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Posted by JohnnyZ256

Banned thread ideas should not be bumped.

Posted by spartanpgh

Dark Phoenix, King Hyperion, Psi Lord, Franklin Richards (616), HOM Wanda, Genis Vell, Jamie Braddock, Mad Jim Jaspers.

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Posted by Shot

Bob Agent Of Hydra

Posted by lol

LT, Lucifer, Michael, COIE AM, Nemesis, Ultimator, COIE Spectre, The Endless

Posted by NeonGameWave

@neongamewave: When did Omega Shenron warp reality?!?!?

With the Shadow Dragon Balls he would be able to warp reality and it was a dark magic or form of reality warping that corrupted the Dragon Balls due to extensive usage.

Posted by Bronze_Surfer
Posted by NeonGameWave

@neongamewave: But none of those guys have never fought someone like the Living Tribunal before.

Also Infinity Gauntlet >>>>>>>> Chaos Emeralds and the Living Tribunal disarmed it like it was nothing and I have be come more powerful then the Living Tribunal.

SSJ4 Gogeta curbstomped Omega Shenron who was a universal threat and Omega could reality warp, destroy galaxies and he had enough power to destroy the universe, Dark Schneider has fought many heavy hitters as well such as Uriel, some of them might not have fought Living Tribunal type characters before but it doesn`t mean they are helpless or useless within the fight they can still contribute with their unique gifts and abilities.

Not really. Sonic in his Super Form was powerful enough to contend with Solaris a being who consumed dimensions, is omnipresent and at full power could serve as a threat to universes or beyond within his Super Form he can also reality warp, all of these characters together as a team should triumphant or succeed.

Posted by Betatesthighlander1

Edited by JackKnight

@neongamewave: But none of those guys have never fought someone like the Living Tribunal before.

Also Infinity Gauntlet >>>>>>>> Chaos Emeralds and the Living Tribunal disarmed it like it was nothing and I have be come more powerful then the Living Tribunal.

Posted by NeonGameWave

@neongamewave: The only guys on your team that I can see poseing a threat to me are Kirby and God Spawn.

The rest are f**ked big time!

Not really. Dark Schneider can use Dispel Bound which is thousands of shields that protect him from pretty much all types of assault or incoming danger. SSJ4 Gogeta probably at full power is universal level in power or more and he moves millions of times FTL also he can create copies of himself magic or reality warping don`t really pose as a threat to him as they do not create any scenario where he is threatened or affected, Super Sonic is pretty much Invincible with all of the Chaos Emeralds, the others would probably have a lot more difficulty.

Posted by JackKnight

@neongamewave: The only guys on your team that I can see poseing a threat to me are Kirby and God Spawn.

The rest are f**ked big time!

Posted by Esquire
Posted by NeonGameWave

Posted by JackKnight

@kingjohnrocks: Yeah Q could by your team sometime.

And you are right The Living Tribunal is second to TOAA orthough that still doesn't mean hes unbeatable.

There are guys how have become more powerful then The Living Tribunal before and I think you know which guys I'm talking about.

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@jackknight: Yeah, he is powerful. Sadly the staff was stolen.

I don't think Q can take on the LT, either, but he could buy my team some time.

The Living Tribunal is second to TOAA.

Posted by JackKnight

@kingjohnrocks: WoW! now that sound like an awesome and powerful character :)

Sadly I don't think him or Q can take on someone who is a few levels more powerful then the Living Tribunal.

And the Living Tribunal is how powerful again?

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@jackknight: Q has destroyed universes.

Best feat? He has multiple. Contributing in the destruction of a region:

And having a Staff that can slay immortal gods.

Read about it here.

Since it is an elder artefact, it can kill the Elder gods who created the universe of Runescape. So yeah, he should stomp..

Posted by JackKnight

@kingjohnrocks: Whats Armadyl's best feat?

Also Q wount be able to simply bring back the reality that has been warped, not if I kill him first.

Edited by Kingjohnrocks

@jackknight: Armadyl, god of Justice.

Plus, Q can simply bring back the reality that has been warped, which is why he's here.

Posted by JackKnight

@kingjohnrocks: Not if you can warp reality or destroy the universe or planet that there in or on.

I was wondering who the bird thing was, who is he?

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@jackknight: Do you even know who the bird man is?
Also, Atom Ant and Mighty Mouse are too fast for anyone to catch them.

Posted by JackKnight

@kingjohnrocks: Well regardless, I don't really see your team winning here (unless they find some way of tricking me), the only guy in your team that I can see standing a chance is Q but even he gets stomped.

Posted by Kingjohnrocks

@jackknight: Mighty Mouse isn't toonforce. He is Superman re-incarnated into a mouse. Atom Ant isn't toonforce..He's simply..Amazing. He can pick up skyscrapers and tanks at the same time with his pinky and not even feel strain. He once even catched the Moon.

Neutron isn't toonforce. His knowledge of Science makes his possibilities for defeating this more possible.

Secret Squirrel is a guy who can go into disguise and create nifty gadgets and machines.

No toonforce here.

Posted by JackKnight
Posted by Kingjohnrocks

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Posted by AllStarSuperman

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@beatboks1: That was not the Living Tribunal in that issue! that was Eternity!

I think you sometimes get mixed up between both Eternity and the Living Tribunal.

This is Eternity:


And this is the Living Tribunal:


Also how the hell does destroying a Moon depower god?

I know that theres a talk going around about if the Presence is omnipotent or not but still even if the Presence isn't omnipotent destroying the moon still shouldn't depower him! (unless hes just a solar system scale being which he is not!).

Posted by beatboks1

@beatboks1: Ok! besides destroying a universe with but a thought what other feats does he have? I don't think Infinte man was even on COIE Anti-Monitor's level let alone the Living Tribunal!!!!!!

He could have destroyed universe and all it's alternate time lines ( i.e. aternate Earths etc) with but a thought in less than 5.8 seconds. Infinite man only made one single appearance in the story I mentioned in LoSH pre COIE. Before the upgrade 30th Century Mordru could solo the combined Silver age JLA, JSA and LoSH. In fact from the 30th century he sent his astral projection to the 20th Century with but a fraction of his power and soloed the SA JLA and JSA. Before you say anything about pre COIE ot being canon, the LoSH retained it's pre COIE continuity intact.

The point I'm making is that Mordu has been shown to be able to absorb any power at any level. He absorbed ALL the magic in the universe. In this instance he would simply drain your character of the LT energy he'd absorbed and drain what he was taking from TOAA and from Presence. No matter how powerful you guy is Mordru would become his match or better.

Which issue of the Defenders was it where Dormammu defeated the Living Tribunal? because I refuse to believe that Dormammu defeated the Living Tribunal and even if he did then it was bullshit writting and PIS!

Issue 92 first run. Dorm's absorbed LT's power.

As for Classic Dr Strange, he was never stated to be any where near the power of the Living Tribunal, all that really happen was that the Living Tribunal going to kill Dr Strange but then he decided not to, Also just because you have powers that even impresses the Living Tribunal dosen't mean that you in the same league as the Living Tribunal.

I'm fully aware of what happened. The thing is Classic Fate was Classic Stranges equal in power ( slightly behind in magic but when you add his physical powers and energy manipulation powers definitely equal). He powered up by absorbing energy from TWO Green lanterns and a NON powered up 30th Century Mordru one shotted him. Took him out as though he were nothing.

Also Alan Scott with the starheart could defeat the Presence? that I definatly refuse to believe!!!!!! I can believe that he could defeat the Spectre but no way the Presence! if that whole thing you said about Alan Scott with the starheart could defeat the Presence is true then it was about as bullsh*t was Swamp Thing as God Thing becoming as powerful as the Presence!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never said that Alan Scot did it, I said that Eclipso did it because he took the starheart from Alan. Now I've chosen Alan when possessed by the starheart at which level he soloed all heroes on Earth. At the end of Justice Society just before Flashpoint Alan casually destroyed a god who had absorbed the power of all the heroes at monument point ( and there were a LOT).

Using the power of the starheart Eclipso destroyed the moon to cut of the power of the presence by severing his connection to all souls and that made him die.

It's a canon feat and not the first time the presence has had problems like this. Consistency means it can't be PIS.

Edited by JackKnight

@beatboks1: Ok! besides destroying a universe with but a thought what other feats does he have? I don't think Infinte man was even on COIE Anti-Monitor's level let alone the Living Tribunal!!!!!!

Which issue of the Defenders was it where Dormammu defeated the Living Tribunal? because I refuse to believe that Dormammu defeated the Living Tribunal and even if he did then it was bullsh*t writting and PIS!

As for Classic Dr Strange, he was never stated to be any where near the power of the Living Tribunal, all that really happen was that the Living Tribunal going to kill Dr Strange but then he decided not to, Also just because you have powers that even impresses the Living Tribunal dosen't mean that you in the same league as the Living Tribunal.

Also Alan Scott with the starheart could defeat the Presence? that I definatly refuse to believe!!!!!! I can believe that he could defeat the Spectre but no way the Presence! if that whole thing you said about Alan Scott with the starheart could defeat the Presence is true then it was about as bullsh*t was Swamp Thing as God Thing becoming as powerful as the Presence!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by beatboks1

Infinte man was created to be the most powrful being in the multiverse ( obviously under the presence) how is that any different to what you said. Brainiac 5 said that with that level of power he could destroy universes ( as in plural) with a thought . you asked if je was Classic strange level ( who we all know brile the bonds of LT) and I told you he had one shotted a powered up DC equal to Classic Strange without the power up I 've given him here. the power of my second player ( starheart Alan) has been used by another to destroy the Spectre and defeat the Presence

Dormammu has already defeated the LT once in Defenders .

I've picked three characters who have defeated either more powerful beings than the one with the object you've created or defeated beings who's power your trying to absorb. I fail to see how I have a problem here.

Posted by JackKnight
Posted by Schmalzel

Fully Powered Galactus takes this on his own.

Posted by JackKnight

@beatboks1: Um no The Living Tribunal isn't the embodiment of everything in Marvel your thinking of Multi-Eternity.

The Living Tribunal is the judge of everything in the Marvel omniverse thats why it has only been stated to be only one Living Tribunal and no other versions.

The Living Tribunal may not be omnipotent but he is consider the second most powerful character in the Marvel omniverse with the exception of both Pre-Recton Beyonder & Molecule Man, Protege and anyone with the HOTU.

Posted by beatboks1

Infinite man was the embodiment of everything that was, the entire DC universe just like LT is to marvel.

As for him being anything like classic strange , are you kidding? non powered up 30th century Mordru one shotted Classic Dr Fate ( basically that's like classic Strange + Superman+ Captain Atom) AFTER he had absorbed power from both SA Hal Jordan and Alan Scot to power up. the mordu I talking about was far more powerful than that. As I said Brainiac said he could destroy the multiverse with a thought.

Alan scot fully starheart possessed is a dimensional entity. when Eclipso took the starheart from him temporarily he ised it'ts power to kil the spectre and the presence. when Alan fot the power back both were reversed. so if it's power can cut off the power of the presence And kill the DC's equivilent to LT I don't really see him having a problem here, do you

Dorm's defeated LT in Defenders

Posted by JackKnight

@bossmonster: No he does not!

@progenitor: What exactly is your team going to do? I did say I have becomed more powerful then the Living Tribunal.

Posted by JackKnight

@beatboks1: No God from the Preacher universe was not omnipotent (no where near infact) he feard Genesis and when he left his throne he wasn't as powerful.

even Saint of Killers said

And when Saint of Killers killed him he wasn't sitting on his throne so I would stomp Saint of Killers.

As for both the Doctor and Dr Doom.

Even with the power of the Tardis the Doctor would still loose, I made a thread with the Doctor (with the power of the Tardis) vs The Endless and the Endless won very easily and the Living Tribunal is way more powerful then the Endless.

heres a link to the thread:

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/jackknight/blog/the-doctor-absorbed-the-time-vortex-vs-the-endless/90754/

As for Dr Doom, the whole thing with him absorbing the Beyonders in Secret Wars was bullsh*t and nothing but PIS! (one of the few bad parts of Secret Wars) there was no reason to believe that the Beyonder could of erased Dr Doom from existance with but a thought (Unless the Beyonder wanted him to do it).

As for the people you picked? they would all loose

How was Infinite Man a DC version of the Living Tribunal? the only thing that was similer between both Infinite Man and the Living Tribunal was there looks.

Was Mordru on par with Classic Dr Strange or nabby someone more powerful like Lucifer Morningstar? if so he still looses

What are Alan Scott and Trigon going to do?

When did Dormammu defeat the Living Tribunal?

Posted by progenitor

Albert Wesker w/Cosmic Cube.

Namor (Phoenix Force).

Larfleeze (Classic).

Monsoon w/Time Gem (MGS:R).

Magneto w/Power Gem (Age of Apocalypse).

Onslaught.

Superboy Prime.

Exodus w/Mind Gem.

;)

Posted by Bossmonster

JLA Amazo Solo's

Posted by beatboks1

As for who I choose, 30 Century Mordru.

He was able to absorb the power of Infinite Man ( a DC knock off of LT ) and had absorbed all magic in the DCU universe. As such could according to Brainiac 5 have destroyed universes with but a thought.

combined with Alan Scot ( full starheart, blood lusted)

Trigon

and

Dormammu ( he's already absorbed the LT's power and defeated him once).

Edited by beatboks1

@diredrill: They would both loose, the God from Saint of Killers's universe was much! MUCH! weaker then the Living Tribunal and I have become more powerful then the Living Tribunal.

@izbighulk: All but Molecule Man (if your using the Pre-Recton version which you should not be!!!) would loose.

I did say I have becomed more powerful then the Living Tribunal and how powerful is he again?

The god of SOK was stated to be truly Omnipotent in his universe, as such he is above LT since LT can't be "omnipotent" as there is one above him ( TOAA). It was also stated repeatedly that his guns can kill the omnipotent.

izabighulk's team included the Doctor and Doom. The doctor can simply open the eye of the Tardis which can and all existence ( the Doctor Who tellie movie of the 90's) or look into the eye that makes him omnipotent ( so TOAA or Presence level) and he doesn't have a time constraint. Even if he did it makes it a stalemate. It doesn't matter that you've added TOAA and presence together as you still only get the same level of power as you get from one of them. Omnipotent means ALL powerful or power that is without limit. infinite. If the power of each is infinite that the two combined is still only infinite, just like the Doctor after looking into the eye would be.

The Doom part, let's not forget that he wears tech that allows him to absorb power, using this he has absorbed the power of pre-retcon Beyonder (>= LT). So while your "character" is absorbing TOAA he's also being absorbed.

Edited by Bossmoss4l

Scathon the Approver dissaproves of you weilding this, it appears in his hand and he beats you over the head with it

Posted by JackKnight

@oceanmaster21: Unless the Anti Life Equation can work on someone alittle bit more powerful then the Living Tribunal your team would get stomped.

Posted by JackKnight

@izbighulk: There is no way to create an anti-version of the HOTU, The HOTU is an object that has all the powers of TOAA literally who ever uses it is pretty much God so if you can beat someone with the HOTU then your probably on par if not greater then God himself.

Anyways were not talking about the HOTU so lets get back to busisness!

It doesn't matter if Amazo has all of the other teams powers and make it like I'm fighting two teams that once I would still win, I have become more powerful then the Living tribunal you know and think about how powerful he is and what he has done.

Besides I could also copy your teams powers aswell but to make this thread fair I'm staying that the level I am on.

Though if I'm honest your team powering up Molecule Man to become more powerful then the Living Tribunal could possible beat me or it will be a stalemate.

Edited by oceanmaster21

Trigon

Odin

franklin Richards

superman one million

darkseid with anti life equation

Gabriel

Posted by izbighulk

@izbighulk: It does matter if you have a device that can pick a future where your team wins.

And The Living Tribunal has the power to existe in all realitys and he is only second to TOAA in terms of power (unless you count both Pre-Recton Beyonder and Molecule Man)

no weapon or object can kill or defeat the Living Tribunal regardless if you have Mr Fantastic, Batman and Doctor Who on my team.

The only object that can defeat the Living Tribunal is the Heart of the Universe but your not alowd to use it so your team has no chance from what I can tell.

There always more options to limit yourself to just one is to give up and yes it does matter if i have them on my team anyway i dont see an obstacle that would stop them from making a anti version of the Heart of the Universe whit prep my team wins and as I have already sad whit Amazo its like fighting two teams at once. And you forgot that Classic Dr Strange has beaten Shuma Gorath and Dormammu so he could help. Or the team could just power up MM.

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