Why didn't Darth Vader ever attempt to kill the Emporer?

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#1  Edited By Jeronimo

Did Obi-Wan cut off Anakin's cajones too? 
 
Why didn't Vader ever take a stab at the Emporer himself? Once Padme was dead, Anakin had no use for Sidious. 
 
Anakin > Dooku > Windu > Sidious in lightsaber duels. 
 
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#2  Edited By LT1085

Because George Lucas is a hack. Also, the emperor was leading him on with the promise of teaching him how to raise the dead(his mother) with the force, so it makes sense if you think of it that way (but it also makes Anakin a gullible subordinate). Did I mention that George Lucas is a hack?

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#3  Edited By OldManDuncan

The only thing I can think of is fear for the emperor. Or he had more to teach Vader about the ways of the dark side.

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My Dad had always told me that the emperor was keeping him alive, so vader died when the emperor died

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#5  Edited By Calvin
@Jeronimo:  Because he had nothing left for him than the Republic. We know that he believed in the Republic but was disappointed with diplomacy because of the slave situation and wars and such. He wanted somebody to make people do " what is best for them". My guess is he thought the Emperor was the best shot. Although if you notice he was always inviting people to join him in overpowering the Emperor and ruling the universe. - Deep down he knew the Emperor was evil. - He just didn't want to do things alone, I guess. If you think about it he always had support in his live to make decisions. Qui-gon, Amidala, Obi-Wan... and he only finally confronted the Emperor because of Luke. He needed someone supporting, motivating him to action. 
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#6  Edited By Green Skin

Ummm....he did kill the Emperor.  Ever see the end of Jedi?

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#7  Edited By LT1085
@primepower53 said:
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My Dad had always told me that the emperor was keeping him alive, so vader died when the emperor died

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You're Dad was wrong.
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#8  Edited By Dracade102

Because The Emperor Promised he'd teach him how to keep people from dying... Then they both Magically Forgot at the End of Episode III.
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#9  Edited By DeathpooltheT1000

Because Vader need some one to study the force and know how to beat dead.

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#10  Edited By BiteMe-Fanboy

Well after making an ass out of himself and allowing Windu to die, killing all those young padawans, fighting Obi-wan to near death, and THEN Padme still dieing he might as well just stay at the emperors side.
Plus Vader didn't want none of the Emperor. The Emperor would stomp Vader easily. It cost him his life when he killed him in ROTJ.

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#11  Edited By Joey Ravn
@Jeronimo said:
" Did Obi-Wan cut off Anakin's cajones too"
For future reference, in Spanish: cajones = drawers, cojones = balls. 
 
:P
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@LT1085:
So he just happened to die right as the emperor died? That always confused me.  
But this is just what I grew up with.
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#13  Edited By JoeyArnold
@Green Skin: over 20 years passes before Vader took out the Emperor trash. Why the wait?
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#14  Edited By PrinceIMC
@JoeyArnold:

Vader was weak, his suit was keeping him alive something the Emperor could have easily exploited. A little bit of force lightning goes a long way to shorting out a life-support system...like the end of Jedi.
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#15  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt

Because the Emperor is about eight times stronger than Vader was at his prime? Vader's connection to the Force was greatly weakened after he lost his physical body, not to mention that he had no reason to try and prevent people from dying since he knew Padme would never forgive him for "killing her". The Emperor was the only thing he had left, his only friend in the world, why would he kill him? It was only when he discovered that he had a son that he saw the Emperor as the disease he really was.

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#16  Edited By JoeyArnold
@FadeToBlackBolt:  But why or how does Anakin Skywalker's accident, losing his limbs, weaken his force, or his ability to use the force, or his ability to learn more of the force, because isn't the force a matter of the mind, or of believe, and not dependent on matter, on size, on physical things, on Anakin's physical body, right?
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#17  Edited By KenTheProfile

then there would never have been a story.
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#18  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@JoeyArnold said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  But why or how does Anakin Skywalker's accident, losing his limbs, weaken his force, or his ability to use the force, or his ability to learn more of the force, because isn't the force a matter of the mind, or of believe, and not dependent on matter, on size, on physical things, on Anakin's physical body, right? "
Due to the nature of the Midi-chlorians (which are living beings inside living tissue) acting as a conduit for the Force, Anakin could no longer use any Force attack that was channeled through the hands (ala Force Lightning). The loss of much of his living tissue greatly diminished his force abilities, since the number of his Midi-chlorians was the reason for his immense power to begin with. Unlike someone like Yoda, Luke or the Emperor, whose connection to the Force was based more on belief and learned ability than natural talent.Ergo, when Anakin lost his birth-given advantage, he was crippled in terms of Force Power. 
It should be noted that even at his prime he wasn't the most powerful being anyway. A tired and emotionally devastated Obi-Wan Kenobi was able to match him in Force Ability and defeat him in Lightsaber combat.
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#19  Edited By AtPhantom
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @JoeyArnold said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  But why or how does Anakin Skywalker's accident, losing his limbs, weaken his force, or his ability to use the force, or his ability to learn more of the force, because isn't the force a matter of the mind, or of believe, and not dependent on matter, on size, on physical things, on Anakin's physical body, right? "
Because George Lucas is a hack. "
Fixed it for you. :P
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#20  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@AtPhantom said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @JoeyArnold said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt:  But why or how does Anakin Skywalker's accident, losing his limbs, weaken his force, or his ability to use the force, or his ability to learn more of the force, because isn't the force a matter of the mind, or of believe, and not dependent on matter, on size, on physical things, on Anakin's physical body, right? "
Because George Lucas is a hack. "
Fixed it for you. :P "
Haha, too damn true, mate. 
 
But the EU stuff (everything not written by Lucas or in the Force Unleashed) is fantastic ^_^
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#21  Edited By AtPhantom
@FadeToBlackBolt: I'll take your word for it since I haven't read any of it. Though from what I gather, there is just as revolt among the fans about some writers messing up EU as Lucas messing up prequels.
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#22  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@AtPhantom:  Yeah, that's true, but that's largely aimed at the storyline "Dark Empire" (Luke goes evil for practically no reason at all, the Emperor is cloned, Boba Fett is revealed to be alive). All kinds of stuff that makes you go O_O 
 
But for the most part, the EU is good.
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#23  Edited By sparks20002

@jeronimo: how can you put Dooku higher than windu and sidious? no way Dooku is higher than those 2, I think

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@calvin said:
@Jeronimo: Because he had nothing left for him than the Republic. We know that he believed in the Republic but was disappointed with diplomacy because of the slave situation and wars and such. He wanted somebody to make people do " what is best for them". My guess is he thought the Emperor was the best shot. Although if you notice he was always inviting people to join him in overpowering the Emperor and ruling the universe. - Deep down he knew the Emperor was evil. - He just didn't want to do things alone, I guess. If you think about it he always had support in his live to make decisions. Qui-gon, Amidala, Obi-Wan... and he only finally confronted the Emperor because of Luke. He needed someone supporting, motivating him to action.

This work for me.

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The sith rule of two.

"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."

―Darth Bane

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He has, many times. It's just that because the Emperor is too powerful (Trust me, he is), Vader never chooses to go head on with the Emperor without an apprentice. He needs to have an apprentice that is powerful with the Force. As seen in Star Wars: The Clone Wars, the Emperor easily defeated Darth Maul and his apprentice, Savage Oppress. And those two were very powerful Sith Lords. Darth Vader knows that the Emperor is more powerful than him so that's why he never tries. That does not mean he never thinks about overthrowing the Emperor to take control of the Empire. If he could, he would've done it a long time ago. That's why Darth Vader always looks for an apprentice such as Starkiller and the failed attempt, Luke.

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#27  Edited By silentbat

Because Vader is factually only 80% as powerful as the Emperor. He simply is outmatched and he knows it, which is why he raised Starkiller and why he tried to recruit Luke to aid him against the Emperor.

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#28  Edited By Yassassin

What'd be the end game to that? Before learning that Luke and Leia were alive, Annie really didn't have any incentive for killing Papa Palpatine. He didn't want to rule over the empire or anything like that, he just wanted to be a Jedi Master and be with the love of his life, and since none of that ain't happening, all he his is being Sidious enforcer. He's life is already devoid of meaning, killing papa would just devoid it of purpose.

Plus, Papatine ain't no punk b*tch.

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Vader isn't actually 80% of Palpetine.

If Vader tried to kill Sidious, he would have been one-shotted.

And Mace is not better than Sidious in sabers.

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@necromancer76:

Considering that Yoda couldn't one shot Dooku and Palps couldn't one shot Mace, I have trouble believeing Sidious would one shot Vader.

He'd dominate Vader for sure, but Vader isn't getting blitzed.

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@emperor339: Sidious could one-shot with lightning. Vader is weak to lighting and Sidious can already disintegrate people with lightning anyway.

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Because Sidious would disintegrate Vader.

There's a private board for Darth Vader... nice.