 Posted by Azrael_Online (186 posts) - - Show Bio

If there was no romance than the awkwardness alone with make for a humorous read

#18 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2229 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell yeah

#19 Posted by WIshIWasSuperman (1351 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't see this working. The power dynamic is too large between them and they don't have the friendship (at least not to me) that Superman and Batman have. At least with SM/WW if there is a major threat they're on the same level and can contribute equally. Any threat that Batman faces will either be well below WW (in which case she jobs to make it more relevant) or it's way above what he's capable of (in which case he becomes the Batgod from JLU). So from a challenge side it couldn't work - so then what becomes the focus? The relationship? What relationship? In N52 there's no relationship that they've pointed too so how would this work?

Anyway... that's me.

#21 Posted by Pokeysteve (8245 posts) - - Show Bio

@bruxae: Finally someone else who sees how different they are.

As for the thread, I'd read Twilight if she was in it...

#22 Posted by JonSmith (3996 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't see this working. The power dynamic is too large between them and they don't have the friendship (at least not to me) that Superman and Batman have. At least with SM/WW if there is a major threat they're on the same level and can contribute equally. Any threat that Batman faces will either be well below WW (in which case she jobs to make it more relevant) or it's way above what he's capable of (in which case he becomes the Batgod from JLU). So from a challenge side it couldn't work - so then what becomes the focus? The relationship? What relationship? In N52 there's no relationship that they've pointed too so how would this work?

Anyway... that's me.

The challenge can be delegated the same way it is with Batman/Superman: Wonder Woman doesn't have Batman's detective skills, she can't read a crime scene, in that way, she's even less competent than Superman, since she doesn't have his super senses.

So perhaps a magical crime series, in the style of something Constantine might handle? Say some Greek cultists have come to Gotham, and are killing people in rituals. Batman is stumped because the people appear to die of a heart attack, and bleed through their skin. Wonder Woman is tracking the cultists, and tracks them to Gotham, but in the big city, can't track or find them. So her and Bats team up. They can fight equally against thugs, so Batman can get some exercise as they search.

When they find the cultists, say they succeed in completing their ritual and summoning something from the Underworld, which possesses the leader, putting him on par with Wonder Woman in strength, and functionally invulnerable/immortal. In order to defeat him, they have to research a counter ritual to strip him of his immortality, which they don't know, so Batman has to dive into that research.

There. You've got a common enemy to unite them, enemies Wonder Woman can do her thing with if the cultists summon smaller monsters, Batman outside his comfort zone against magic, and still useful with the detective work, and given the variable enemy strength, still could be useful in a combat situation. There's your first arc.

#23 Posted by WIshIWasSuperman (1351 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonsmith: Honestly - I just wouldn't find it interesting. I personally hate when they do magic/supernatural based stuff in Batman. Secondly WW just got downgraded because she was capable of tracking things to Gotham (based on that statement I assume she had come across things earlier) and yet once in Gotham the city is just to big for her, because what, she's just some girl? She's incapable of tracking things once it's in Gotham? So as I said - she needs to job to make Batman more relevant. Also while she's fighting this demon possessed leader guy - what exactly is Batman doing? Just sitting it out? Doing the counter-spell? Also, just as an FYI - this was done already with Batman & Superman in one of those little stories they chuck in the back of the solo series - can't remember the issues but a demon was summoned, Supe's fought it while Batman figured out the counter-spell to get rid of it and bobs-your-uncle, story done. It happened just after Damien died. The best part of the story was again seeing the relationship dynamic between the two - which at least from what I've seen doesn't exist with Bruce/Dianna in N52 and they don't seem to be building it. If anything they're more in opposition with each other (based on the JL series anyway).

What I personally enjoy about the Batman/Superman stuff is the relationship. Seeing it develop or how they view each other, etc.. for that reason I'll over-look that one of them is jobbing to make the other better or whatever. And sometimes they genuinely do a good job of leveling the two out (for example Supe's has enough weaknesses that Batman can become relevant - WW doesn't have this issue that I'm aware of). Also the "detective" work of Batman/Bruce isn't something Clark/Superman usually leverages either, it has happened but not often enough that it becomes the reason for them teaming up.

#24 Posted by akintoussaint (106 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: It's because of their differences thats people like them together.The whole opposites attract rule and all that jazz.Same reason why people like Beast Boy and Raven together

#25 Posted by Catsnlynne (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

Since I don't like Batman or Wonder Woman, I voted no.

#26 Posted by toplel (906 posts) - - Show Bio

@wishiwassuperman: Since when did powerlevels decide the quality of a story? BM/SM, as you stated, has the appeal of their bromance coupled with them doing what they do best while occasionally being pushed out of their comfort zones. With either a BM/SM or a BM/WW team up, you'd have a variation in the skill set of the characters that the other finds useful. I'll agree that the latter team up lacks the camaraderie they had before the reboot since DC insist she be PMS'ing anyone who isn't Superman, but looking at the first arc of the BM/SM book, you can work off of that too and gradually develop and understanding and respect between the characters.

#27 Edited by WIshIWasSuperman (1351 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel: the power difference doesn't mean it can't have an interesting story, anything can have an interesting story with a good enough writer. I'm just saying that for me, I would have little interest in it, as there's no underlying relationship (at least for now) to play off, considering the power difference. BM/SM is being used to build a relationship that has been referenced in other material already. Also, in terms of physical challenges, they found a way to evenly match things up and portray it. Also, we're only talking 4 issues, it could easily devolve into mindless stuff that see again, Superman jobbing and/or the Batgod resurfacing. It also had an intentional tie-in with Earth 2. Not saying the same can't be done, BUT if they did, they'd Just be doing the same story type and swapping a character (much like the previous suggeation).

Maybe I'm being closed-minded to the idea, but yeah for me it holds little interest and right now at least I don't think it would serve any real purpose. Maybe in the future in some capacity, who knows, but right now I don't see it working overly well. SM/WW holds interest due to their existing relationship. SM/BM holds interest due to their relationship and the fact they are the two leading characters of the entire DC universe. WW/BM just doesn't have it IMO.

#28 Posted by darkman61288 (730 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel: the power difference doesn't mean it can't have an interesting story, anything can have an interesting story with a good enough writer. I'm just saying that for me, I would have little interest in it, as there's no underlying relationship (at least for now) to play off, considering the power difference. BM/SM is being used to build a relationship that has been referenced in other material already. Also, in terms of physical challenges, they found a way to evenly match things up and portray it. Also, we're only talking 4 issues, it could easily devolve into mindless stuff that see again, Superman jobbing and/or the Batgod resurfacing. It also had an intentional tie-in with Earth 2. Not saying the same can't be done, BUT if they did, they'd Just be doing the same story type and swapping a character (much like the previous suggestion).

Maybe I'm being closed-minded to the idea, but yeah for me it holds little interest and right now at least I don't think it would serve any real purpose. Maybe in the future in some capacity, who knows, but right now I don't see it working overly well. SM/WW holds interest due to their existing relationship. SM/BM holds interest due to their relationship and the fact they are the two leading characters of the entire DC universe. WW/BM just doesn't have it IMO.


That is what DC is doing with Superman/Wonder Woman. Subing Wonder Woman for Batman. So why can't it be the Superman who is subbed? The book could be used to start the development of their relationship weather it be romantic of not. Batman becomes involved in a case involving Greek mythology or WW gets involved with the League of Assassins and Bm or WW needs the others help could be the set-up. They talk get to know each other a little better. They decided to starting together more one thing leads to another.

#29 Edited by noj (1078 posts) - - Show Bio

I would totally read it it would complete the Trinity. Batman/Superman, Superman/Wonder Woman and Wonder Woman/Batman. As long as WW got the top billing to make finish the pattern I'll be happy. It would be even cooler if Brian Azarello wrote it. He been proven to be an awesome Batman writer and an amazing Wonder Woman writer.

#30 Posted by baneofdemon22 (159 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely! I love both characters. I would be curious to see how their dynamic would be without Superman's intervention. I loved their relationship in the Justice League animated series.

#31 Edited by TazzMission (5488 posts) - - Show Bio

id rather have a wonder woman movie first. i already have a ideal casting.

maggie siff from mad men plus sons of anarchy for wonder woman

#32 Edited by Tamal_Kundu (35 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd read the heck out of it. Just lets hope they don't bring John's characterization into it. They can do it what Simone and Wood are doing with Conan and Sonja. Bring Azz, and Snyder under one title, to get the characters right.

If only wishes were pennies....

#33 Posted by THORSON (2357 posts) - - Show Bio

fk batman.

#34 Edited by Omnicrono (1769 posts) - - Show Bio

If done right, yes.

And yes, I certainly believe a story centering on these two characters could be done in a way that works well.

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#35 Posted by CaptainUzi (1679 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, why not.

#36 Posted by darkman61288 (730 posts) - - Show Bio

Who should write BM/WW?

#37 Edited by Farkam (4875 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm bored of Batman and I don't care about WW.

#38 Edited by MaccyD (3956 posts) - - Show Bio

The more WW the better!

Plus their mentalities are similar so the relationship would be a major factor in the book.

#39 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@noj said:

I would totally read it it would complete the Trinity. Batman/Superman, Superman/Wonder Woman and Wonder Woman/Batman. As long as WW got the top billing to make finish the pattern I'll be happy. It would be even cooler if Brian Azarello wrote it. He been proven to be an awesome Batman writer and an amazing Wonder Woman writer.

azzarello amazing WW writter?,only if you like her being a witness,a supporting character,naive,pasive and weak.

#40 Posted by BloodTalon (431 posts) - - Show Bio

I would not get this book and I am tiered of BM a new WW solo book and I am in but not this.

#41 Posted by noj (1078 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Well considering I didnt give two shits about her before Azarellos run I guess I do.

#42 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@noj said:

@gokuwarrior: Well considering I didnt give two shits about her before Azarellos run I guess I do.

so sad,because WW was a much better character before azzarello,he will never come close to perez run,a true piece of art.

#43 Posted by TDK_1997 (14680 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman/Wonder Woman book is a way better idea for a team-up book for me rather then Superman and WW.Both of the characters match way more for me and I would care for a relationship between them way more.And also if this book gets a great creative like Azzarello on writing and Jim Lee on art duties then this would be a must read for me.

#44 Posted by Mercy_ (92680 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell yes.

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#45 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17918 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

Batman/Wonder Woman book is a way better idea for a team-up book for me rather then Superman and WW.Both of the characters match way more for me and I would care for a relationship between them way more.And also if this book gets a great creative like Azzarello on writing and Jim Lee on art duties then this would be a must read for me.

@mercy_ said:

Hell yes.

Absolutely! I love both characters. I would be curious to see how their dynamic would be without Superman's intervention. I loved their relationship in the Justice League animated series.

All of this.

But noooo, we get this garbage instead...

that's right, let this sink in nicely.

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#46 Posted by TDK_1997 (14680 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: At least we get something.And even though I was really sceptical about the title, the first issue wasn't that bad.But I still prefer a Batman/Wonder Woman book instead of this.

#47 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17918 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@theacidskull: At least we get something.And even though I was really sceptical about the title, the first issue wasn't that bad.But I still prefer a Batman/Wonder Woman book instead of this.

it might not have been badly written but the pairing does not work. For me, it feels as if Supes and Diana are siblings, in short, it's weird.

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#48 Posted by Marionettegeist (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@theacidskull: At least we get something.And even though I was really sceptical about the title, the first issue wasn't that bad.But I still prefer a Batman/Wonder Woman book instead of this.

it might not have been badly written but the pairing does not work. For me, it feels as if Supes and Diana are siblings, in short, it's weird.

Yeah I get that sibling vibe from it too. I also don't really like it when they just take the strongest girl, and strongest guy, and pair them up for no real reason.

#49 Posted by Kiltro95 (295 posts) - - Show Bio

If they have the same chemistry as they did in the Justice League cartoon sure, not only that but with the possibility of Batman and Wonder Woman falling for each other it can drive a wedge in Superman and Batman's relationship.

#50 Posted by Akindoodle (1007 posts) - - Show Bio

If there was no romance than the awkwardness alone with make for a humorous read