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Posted by jloneblackheart
@FoxxFireArt The worst they can say is they aren't interested at this time.
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Posted by FoxxFireArt

@Shotgun:

Manga are already in the database. I'm just suggesting an official staff reviewer.

Posted by Shotgun

Adding manga entries into ComicVine sounds like a great idea to me.

Posted by FoxxFireArt

@jloneblackheart said:

I always thought we should focus on manga as well. I always added and spotlighted them in the new releases. Now with AV not associated with us, I think it would be a good idea. There's no reason to think of manga and comics as separate.

Perhaps I should take the step of raising this question with the staff in either a PM or a question for the podcast? I'm not sure if any of them have seen this posting.

Posted by Strafe Prower

I think it's a good idea. Manga is still comics and it's just as big here as regular comics are. Anime Vice is no longer associated with CV, so there is no reason to direct people there IMO.

Edited by takashichea

I'm all for equality, and the next steps is to ignite passion in Japanese comics and other foreign comics in the forums by having discussions on it. Two or more Comic Vine members writing about their favorite manga might start up ripples, a manga revolution. Maybe in the near future, we'll have a staff member writing about manga since we have manga in the wiki database.

If people don't want read it, it's fine. Just don't make hateful comments against the fans who enjoy them. Comic Vine should cater to all people regardless of where the comic book is created.

A year ago, I didn't know Comic Vine had a strong manga database until I was hunting for Shaman King and Zetsubou Sensei manga covers on Google. I saw covers from Comic Vine. Comic Vine is pretty more flexible than Anime Vice since Anime Vice's scope is more restricted towards media from Japan and Korea due to the Manhwa books.

I don't hate Comic Vine or Anime Vice. In the end, I love both comics and manga. It wouldn't hurt to cover manga.

On an off tangent note, I wonder who plagiarized Shaman King's volume 2 page.

Or Kas and GL Bertron are the same person. I haven't contacted anyone here about that incident.

Edited by Hazlenaut

I feel that it is a terrible idea to narrow down that way. It is important to show all forms of comics. I think there is something that manga creators need to do to make single issues sell better and that is to make better covers. I am trying to break that wall but there is something holding it back. I or someone else should address sooner of all the obstacles that are causing the problem. I have taken care of the ones that whine of westernizing their work and proved them wrong but as I said before there is still more to do. It seems my time is short. There is allot that needs to be filled and with constant new comics it is not easy. I understand I try to fill in even though my grammar is a lot to be desired.

Posted by FoxxFireArt

@Hazlenaut said:

I reviewed Anaboshi manga which said to be a split universe of the anime series and I got psst because they said that showing allot boobs is what the manga readers want.

Yeah, becasue comic books are so restrained when it comes to breasts. =D

Anime Vice covers series from the Japanese aspect. Comic Vine I feel could concentrate more on the American publications. Something that English speaking readers could have easy access to reading. Cover some of the larger series and a few of the lesser known. The way the Comic Vine staff cover all the comics that are released in a single week.

Posted by Hazlenaut

Anime vice does all the Japanese animation including the porn, which is allot, so they have allot on their plate. The second is that anime can be very different from the original source remember Full Metal Alchemist. Third is that there are manga that have never received an animated series. Therefore it is our part to take care of. Manga is just Japanese for comics and there is a lot that needs to be filled. Sorry that I have messed up your comfort zones but there is a lot that needs to be filled.

I there are obscure ones which I felt need more praise or at least well establish information. I reviewed Anaboshi manga which said to be a split universe of the anime series and I got psst because they said that showing allot boobs is what the manga readers want. This was deep series when it was animated and very funny too but the manga… It seems that I have to fill out the information I am going to hate myself for doing it but it has to be done. Don’t worry I will keep it clean.

Posted by Deranged Midget

@FoxxFireArt: That's notable, the Indigo in my area has quite the section of Manga, although I know very little so I don't know how updated it is. Both Indigo and my LCS are updated regularly with trades and obviously issues(comics).

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Posted by FoxxFireArt

@Deranged Midget:

A good test of that is to go into your local bookstore and see what has a larger section, manga or comic trade paperbacks. All the bookstores in my area of Northern Kentucky have several 6 ft. tall cases filled with manga, but maybe two cases for comic trades. Often those trades aren't even up to date. The only up to date SPIDER-MAN trade I saw last time was OMD. Though, I guess that could also just mean no one wants to buy that one. You can also find manga in public libraries.

@Haaydrian:

I don't see why they wouldn't want to expand. It only seems like a positive to grow your community by expanding it. There is a manga audience in the US that they aren't even scratching. You don't grow your community by holding up in your own clique and only including people who look, think, and act like yourself.

It would be like Giant Bomb saying they aren't going to cover Wii games. Sure, they aren't as hard core as the XBox 360 or PS3 titles, but they're still games.

Posted by Deranged Midget

Depends on the demand of Manga.

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Posted by Strider92

@PikminMania said:

No. That's what Animevice is for. Plain and simple.

This

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@PikminMania said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@PikminMania

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@FoxxFireArt said:

@PikminMania@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek Well now, I can see at least two people didn't make it past the first paragrapgh before commenting.

Oh I read it all right.

I'm just staying. There isn't a purpose for it if there is Anime Vice.

This

So there is no need for Comic Vine because of CBR and IGN right?

The difference is that CBR and IGN are from different companies. It would be like if the DS (Comic Vine) started competing with the Wii (Animevice) for most wii games. It makes no sense, since the Wii was solely made to make wii games and the DS was made to make DS games.

Why would the same business try to outdo each other.

Um Comic Vine and Anime Vice are owned by two completely different company's, there not even slightly connected 
Posted by PikminMania

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@PikminMania

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@FoxxFireArt said:

@PikminMania@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek Well now, I can see at least two people didn't make it past the first paragrapgh before commenting.

Oh I read it all right.

I'm just staying. There isn't a purpose for it if there is Anime Vice.

This

So there is no need for Comic Vine because of CBR and IGN right?

The difference is that CBR and IGN are from different companies. It would be like if the DS (Comic Vine) started competing with the Wii (Animevice) for most wii games. It makes no sense, since the Wii was solely made to make wii games and the DS was made to make DS games.

Why would the same business try to outdo each other.

Posted by Cavemold

Bleeding cool , newsrama do the best job at covering comic news. Cbr has it forums that's about it . Comicvine has it's podcast and videos.

Posted by Haaydrian

@FoxxFireArt said:

@Haaydrian said:

@FoxxFireArt: How would the person in question go about doing this? I've only gone to AV a couple of times. I know that they review weeklies, but do they do more than that?

Well, I hadn't thought too deeply into the details since I don't work for the site. I was just thinking up a concept and raising the question. I was mainly thinking about having a more freelance writer, in the image of Mat (Inferiorego), posting a review ever month or for some of the bigger series and some reviews of others. Only really focused on the official US releases. Though, I feel it needs to be someone who's already familiar with these series.

I think that CV either should expand fully into the market, or not.

Posted by Rumble Man

The other site died when Gia Manry and John Martone are laid off

so have a go

Posted by InnerVenom123

@PikminMania said:

No. That's what Animevice is for. Plain and simple.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@PikminMania

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@FoxxFireArt said:

@PikminMania@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek Well now, I can see at least two people didn't make it past the first paragrapgh before commenting.

Oh I read it all right.

I'm just staying. There isn't a purpose for it if there is Anime Vice.

This

So there is no need for Comic Vine because of CBR and IGN right?
Posted by FoxxFireArt

From reading some of the comments. It's very obvious who were the people who didn't even read the article before commenting. They probably just read the title, commented, then left.

@Haaydrian said:

@FoxxFireArt: How would the person in question go about doing this? I've only gone to AV a couple of times. I know that they review weeklies, but do they do more than that?

Well, I hadn't thought too deeply into the details since I don't work for the site. I was just thinking up a concept and raising the question. I was mainly thinking about having a more freelance writer, in the image of Mat (Inferiorego), posting a review ever month or for some of the bigger series and some reviews of others. Only really focused on the official US releases. Though, I feel it needs to be someone who's already familiar with these series.

@pikahyper:

I don't see why having a freelance staff writer posting reviews for manga wouldn't work? I'm not talking about the current staff trying to take that on along with their other duties.

You want to grow the manga database here, and you didn't even talk to me? Dude, I have 918,000 points on AV. Ethan (RedLamp) also had me create the wiki style guide of Anime Vice.

@RedheadedAtrocitus:

Thanks for being open to the idea.

@Twentyfive:

That's the very sense of tribalism I was speaking to in my article. It doesn't make any sense to segregate manga from comics. I read and enjoy both.

Posted by SmoothJammin

Yea. Do it.

Posted by PikminMania

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@FoxxFireArt said:

@PikminMania @YourNeighborhoodComicGeek Well now, I can see at least two people didn't make it past the first paragrapgh before commenting.

Oh I read it all right.

I'm just staying. There isn't a purpose for it if there is Anime Vice.

This

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@jloneblackheart said:

I always thought we should focus on manga as well. I always added and spotlighted them in the new releases. Now with AV not associated with us, I think it would be a good idea. There's no reason to think of manga and comics as separate.

Exactly and there doesn't have to be a "manga section" or anything, they just need to be spotlighted a bit more with reviews and 3min experts and the like.
Posted by Cavemold

Meh , they barley have time to cover most dc/marvel/etc books. So get in line Basically. They need add more staff or pick few people to headline reviews , and news. They miss a lot of comic news.

Posted by jloneblackheart

I always thought we should focus on manga as well. I always added and spotlighted them in the new releases. Now with AV not associated with us, I think it would be a good idea. There's no reason to think of manga and comics as separate.

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Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

I'd like more manga

Posted by pikahyper

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: not really lost, three got bought by one company and two by another, I dunno the politics of how the sites were chosen though, I think GB was headhunted first and that was all they wanted, Braum wanted the platform and Tested and Screened to bring in to their media family and CV and AV were just left floating and unwanted so Braum picked up AV (I think cause they had more staff crossover) and CBSi picked up CV (probably cause Dave of GB and G-Man built CV together). I think CV could have survived independently, wouldn't have been easy though.

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Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@pikahyper: @Jonny_Anonymous: Hmm.. I guess so. I didn't know Anime Vice was actually competition now. In that case that would be a good thing to have an Anime/Manga section. However, I don't know how so many Whiskey Media websites were lost.

Posted by pikahyper

@Jonny_Anonymous: people tend to forget AV is the competition now :P and now that Screened and AV are gone I really wish CV would embrace more media and make this a super site and expand the wiki and add new types for movies, tv shows, cartoons, anime, books. Cover more stuff bring in more money get more staff and just keep growing.

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Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@pikahyper said:

@Jonny_Anonymous: by the time I'm done CV will have way more manga then AV, we might already with as much as I've been adding, I see no reason not to use the Whiskey split as an opportunity to improve CV and one of the ways I've been doing that is adding manga and foreign comics in the thousands. Eventually I'll be recruiting writers to improve on the manga character/creator pages and hopefully story arcs.

Also having it here does encourage users, when I started adding foreign comics long time foreign users started coming out of their shells and adding their local comics cause they didn't know they were allowed to, I've started seeing it with manga too and it is awesome.

that sounds awesome to me 
Posted by pikahyper

@Jonny_Anonymous: by the time I'm done CV will have way more manga then AV, we might already with as much as I've been adding, I see no reason not to use the Whiskey split as an opportunity to improve CV and one of the ways I've been doing that is adding manga and foreign comics in the thousands. Eventually I'll be recruiting writers to improve on the manga character/creator pages and hopefully story arcs.

Also having it here does encourage users, when I started adding foreign comics long time foreign users started coming out of their shells and adding their local comics cause they didn't know they were allowed to, I've started seeing it with manga too and it is awesome.

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Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: that's like saying there isn't a need for Comic Vine because there is CBR or IGN

That's different. Those are completely different websites. Anime Vice used to be a part of Whiskey Media, but it still has the exact same interface, and has some of the Comic Vine users on it as well.

I see no reason for them to use extra time and resources to make an Anime Section in the website if there is already a huge independent website dedicated to it.

and Anime Vice and Comic Vine are totally independent. The CV's interface is getting remodelled in the next few weeks also. There wouldn't be an "anime section" (largely because anime are cartoons) nor a manga section, they just wouldn't draw a line between manga and comics as there one and the same. Having more coverage on manga would bring more users and encourage some current users to be more active.
Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: that's like saying there isn't a need for Comic Vine because there is CBR or IGN

That's different. Those are completely different websites. Anime Vice used to be a part of Whiskey Media, but it still has the exact same interface, and has some of the Comic Vine users on it as well.

I see no reason for them to use extra time and resources to make an Anime Section in the website if there is already a huge independent website dedicated to it.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: that's like saying there isn't a need for Comic Vine because there is CBR or IGN
Posted by Twentyfive

Yikes. I'm no big fan of manga, but I'm not narrow-minded. The reception from an honest, well intended post is just sad to me. There are lots of things people on this site don't like, but that shouldn't stop the users from writing reviews in their blog sections.

Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus

I think the thought is a nice one even if I've never been much for manga myself. I think you should be applauded for your appeal though. Thumbs up!

Posted by CrimsonAvenger

Since the Whiskey Media family of sites is no more then I say yes I would like to see one. I've always felt ComicVine could use more staff (especially in comparison to Giant Bomb) and I don't think having someone to review Manga would be a bad idea.

Posted by pikahyper

a staff reviewer doubtful, something else though maybe, I've got ideas.

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Posted by Blood1991

We would be stealing Animevice's thunder "Our guys would totally out review them". This would be more up to the staff here if they wanted to also cover manga. I wouldn't be opposed I like manga, but they don't review every comics series out right now and many users are strictly western comics. You could always group together some users who would like to and start a monthly Manga review or something on those lines I'd like to hear about some series. Also I like your initiative.

Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@FoxxFireArt said:

@PikminMania @YourNeighborhoodComicGeek Well now, I can see at least two people didn't make it past the first paragrapgh before commenting.

Oh I read it all right.

I'm just staying. There isn't a purpose for it if there is Anime Vice.

Posted by Haaydrian

@FoxxFireArt: How would the person in question go about doing this? I've only gone to AV a couple of times. I know that they review weeklies, but do they do more than that?

Posted by NlGHTCRAWLER

@FoxxFireArt: Even though they aren't associated, it's still there.

Posted by FoxxFireArt
@PikminMania @YourNeighborhoodComicGeek Well now, I can see at least two people didn't make it past the first paragrapgh before commenting.
Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

No. That doesn't fit in Comic Vine.

^ That's where it belongs.

Posted by Mercy_

I have no interest in it at all.

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Posted by PikminMania

No. That's what Animevice is for. Plain and simple.