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Posted by Jekylhyde14

I applaud your ability to speak your mind. You're right to point out that there was a very serious change to superheroes and the way they dealt with problems post- WW II and comics code. However, I'm confused on how this is all a part of the leftist/socialist philosophy. Most of these changes came about during the Administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower who leaned right. The Comics Code Authority was created in response to Seduction of the Innocent and the US Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Delinquency which was created by a Republican Senator (again right-wing politics). The context for all this was McCarthyism and the Red Scare which was about the fear of Communism and Socialism which created the climate that allowed for the restrictions on the comics industry. This is all from American right-wing politics and has little to do with liberalism and socialism. In fact the 1950's arguably was one of the most right-wing decades in American history.

I'll agree that me and my fellow leftists have embraced the ideals of pacifism and have stood against things like the death penalty. I'd like to think this comes more from a place of wanting to see the best in humanity and believing in redemption along with the idea that the law can make mistakes more than being part of a totalitarian regime to destroy the individual and justice.

Again, I'm impressed by your ability to speak your mind and I believe you're obviously intelligent. I just don't buy the idea that this is part of socialist agenda.

Posted by NlGHTCRAWLER

@lykopis said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER:

LOL --- this is a joke. Don't take it as anything but one. It's the cretinish thing to do.

:/ She called me a cretin...

Posted by AtPhantom

@Khadija: This is just an observation, but so far, have you made a single topic which wasn't basically complaining how the medium isn't right wing and libertarian enough? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you're a 15 year old who just read Atlas Shrugged and fell in love with it. Correct?

In any case, the idea that Superheroes should take the law into their own hands and be "HARD men making HARD decisions" is, and always has been, crap. The whole point of the rule of law is to stop people from doing that, because doing that is a horrible idea. Yes, the system is flawed. Yes it has problems, but what you're suggesting is to battle corruption and crime with complete rejection of the system itself, which is anarchy. What you're also suggesting is that superheroes discard the moral notions that don't sit right with them (By them, I mean you) and so enforce their (your) own morality on society. Which is another horrible idea, because, you know, tyranny.

For further insight into why this would be a horrible idea, see Rorschach.

Posted by Jorgevy

oh boy, I knew I sensed the smell of something trollish in the morning. And here I was thinking it was the Rock cooking.

I don't really get the whole point of the post, I don't think it really leads to any conclusion other than that superheroes are "sissy" because of WW2 and CBA? whatever...

@Khadija said:

WW2 changed all that. Superhero comics, in order to be allowed to be printed, were more or less forced to convert into propaganda rags for the American and British murderers. What economic pressure didn't do brain-dead statist ideology did.

Can you explain this whole paragraph, specially the bold part? Because I don't really get it

Posted by lykopis

@NlGHTCRAWLER:

LOL --- this is a joke. Don't take it as anything but one. It's the cretinish thing to do.

Edited by Khadija

@NlGHTCRAWLER said:

@Khadija said:

It is out of these two events - WW2 and the Comics Code Authority - that we get the superhero who cooperates with the police, has moderately left-wing/pro-democracy political views and doesn't kill people who clearly deserve it. This is also why almost every exception to the rule ends up being a supervillain (Supreme Power comes to mind).

You are COMPLETELY wrong about this. I can name a tone of superheroes who don't fit this description.

Perhaps a better way to put this: This is why the big-two main Universes are filled with sissies and moral cowards who are mistakenly called heroes.

Anyway, I didn't intend to post this on the forum because I don't give a damn what you cretins think.

Posted by NlGHTCRAWLER

@Khadija said:

It is out of these two events - WW2 and the Comics Code Authority - that we get the superhero who cooperates with the police, has moderately left-wing/pro-democracy political views and doesn't kill people who clearly deserve it. This is also why almost every exception to the rule ends up being a supervillain (Supreme Power comes to mind).

You are COMPLETELY wrong about this. I can name a tone of superheroes who don't fit this description.